Czuch: You have proved nothing Czuch. And I didn't say cheaper was better, just that the point was effectiveness re cost. Eg.. years ago I needed a prescription, the chemist told me it was cheaper to buy it over the counter then via the flat rate prescription cost. So I bought it over the counter.

The USA per citizen pays too much for health coverage, it needs sorting. I think virtually everyone can agree on that point.

Now ... how to sort it. The plans your gov are looking at include everyone paying their bit as well as other systems.

What Art is missing is that the USA have the ability to look at various systems and (if politicians use their brains and not their parties) sort out the basis for a system that will be cheaper to run. Despite Art's saying "it'll cost too much".. your current system already does, as their is an element of companies taking the mickey over what you pay in private health insurance.

Now... If you had a situation to change things so efficient spending was the secondary protocol to Hippocratic Oath.. what would you do?