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22. March 2003, 19:46:23
Dmitri King 
Subject: an attempt to cool things off, and get back to the issue
TTjazzberry-- IF you wish to start over, I can do that. We can have a clean slate, no insults, just discussion. Same with you NightHawk. If you guys call me by my right name and do not imply that I do not know the definition of an easy word such as "default," I will also refrain from the put downs. In general, people respond with insults only when faced with them. I don't know who started it and I am not sure anyone cares. It isn't important.

The focus of my posts is that I would like to see a separate column on the ratings leaders board showing the percentage of games played as player 1. I think this is a useful tool that adds to the ratings, becaue the rating alone does not give the full picture in a game like pente, keryo pente, or chess.

I realize not everyone is as serious about their gaming as I am, and I do not hold it against them. But, I also do not understand why anyone would object to having this extra column on the leaders page. A lot of people do care about the ratings--Striving to be the best pente player is a goal for me, and I think a lot of people want to be the best at something, so I would guess I am not alone. I realize that any system that has ratings will have ratings cheats, but why not take a small step to hinder their efforts?

Regarding those who post many games only as black: TTJazzberry and NIghtHawk are absolutely rightwhan they say that if it bothers me I do not have to play them. But, my point was, they are fully aware of what they are doing, and so it should not bother them if I call them out on the brainKing general focus board about it. I am not saying they should be banned from the site or punished in any way, but I see nothing wrong in my noting that some people are doing this, especially in a game where being black is a disadvantage.

Now, I think we can all discuss these matters civilly. I will tone down my speech so that we can do so, as that is the point on this board.

Last, I just want to clear up a misconception that may exist as a result of some of what has been said--when I play pente I am very polite and gracious, completely unlike the pompous arrogant ass I was called. I discuss strategy with my opponents and I always answer their game related questions. I help people improve their game any time they ask. I have always reinstated timed out games and granted an undo request at DSG.

I may lose my temper on these message boards and engage in petty squabbles (which we are ALL guilty of), but I always exhibit gamesmanship and sportsmanship when I play games with people.

Again-- I am not trying to put anyone down, I am just saying that certain frauds do not deserve their place atop the leader boards, and they know who they are.

22. March 2003, 20:39:07
CleverHunk 
Subject: Re: an attempt to cool things off, and get back to the issue
god dmitri,REALLY no offense.but if you were"serious about games".you (and others,like dummyshmuck & blazeinwhore)might begin by showing some consideration for the other players here by taking this dysfunctional flirtation/abuse you & TTdizzyberry have to some adolescent teen chat room somewhere.this used to be an informative board"GAME RELATED"(comprendez vous?").this sounds like a bunch of childish verbal diarreah that goes on & on & says nothing(it's so depressing,cause you are reminded that in some heads,what little there is is a write-off).so many of the long posts her lately have been like that.I KNOW for a F.A.C.T. most non-newbie players are geting tired of this lame stuff.no need to response,more of the same would be of no value,just please,take it to a chatroom..you guys can babble on for page after page,show some descency,please.

listen,maybe I can REALLY help:
all servers(games,website,email,matchmakers,etc),for each catagory of server,they all have features we like/don't like:
why argue over who likes which site/who cares,personal choice.
no need to explain why you do/don tlike a site..we know the diffs newbie,been around.,,duh
If you seek a server to sign up & use.
1st-learn how to use boolian logic effectively(a suggestion,can get by without it maybe)
2nd-do a search for [server type] AND features AND reviews.

22. March 2003, 22:21:07
Dmitri King 
Subject: Re: an attempt to cool things off, and get back to the issue
Clever Hunk, you responded to my post entitled "an attempt to cool things off." I am sorry if you did not feel it was effective in doing so. TTJazzberry and I have agreed to cool it and remove the earlier nasty posts from the board. I will do the same with my posts to NightHawk.

I don't think this means we should stop talking about things altogether, just that we do so in a civil manner.

I apologize for escalating the situation.

22. March 2003, 22:30:15
TTjazzberry 
Subject: Re: an attempt to cool things off, and get back to the issue
Apologies here too, as for Danos..well cant help but to call a spade a spade. Again sorry Dmitri.

24. March 2003, 04:44:37
CleverHunk 
Subject: Re: an attempt to cool things off, and get back to the issue
I owe TTjazzberry,danochek & blaznshore an apology for name calling,it's not my style.I'm sorry.at the time I had for the 2nd time..spent a lot of time reading the the "recent new 60" or so posts..only to find it wasted my time,I learned nothing.I'm usually very even tempered,but this pissed me off..ok,enough said.

24. March 2003, 05:07:40
TTjazzberry 
Subject: Re: an attempt to cool things off, and get back to the issue
No prob CleverHunk, apology accepted as I hope mine was. Nighthawk, Dmitri and myself all posted similar regrets and apologies in a genuine attempt to get over it, make ammends and show a little class and decency after a heated exchange. I ask again, perhaps Danos will swallow a little pride and follow suit if getting over it is on his agenda as well? I leave it in your court.

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