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26. March 2009, 02:32:11
Pedro Martínez 
Warning! Quote follows! Read at your own risk!

"The US economic policy is the road to hell."
(Mirek Topolánek, Czech Prime Minister and EU President)

Finally someone who said it loud.

26. March 2009, 02:33:42
Papa Zoom 
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Pedro Martínez: He's absolutely right too!

26. March 2009, 03:04:03
Czuch 
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Pedro Martínez: I have always liked that Czech PM... he isnt a big fan of the global warming scare tactics either, I dont think?

hahaha Now I might have one place I can like to move to if/when I dont like it here anymore (if they will take me)

26. March 2009, 03:20:26
Pedro Martínez 
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Czuch: That's not him, Chuck. :) The guy who's the avid fighter against the global warming hoax is Václav Klaus, the Czech President.

26. March 2009, 14:27:55
Czuch 
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Pedro Martínez: Thanks for that Pedro.... now I like your country even better than yesterday, do you have a bunk house for me to live for awhile?

26. March 2009, 23:31:27
Pedro Martínez 
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Czuch: Some bunkhouses are actually being built here for operators of the American anti-missile radar, the construction of which will soon begin as well, so I'm sure you'd be more than welcome there. If you insist on a bunkhouse, that is...:)))

26. March 2009, 23:38:58
Mort 
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Pedro Martínez: I don't see the point of an anti missile radar system, unless it is EMP proof. And technically to destroy a company.. or at least cripple it that it would collapse on itself... One high up EMP bomb will do the trick.

26. March 2009, 23:45:11
Pedro Martínez 
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(V): True, but I guess it would not be so easy to deliver such EMP bomb to the radar site.

26. March 2009, 23:47:59
Mort 
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Pedro Martínez: You don't need to. the whole idea of an EMP bomb is that it is detonated high up so the effect is as widespread as possible.

26. March 2009, 23:52:38
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
Modified by Pedro Martínez (26. March 2009, 23:56:37)
(V): Sure, but what I mean is that if the anti-missile system is efficient as it should be, the EMP bomb would not even come close. But I might be wrong in this, as I'm no "bomb expert". :)

27. March 2009, 06:53:22
Mort 
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Pedro Martínez: Tricky... As we are talking about taking out a missile at low orbit levels... maybe even higher. Plus if someone has sneaked one into a satellite.. then no anti missile system could stop it.

26. March 2009, 17:10:30
Mort 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
Pedro Martínez:

"The Czech EU Presidency rejected reports yesterday (25 March) that Prime Minister Mirek Topolánek had referred to US stimulus policy as the "way to hell", saying he had been misunderstood. ......... "No, he didn't say that," Czech Deputy Prime Minister Alexandr Vondra told a news conference after Topolánek's speech to the European Parliament on Wednesday (25 March).

...... A Czech presidency spokesman said Topolánek, speaking through an interpreter, had noted the United States was taking strong fiscal action to combat the economic crisis. Topolánek then said the European Union would be on the "way to hell" if it boosted its own fiscal spending, the spokesman said.

Blunder

The Czech EU presidency website published a summary of his statement, however, which sounds quite different from the original speech made at a European Parliament plenary session in Strasbourg.

Czech journalists confirmed that European Parliament translators were not to blame. Their delivery of Topolánek's words was quoted by the international press in the following terms:

"The US Treasury secretary talks about permanent action and we, at our spring council, were quite alarmed at that [...] The US is repeating mistakes from the 1930s, such as wide-ranging stimuluses, protectionist tendencies and appeals, the 'Buy American' campaign, and so on," he told the Parliament session in Strasbourg. "All these steps, their combination and their permanency, are the road to hell."

It is not the first time that Topolánek made a blunder in the European Parliament. Presenting the Czech EU Presidency's priorities in January, the prime minister caused an outcry when he suggested that the EU's current Nice Treaty was better than the Lisbon Treaty, which the Union's leaders are struggling to push through."
http://www.euractiv.com/en/opinion/czech-us-remarks-complicate-obama-prague-visit/article-180683?Ref=RSS

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The moral of this story is... don't believe all the hype when those reporting a matter have an agenda.

26. March 2009, 19:34:50
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
(V):   Everybody has an agenda.  Even you. 

26. March 2009, 20:06:53
Czuch 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
Artful Dodger:

26. March 2009, 20:48:03
Bernice 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
Artful Dodger: hahahahaha

26. March 2009, 20:57:58
Mort 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
Artful Dodger: ......... tell me then, if you think I have one... what do you think it is. I'll bet ya 1000 chips ya wrong.

26. March 2009, 21:53:50
Czuch 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
(V): Thats what everyone says.....

26. March 2009, 21:58:07
Mort 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
Czuch: .. I'm not everyone. I'm just one part of the human race. Generalisation and assumption based on pre determined values of what a person is based on a label.... Is never accurate.

Especially when you've never actually met the person. It's good to see.

26. March 2009, 22:00:25
Czuch 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
(V): your agenda is to seek the truth wherever it is to be found...

26. March 2009, 22:10:00
Mort 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
Czuch: No, that is just one thing I enjoy to do. It is useful sometimes, especially when dealing with officialdom.. It's so nice to watch them squirm after they have tried to be less then honest.

Ya know.. that little niggle.. "something stinks/is wrong here"

Like one time I was told that one office could not communicate with another office 400 miles away..... my reply.. "what!! You've never heard of the postal service? ..... the bloke hung up.

26. March 2009, 23:40:02
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
(V): I watched the speech live, and that was exactly what he said. Of course, some of his fellow partymen (like Vondra) tried to downplay the meaning of his words, being shocked by their openness and afraid of the consequences. And by the way, I don't see it as a blunder at all. That's just a wish of the socialists.

26. March 2009, 23:43:12
Mort 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
Pedro Martínez: So did I... and quite frankly with both going on it was difficult to make out what he was saying... He ummmmmd and rrrrrrdd and was so confused over his words I'm not sure he knew what he was talking about. I think he just had a bad day and was waffling on as he was expected to speak.

26. March 2009, 23:50:19
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: The US economic policy is the road to hell."
(V): I can imagine that could be the impression you had. I had quite the opposite feeling. The problem lies with the interpreters and translators in Strasbourg and Brussels. :)

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