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19. January 2003, 22:42:56
Rose 
Subject: I'm confused
Fencer or anyone else who knows this.. Is it correct to say that you can never join any new tournaments until the ones you are in are completed? I tried to enter eddies... it said:
You cannot join this tournament because you are already playing First official BrainKing.com tournament (Reversi 6x6). Your Brain Knight membership level allows you to play only one tournament per game type. You can sign up for another tournament after the previous one is finished.


will it always be set up like this?

19. January 2003, 21:37:28
harley 
Subject: Re: Stingeroni Classic Backgammon Tourney I
Not at all Stingeroni, my toes aren't squashed in the slightest!! Maybe we should have an ultimate match between the winner of your tourney and the winner of mine?! Could be interesting!

The tournaments with possible prizes, how about, just having them for a certain BKR. Those with ratings 1900-2100, then another for people with ratings 900-1200. And so on.. if its only brains up for grabs people would be less likely to cheat than if it was for a membership anyway.
Are there enough people in each rating bracket to do that?
What I'm thinking is those with lower ratings would stand more of a chance of winning, and if they suddenly excelled in a game it could be looked at and you could tell if there was any cheating going on! Theres probably a major flaw in that idea I haven't thought of!! Hey, what do you expect off the top of my head!!

19. January 2003, 20:15:11
eddie spaghetti 
Subject: Re:
i didnt think about that with chess ddint realize people would do that but nothin surprises me..maybe once a month picl one game other than chess like ya said and try it with that...maybe a trial tourney?hhmnn see how it goes...

19. January 2003, 20:08:46
Stinger 
Subject: Re:
Simple...threaten to tell their mother on them.

19. January 2003, 20:06:50
Fencer 
Hmmm, there is a risk that if I promise a paid membership for a winner of some official tournament, some people would start cheating with chess computer programs etc. Maybe it could be done with games where is very little chance that there exists a program for them (Tablut, Tank Battle) because they are not well-known.
Any ideas?

19. January 2003, 20:02:51
eddie spaghetti 
Subject: Re: Stingeroni Classic Backgammon Tourney I
i like the idea someone had about winnin a paid membership if ya win the tourney maybe the sites tourneys if someone wins a game in the sites tourney maybe you win brains? not alot maybe like 10 or so for each game in the tourney thats cool...great job on the tourney features fencer..i cant imagine how good this sites gonna get ...if anyone had any doubts about bein a paid member here now should be the time to join up...what a site...

19. January 2003, 20:01:00
Stinger 
Subject: Re: Stingeroni Classic Backgammon Tourney I
I'm already signed up for yours hrlqns.
I gotta say that when I made this tourney, I didn't see that you had made one as well...otherwise I would have made it a Nack Tourney. I didn't mean to step on your toes here. :)

19. January 2003, 19:57:23
harley 
Subject: Re: Stingeroni Classic Backgammon Tourney I
Any objections to me joining your tourney as well as having my own?!

19. January 2003, 19:53:47
Fencer 
Come on, let's see how many tournaments can be processed at once ;-) Actually, this number is virtually unlimited.

19. January 2003, 19:52:05
Stinger 
Subject: Stingeroni Classic Backgammon Tourney I
I have also started a backgammon tourney. No limit to the number of players. Anyone from Brain Pawn membership and up can play. It starts tomorrow (20th), so hurry and sign in if you'd like to play. This will be a regular tournament, with a new one starting at regular intervals (to be determined yet).

19. January 2003, 19:17:24
harley 
Subject: Re: Hrlqns backgammon tourney
LMAO Aurora (rrbrls)!!

Lamby, my tourney starts Tuesday but I think Goonerg has given people a week or so to sign up?
I'll probably be doing more backgammon ones if this goes well :o)

19. January 2003, 18:48:33
Back Soon 
Subject: Re: Hrlqns backgammon tourney
OOOps sorry, Ive just looked again & the date is there! :o)lol xx

19. January 2003, 18:46:31
Back Soon 
Subject: Re: Hrlqns backgammon tourney
Thanks for the help, much appreciated! :o)
I havent got enough empty slots yet, but I'll try! Yes I will seriously consider membership!When is the cut off date to join? Thats brilliant what Goonerg is offering aswell! :o) lol xxx

19. January 2003, 18:32:54
AuroraBorealis 
Subject: Re: Hrlqns backgammon tourney
hrlnsqsr..theres just one thing that puzzles me with this tourney of yours..the SPELLING! I thought you would have called it "Hrlqrns bckgmmn trnmnt ??????

