Artful Dodger: Then you'd need a near neutral show. According to you that is not possible in the USA. I see Fox news (and friends) complaining about Obama right now about freedom of speech, but where were their complaints when Bush was having protesters escorted to zones where the TV audience would not see them during him going 'walkabout' and trying to have many arrested on bogus charges.

Some may not like the BBC and it's license fee, but it's a neutral company by it's charter. The fee pays for countless free local radio stations as well as TV without advertising. Nothing Murdoch owns can be said to be the same.

As to Griffin.. the only point he had was that the immigration system as such is not doing it's job. Not enough money has been put into the system to deal with the problems that have arisen. I was dismayed that the Labour panellist tried to act all innocent on this. I'd rather have an honest politician say mistakes were made then one say all is fine.

And what problems in London are you talking about re the Islamic community.. My watch of the news has not been as great recently. But I've heard of no big riots.