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28. February 2009, 05:16:08 Subject: Earmarks that don't exist: Modified by Papa Zoom (28. February 2009, 05:17:34)  Obama says that the government must sacrifice some worthy priority for which there are no dollars. Fine. But what they say is one thing. Right after that he proposes additional spending (money we don't have) for the cure of Cancer. Double speak. National Health Care reform can't wait? Until we have the money? How many trillions in debt does this guy think we can't make before he ruins the country? Obama is getting a new fleet of new helicopters. Hmmmm, 11.2 Billion dollars. Yeah, like one isn't enough. But the topper is when he said he "is proud that we passed a recovery plan that is free of earmarks." Really? He's either lying or he's stupid. Neither choice is good. There's language in this "recovery package" that requires the Transportation Security Administration to buy 100,000 uniforms from U.S. apparel makers (more that three million of tax dollars). That's an earmark folks. Three billion in extra transit money. Another earmark. Fifty million for habitat restoration in the San Francisco Bay area. Another earmark. 1.2 million for products from these companies: General Electric, L-3 Communications and Reveal Imaging Technologies. (Msnbc.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal, which is a GE company.) Earmarks. There's the 189 million provision for Filipino World War II vets, most of which don't live in the US. Another earmark. This is supposed to be emergency legislation. So what's up with the 2 billion for battery research? Emergency legislation? Maybe Obama is just redefining earmarks. Kinda like Clinton did with "is." There 800 million for carbon capture projects. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. It's a duck. That's just a start. It's pork, no matter what. 200 thousand dollars for tattoo removal? Seriously, if that's not an earmark, what is it? Nothing surprises me anymore. Change we can believe in? All we'll have left is change in our pockets and it won't be that much. 28. February 2009, 05:25:24 Subject: Re: Earmarks that don't exist: Artful Dodger: 200 thousand dollars for tattoo removal? What??? Are you an idiot??? Cant you see that money spent on tattoo removal will only help the economy???  28. February 2009, 05:30:34 Subject: 200 thousand dollars for tattoo removal? Czuch:Yeah, what could I be thinking. All those tattoo stores will bring in money (yours and mine)to pay for removal of tattoos from people too stupid to realize that tattoos are permanent. Hmmm. That sounds fair. Houston just tried to pass a bill where they would use tax dollars to help elevate credit card debt for those that have over spent. It was killed but the dems tried to sneak it past the people. The Republicans rallied and killed that stupid bill. I don't have any credit card bills because I always pay it off. Why should I help out some moron who maxed out ten cards? Democrats again. 28. February 2009, 05:48:32 Subject: Re: 200 thousand dollars for tattoo removal? Artful Dodger: Democrats again. They beg you to be irresponsible and stupid... then they can give you a hand out from someone who wasnt irresponsible and stupid, and then you will vote for them because they helped you, but they dont tell any one that they were only able to help you because there are actually some people in this world who are responsible, and without these responsible people there would be no money to help you be irresponsible, unless your name is Usurper, and he would tell you that all we have to do if nobody is responsible and productive, is to print more money, so dont worry we can still give you money for being irresposible and stupid anyway.... so dont worry, Bam is on your side  28. February 2009, 07:15:39 Subject: They beg you to be irresponsible and stupid... then they can give you a hand out from someone who wasnt irresponsible and stupid Czuch:That's right. Reward irresponsibility. That's the way they have always rolled. 28. February 2009, 14:10:24 Subject: Re: 200 thousand dollars for tattoo removal? Artful Dodger: Tattoos can be removed.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic7X8LKADsg Watch the video.  28. February 2009, 18:44:58 Subject: Re: 200 thousand dollars for tattoo removal? (V):I know they can be removed. Why should the government pay for it? Just another example of rewarding irresponsible people when they do stupid things. 28. February 2009, 14:07:48 Subject: Re: Earmarks that don't exist: Artful Dodger: And Bush did what to the national debt? Spending billions and billions on a war that shouldn't have taken place.. at least maybe not in the form taken... If had thought, they could have done a sneaky war, which would have cost less in money and lives. And what about some of those people who got contracts to rebuild Iraq, hasn't there been investigations into some over basically ripping off the American Government aka The USA population? You don't reward those who fought along side you in WWII... that's disgraceful. 28. February 2009, 18:43:46 Subject: You don't reward those who fought along side you in WWII... that's disgraceful. (V):You don't do so in an emergency economic stimulus package. That's moronic. 28. February 2009, 23:00:53 Subject: Re: You don't reward those who fought along side you in WWII... that's disgraceful. Artful Dodger: Perhaps your Pres is just doing the right thing now for those vets after them being ignored all this time. .. That's moronic?? As for the removal of tattoos.. Maybe it'll put some people in a better situation to get a good job, rather then being victimised for being 'kids'. Kids do do stupid things ya know, you must remember that. It's part of growing up.  28. February 2009, 23:05:05 Subject: Re: You don't reward those who fought along side you in WWII... that's disgraceful. (V): Yes, moronic. But you have twisted the meaning into another of your stawmen. So I won't waste my time explaining it again. 1. March 2009, 13:18:30 Subject: Re: Yes, moronic. But you have twisted the meaning into another of your stawmen. Artful Dodger: Not twisted anything..... Stated my opinion. Just as you stated your opinion about helping out Vets that fought in WWII. 1. March 2009, 18:15:25 Subject: Re: Yes, moronic. But you have twisted the meaning into another of your stawmen. (V):No, you twisted my words into meaning something I didn't say. And now you hide behind "stating my opinion" which is dishonest. I NEVER said it was moronic to honor vets. NEVER. You apparently are choosing to ignore the point of my post. Since I'm the one making the point, YOU don't get to decide what the purpose was. If you don't get it (and you don't) then ask for clarification. But even now you won't try to get clarity on what I said. You will simply excuse yourself from responsibility for your obvious misunderstanding. 1. March 2009, 18:45:56 Subject: Re: Yes, moronic. But you have twisted the meaning into another of your stawmen. Artful Dodger: You said it was moronic to do it as part of an emergency situation to boost the economy. .... From what I've read, the USA has never given the Vets a penny, and now your current Pres is correcting that mistake. Maybe he could have made it as part of a another bill or announcement but he didn't. So what? 1. March 2009, 18:48:13 Subject: Re:You said it was moronic to do it as part of an emergency situation to boost the economy. (V):Bingo. 1. March 2009, 03:25:13 Subject: Re: Earmarks that don't exist: Artful Dodger: If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. It's a duck. could be a goose tho..ya know,they are kind of similair ;) |
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