19. January 2003, 18:09:13
harley 
Subject: Re: Hrlqns backgammon tourney
Hi Lamby, click on the 'tournament' link above, then on the backgammon link. It will say 'sign up for this tournament', or something along those lines!
You need 7 empty slots, and you can only play in one tournament at a time.
Goonerg is offering a prize tourney where you can win 6 month knight membership! Then you could enter more than one tournament if you had membership!! (Not that I'm trying to put you off the backgammon, EVERYONE is welcome! Just thought I'd point out the better offer in fairness!)
Good luck and I hope you can join in! I'll probably be doing another one after this if it goes well.

19. January 2003, 18:00:30
Back Soon 
Subject: Re: Hrlqns backgammon tourney
Hi, Im interested in joining the backgammon tourney but Ive never entered into a tourney before. Can you tell me what I need to do please, plus Im not sure whether Ive got too many games on the go already? Thanks :o)

19. January 2003, 13:08:55
harley 
Subject: Hrlqns backgammon tourney
Hi, I started a tournament for backgammon, I hope I set the BKR's right! It should be set so everyone can play! If anyone spots a mistake can they let me know? Cheers!
Oh yeah, sign up while you're there!!

19. January 2003, 12:48:27
harley 
Subject: Re: eddie spaghetti tourney
Nice one Eddie, I've signed up for a few, great idea having it as a fast tourney! Good luck to everyone!

19. January 2003, 00:58:35
eddie spaghetti 
Subject: Re: eddie spaghetti tourney
they have all the games there so if 4 people sign up for a game its on for that game it doesnt give a chice for which game it has all of them there its a fast tourney

19. January 2003, 00:56:44
Uil 
Subject: Re: eddie spaghetti tourney
what kind of tourney?

19. January 2003, 00:31:36
eddie spaghetti 
Subject: Re: eddie spaghetti tourney
also this tourney starts on tuesday the 21st

19. January 2003, 00:13:46
eddie spaghetti 
Subject: eddie spaghetti tourney
i amde up a sorta test tourney i have it with only 2 days to move and a max of 8 people per game...this way the first 8 that sign up play and if its done right it would go fast and you wont be stuck waitin for people to move so if ya like fast games and want to try a fast tourney please sign up..and good luck

14. January 2003, 10:35:33
Uil 
Subject: Re:
thanks Fencer but for that reason i don't play that games in the tourney

11. January 2003, 02:33:06
p257 
Subject: just my 2 cents
i would prefer a two game match with each player in the tournaments. ( one of each color ). for one reason. I'm playing black against the two strongest players in my section. that's a big disadvantage. good luck to every one in the tournaments.

10. January 2003, 08:03:38
Fencer 
Uil: Yes, that's right. Please take this first tournament as an experimental one :-)

10. January 2003, 00:42:11
Uil 
Subject: Re:
Hi Fencer, in games like horde chess or maharadja chess it gives a great advantage for one color.
For example: if you play in a tourney horde chess and play 4 times black and 3 times white you normally win 3 games and loose 4

9. January 2003, 19:22:24
Fencer 
About tournaments, if you play 2 games of each color and white has better chances to win, then the result will be mostly 1:1, won't it? So there is no difference between playing both-color games with three opponents and one game with each of 7 opponents in the section. I personally prefer the current solution. But I can support the mentioned tournament type later. The first tournament is only one type of all tournaments I plan to implement.

9. January 2003, 15:13:33
AuroraBorealis 
Subject: 4iar strategy
Here is my 2 cents on the subject.
The 7x6 board is solved mathematically, and proven a first-player win, presented by L.Victor Allis in his master thesis: "A Knowledge-based Approach of Connect-Four (1989)" The 8x8 board however has not to my knowledge been subject of the same research, and amongst players on IYT and GT it has often been discussed if the first or second player has the advantage. McStack has pointed out, that the first player is the first being able to make a weak move and therefore the second player has an advantage with defensive play. My personal feeling based is on this, and the fact that the second player have more possible winning combinations, are that second player in most games, has the advantage. First player can in my opinion, by playing "perfect", only achieve a draw in many openings, with time I´d might even argue that the 8x8 board is a tie!
For tournament strategy I´d prefer to play 2 games one of each color, against each opponent, this opens for a more fair and strategically challenging 4iar tournaments.

8. January 2003, 20:20:08
Goonerg 
Subject: Re: ?
(you are talking about 4iar?) I am not sure, and I am not good enough to be in that bracket but some top rated guys & gals have stated that against lower ranked players ( and some all the time ), they prefer to go second!

Ask someone like McStack on GT, he is a truly awesome player, and know far more than I do!

