Czuch: You read my post wrong. I said the opposite. I'm all for revolution if necessary if the government goes to far. Several have gone on in the past by popular movement because those at the top didn't give a damn, except about themselves.

Not entrust, empower. Give the people the ability back that has been diminished by those with personal agenda's or fears that misused the tribe instinct to fill their own void with the false pretence that they are right.

And FYI I'm for less government intrusion, certain matters fine. But excuses are being made here in the UK to introduce more, rather then facing the truth.

... Actually some politicians recognise the truth, but others like spending!!

We've lived with propaganda for so many years... telling us "them" or "it", when if the people had actually the chance from both sides to sit down with a few beers and talk maybe we would have an "we".