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Of course, Purple don't like we talk about programs. That's easy to understand!
I believe in Sobek words. I know this post will be deleted, but I'm tired of playing against cheaters, and I still don't understand Why doesn't Fencer do anything. Comercial reasons? Patrick Chu have done the same in IYT, and that's why so few people are still there.
Because of that, I've almost give up of playing Checkers, Czech Checkers or Chess. But I don't like it, because I paid my membership precisly because of some of that games! Fencer, you can not simply ignore us!!! You know that many, many people is tired of this, just as I am. Some of them speack, others are silenced, others are simply bored with these kind of things, and go away. I know a few cases...
Sincerely (and I say this because I really like this site), I hope it will run in "other directions" in the future...
Modified by Undertaker. (9. December 2006, 23:38:46)
mangue: I don't want war. However, I think everybody have to know who use programs. Now, I know more players what supostly use programs, but many players don't know and I think nobody wants play against players that use programs. But it's only my opinion. Thanks for your help :)
I better play against a human with computer as against a human accusing me to be a cheater if I win. I second Purple argument, do not miss respect to your opponent.
If you want to avoid cheaters, try to play some exotic variants like parachute checkers or anti-checkers, there are surely very few efficient program there!
Or try to play with some opponents you trust and who trust you and add the cheaters to your blocked users list
Modified by Undertaker. (10. December 2006, 01:06:59)
Purple: Look, I want play honestly. If I want play�against programs I don't need connect BK. Do you want I�delete my previous post? Ok, I do it. (edited to make it acceptable)
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Undertaker :-)) I watch your game :-) I don't understand :-) stoupa in current game had winning combination in 8 move :-DDDDD and more next game (with by the perhaps? :-)) ) is very very same as Paswil 2.5 (good czech draughts program but not same best) :)
mangue: no, because I am better as draughts programs :-))) I use to draughts program to analyze REAL games no net game. I want play against human no computer. If I want play against draughts program, I don't need connect to game server :-)
sobek: I am totally agreing and this very certain that computer is a problem in "offline" site. This is also the main reason why I hardly ever play chess, unless I know my opponent in real life and trust him.
On the other hand, it is hopeless to get rid of computer assisted opponent. You can write code of conducts, etc...
An opponent playing only the computer moves would be bored quite quickly. However, if you do "study" with a computer, it will be almost impossible to detect.
Also, I am sure that you use a computer to play here at least to make your move and talk on the forums ;-)
mangue: Mangue, me friend from czech tolt me about it, and sended me for check draughts program. And if player(his opponent) play all move (from first to last) as program, what do You think? Opponent is genius? Or cheater? And not existed only one but more players. I check another players(czech serious players tolt me, who)and I find next player use program. I am human, no program :-)In real know me more, more good players :-)
thanks sobek for not saying stupid you seems to be certain to know who is playing with computer and who is not, so probably you know how a computer is different. By the way, are you a human or a computer
mangue: sorry but You are crazy (I want wrote stupid) I beat more programs and "programs players". I more play in real and online, but I want play against people, no PC. I lost only with people
sobek: Do you have solid proof they are using programs or just you think they are from how they play? I dont think putting out a list is a good idea but you could check with Fencer and see what he says and if he ok's it then feel free to post it.
Hrm, reading the rules does help, i guess. ^_^;
:-b
Hmm, i thought the "X/Y/Z" notation had something to do with the vacation days and bonus days and whatnot...
Never thought there could be a total time limit for games, and 1 day is for sure too low to me. ^^
Last move by me is «2. December 2005, 01:46:42»
But then i get a message:
«You ran out of time (Gothic Checkers) francescolr 2. December 2005, 08:39:59»
?!? I thought i had one day for each move?
I don't understand this. x_x
If white could catch Black sleeping, white could try to place 1 piece at A7, a second piece at C5
Then try to place your third piece where black would have to jump, and then auto-jump and capture C5 piece also - leaving them on B6 so you can jump and win.
But if black is smart, they can most likely stay away from that trap also and go for the draw.
there are too few czech check ty's , so I decided to host one myself.
!! czech check it out !!
Don't mis out on this one, it will be a big one; sign up soon, it will start November 12
am playing a game against Sodek, and it says below the game that a draw would result in zero bkr ponts for me. That looks odd to me, as Sodek's rating is 250 points higher then mine.
You would think a draw against such a fine player would help you increase your bkr somewhat ..
Pedro Martínez: thanks for the answer .. i was mistaken though .. i am playing a game of 'checkers' and not 'czech checkers' ;) .. i will post the question again on the 'checkers' board
BIG BAD WOLF:
We both know that in Checkers rules there is no such rule, so a new player will not go to the Checkers rules because he assumes he knows the checkers rules. He even play the checkers and see okay, I know this game so no problem. Then he plays the variants, and you know that we have to explain the rules to new comers, because they don't understand it. Again I'm not saying because of me or you, we are already fan of checkers variants. I really think that the Checkers variants rules should be improved.
Ferjo: I will agree with you that the rules are not always easy to understand. (If someone would like to re-write the rules to be clearer, I know Fencer would take a look at putting them up - if they are good enough.)
But, in the rules it says something about the rules being the same as Checkers.
You then need to look at the rules of Checkers, and you will find this rule:
If the player has more possibilities to capture opponent's pieces, he/she can select any of them. However, when a queen (in variants with long jumps) can make a jump, the player cannot select a pawn to jump with.
Again, I agree the rules would be MUCH beter if all directions are in one place, and not have to keep looking at different pages to find the complete rules.
Stevie:
I enjoy the game too, but if there is a section with game rules why not they are acurate instead of being somehow "tricky"...
Thats what I'm saying.
And I meant Chances of course not change on the last post.. sorry about that.
I dont mind to be honest, I enjoy the game enough that if I lose..I try to learn from it, and if its to a Czech player..then from what you say, I should learn more :o)
Fencer:
Sorry Fencer but it doesn't and it should, this is what its written on game rules concerning Czech Checkers:
"Czech Checkers differs from the standard Checkers by the queen (similar to a king in Checkers) movement. When a pawn reaches the last row, it turns to a queen immediately and the queen can move and any spaces diagonally. It can also jump over an enemy's piece any spaces diagonally and make multiple jumps. Moreover, a queen does not have to land directly behind the captured piece, it can choose (when jumping) any other empty square in the line but does not have to jump over two or more pieces at once. The following picture shows a multiple jump made by the white queen (before and after the move):
2 images of Board, explaining the Queen Capture.
The other rules are the same as for normal Checkers."
In my opinion the rules of Checkers variations are somehow vague, its a thing that must be improven at BK. For me doesn't matter because I accompany often the games, so I adapt quickly. But for new players I reckon its very confused. Because what they read in the rules and what its implemented its very different.
if your in position to jump with a queen,and a pawn. Is it a rule you must jump with your queen? I've had this happen twice and would've prefered to have jumped with the pawn
I reckon it depends on positioning. Now the rule of having to capture most is in place, its made it easier to stay away from draws. So I would say the list of draws you just showed Pedro could be reduced a bit
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