8. January 2003, 20:16:08
eddie spaghetti 
Subject: Re: ?
how so? because when ya go first you are on the offense? and goin second you have to start on defense? so to speak?

8. January 2003, 20:13:25
Goonerg 
Subject: Re: ?
Yes it does make a difference. Games like 5 in a line, Reversi, 4iar(?) & chess can all be shown to have a bias toward the person going first (although some really good 4iar players prefer going 2nd) at the end of the day, the better player should win, but with a match between two even players, it could make a difference.

8. January 2003, 20:03:49
eddie spaghetti 
Subject: ?
i read the FAQS but was curious...i hate keep bringin up other sites but at other ones when ya play tourney games you play 2 games against each opponent...one of each color...here we play only one game against each...i have no problem with this...but i always hear people say when ya go first or last someone may have an advantage?...personally when i play four in a row games of any type i like to go first i seem to do better when i do it that way but thats me...what my question is ,is this..does goin first or last in ANY game give someone an advantage? or are they all equal? i was just wonderin due to a few people asks me why we only play one game i did read the faqs and understand how the tourney works.. was just wonderin if you get an advantage of any type for goin first or last?..ok the noodleman is done askin questions hopefully anyone esle that was thinkin about this also it will help them....later fellow brain heads....

8. January 2003, 13:40:44
Radiant2008 :-) 
Subject: Re: DeadLine SignUp FirstTourny??
Okay, I certainly will - A bit more time to practise on games is always welcome, though :o)) (Please send us a warning when we can start signing up - but, i guess you will :-)).

8. January 2003, 00:40:43
Descenter 
Subject: Way 2 Go
GR8 tourney. I like the way you do business Mr. Fencer.

7. January 2003, 22:51:30
eddie spaghetti 
Subject: Re: Good luck every one
you need us to find one for ya? haha

7. January 2003, 22:46:32
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Good luck every one
Thanks :-) And don't ask how much images I had to create for Backgammon. Is any other game more complicated? ;-)

7. January 2003, 21:52:07
eddie spaghetti 
Subject: Re: Good luck every one
yes good luck 2 everyone...also everyone lets give fencer a big round of applause on these tourneys and all the hard work inviolved..job well done..can anyone just imagine how much typin this guy much do in a week? whew...i would just rather sit back and use my mouse.,..haha

7. January 2003, 21:26:03
Rose 
Subject: Good luck every one
Good luck to all in the tournies.. Fencer I just had a look at the page for standings and to keep track of games. I love the lay out!!! Well done for your first tourney!!!

7. January 2003, 09:59:26
Fencer 
Subject: Re: DeadLine SignUp FirstTourny??
I am sorry radiant, you missed the deadline.
But you will be welcome to join any next tournament :-)

6. January 2003, 22:57:01
Radiant2008 :-) 
Subject: DeadLine SignUp FirstTourny??
Can I still sign in for this first tourny, or is it closed already? If so, too bad :-(

But for all those who have signed in on time: GoodLuck! :D

5. January 2003, 23:47:19
Uil 
Subject: Re: BKR
Fencer, thanks for the answer. Looking forward to improve my BKR's

5. January 2003, 08:05:13
Fencer 
Subject: Re: BKR
Yes, all tournament games are rated and will be counted immediately after a game is finished.

5. January 2003, 00:43:21
Uil 
Subject: BKR
I can't find anything about it. Are tournament results counting for your BKR?

1. January 2003, 19:44:25
harley 
Subject: Re:
My head is hung in shame!! LOL, thanks for the compliment Aurora!! All the best for the New Year (hope you get over your hangover soon!! LOL!)

1. January 2003, 19:38:04
AuroraBorealis 
Subject: Re:
LOL..Im not slurring no words!! its not easy to give you a compliment, is it ... huh..? HUH???..LOL

1. January 2003, 19:36:28
harley 
Subject: Re:
Have you stopped drinking since last night?!! You're slurring your words!!!!!!

1. January 2003, 19:28:02
AuroraBorealis 
Subject: Re:
awww hlqrnslhs..who wants to be on your enemie list??

30. December 2002, 18:37:46
Fencer 
No, this is a tournament rule, like for real tournaments. You cannot choose who you are playing with.

30. December 2002, 18:02:56
harley 
What happens if you are signed up for a tournament and someone on you enemies list is also signed up? Is it possible to end up playing that person? Just curious how that would work!

26. December 2002, 00:29:56
Uil 
Subject: horde chess
i suggest it will be the first and last horde chess tournament. It is not a fair game, with 2 good players white always wins

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