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The place to review or just chat about all Music & Videos.


Music Discussion Board

Feel free to talk about ANY Music you are interested in.

Embedding files from YouTube is welcome on this board.

Also any Hyper Links you wish to use.

This is a public board. All members, regardless of membership level (this includes pawns) are welcome to post here.

YOUTUBE has changed the way it codes it's Video Embed's. To make it work now you must right-click on the Video itself, and select 'Copy Embed HTML'. The Embed link under the Video does NOT work at present on BrainKing.

Please note - ANY material posted here deemed offensive or plagiarized will be removed immediately. The posting user(s) will be banned. This is not negotiable. Plagiarism is posting any original writings of another person without proper reference. Such material will be removed to avoid copyright infringements.



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13. June 2007, 02:57:50
ScarletRose 
Subject: Re:

Mousetrap:


Heathcliff, it's me--Cathy.
Come home. I'm so cold!
Let me in-a-your window.


Really good spiritual song!  I like this one as well.. nice and eerie.. good one to really fool the hearts with.. eh... eheheh..


13. June 2007, 02:45:34
ScarletRose 
Subject: Re: I hope this is taken in the proper light
Jim Dandy: I agree.. too much infor.. too much time required as well.. whew.. blow me away.. this board is getting boring again..

13. June 2007, 01:27:44
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: I hope this is taken in the proper light
Jim Dandy:  I think you have made a very good point.  I'd love to discuss some of the videos.  Joe Satriani's video is excellent and for the guitarists out there, watching him play so effortlessly is simply amazing.  I'm more of an accoustic player and lean more toward country but I love the sounds and style he brings out in his music.  Alot of Satriani is technique playing which is very hard to master.  But the bulk of his gift lies in his endless imagination in his guitar solos.  

12. June 2007, 23:56:05
The Col 
Subject: Re: Kate Bush
Mousetrap: What a shame she hated flying,it really hurt her ability to become the star she should have been in North America

12. June 2007, 22:52:31
The Col 
Subject: I hope this is taken in the proper light
The embedding feature is cool,it looks nice and adds color to the board.I hope this doesn't become the board version of MTV though.Slapping down videos with no discussion or time to savour them each individually would be a shame,I personally enjoy the discussion aspect of this board and would hate to see it become merely a video posting option with no chat about the artists or performances.The sheer volume alone could lead it down that path I'll continue posting links for two reasons 1:I can post multiple or single video performances without scrolling off too many posts.
2: cuz I have no idea how to embed

Again,my only concern with embedding is the risk that this board loses its conversational aspect and basically becomes MTV

12. June 2007, 15:35:57
Mousetrap 


One for my dad, his favourite, Kate Bush.

12. June 2007, 15:19:44
Andersp 
Subject: Summer!

12. June 2007, 15:13:51
Jason 
Subject: Differnt

12. June 2007, 14:47:08
Andersp 
Subject: OK..i try again

jadarite:


I havent done any segregation, Fencer has said that this video option is for rooks only.  I suppose his main reason is that he doesnt want multi nics to pop up and post "junk", you can ask him :)


So, when two mods offered to assist you to embed i just asked if that was something only mods could do or if we "normal rooks" could do it too.


So...please post any complaints about segregation to Fencer im sure he'll be happy to answer :)


12. June 2007, 08:33:20
The Col 
Subject: Re: Thanks everybody!
jadarite: I also agree,your question may have merit,but is probably best suited for the guy holding the purse strings.

12. June 2007, 06:43:52
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Andy McKee
Amazing talent.



I found this guy on YouTube a while back. He is nothing like I've ever seen before. This is my favorite song of his.

12. June 2007, 06:33:09
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Perhaps you all have seen this one
Canon


12. June 2007, 06:18:43
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Oh yeah, and they pick faster than most guitarists can think!

12. June 2007, 06:17:34
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Did I mention Tommy has a brother?


Tommy and Phil in Pickie, Pickie, Pickie

12. June 2007, 05:24:57
dfgdfg 
Subject: Re: Thanks everybody!
coan.net & TexasToest:

I'll try commenting to both your comments within the scope of this board being music related.

When I registered, my account had to be approved. So, I could not post music videos in here if I wasn't approved. This is the same as not allowing pawns to post. I have no greater ability as a non-member than I do as a member of the site. In fact, I have less capabilites as a non-member than being a member.

Nice try sugar coating subscriptions, but I am not buying it. Is this a game server or not? I would like to know my money if I subscribe goes to games, not videos.

12. June 2007, 04:36:18
TexasToest 
Subject: Re: Thanks everybody!
jadarite:  I'm going to duck this one, and refer you to BrainKing.com where your arguments might fall on eyes who can do something about your complaints.  This board is for music related chat only.  Thanks for helping us keep it that way.

coan.net:  Thanks for fielding the comments. 

12. June 2007, 04:21:33
coan.net 
Subject: Re: Thanks everybody!
jadarite: I can give you a good reason if you like.

Lets say there is a "bad" paid member here who does post a bad video - what will happen. The moderator will ban them from posting. Then if that "bad" paid member wanted to continue, they could sign in with fake pawn accounts over and over and continue to post the "bad" stuff... in turn, making the whole board turn into pawn-approve status, which in turn in very bad for pawns.

That is just my opinion of why I think it is good to not give pawns the ability to post videos. Again, just my personal opinion.

12. June 2007, 04:16:12
dfgdfg 
Subject: Re: Thanks everybody!
Andersp:

This points out the stupidity in segregating the group and limiting features to members only. I understand Fencer wants subscribers, but subscriber limited features should be game related. You can tie a pretty red bow and try to offer me it for my computer, but I don't need a pretty red bow. What I want are game features. If you aren't willing to improve on the game features, I can't complain. However, what do you try to achieve by limiting this Youtube (the red bow) to subscribers only? That is no incentive to subscribe, TRY AGAIN.

12. June 2007, 03:48:09
TexasToest 
Subject: Re: Thanks everybody!
Andersp:  Rooks can embed all the files they want.  So, if a pawn asks you to embed a file for them, you could.

12. June 2007, 03:35:06
Andersp 
Subject: Re: Thanks everybody!
TexasToest:  Can we who arent mods embed for pawns too?

12. June 2007, 03:29:28
TexasToest 
Subject: Thanks everybody!
jadarite:  Isn't that always the way?  The people who are supposed to read the legalese don't know  the words and they certainly don't understand the intricacies.  Shame on YouTube.  That ought to be on page one in words kids under 13 can understand.  Question:  Are you under age 13?  Yes?  Then, go get your mom or pop, and let them decide if you can be here. 

Sorry, the embedding privilege is only available to Rooks, I believe.  You can ask one of us to go get the code, and embed it for you if you'd like.  Um, yeah.  What Eriisa said.

Tigger:  Isn't Emmanuel wonderful?  It's obvious he gets a huge kick out of playing that geetar.  Actually, did you bring him to us earlier, like a couple of weeks ago?  Cuz, after I watched that first video, I looked at a few more, and the Classical Gas was one of them. Love the way he plays the short strings, don't you?  Hahahaha!   He's great anytime.  I wonder what kind of strings he uses.  They are really bright.  Tell us more about Israel Kamakawiwo'ole.  I believe I HAD heard his voice before, but didn't know what I was listening to.

Jim Dandy:  Very interesting.  I'd never seen a set-up like that.  Isn't Tom Rush an inspiration?  He's so wonderful.  An unsung hero in most circles.  How well I remember that day in MY life.

Great stuff, everybody.  Thanks for the welcome home from a hard, long day at work.  Music always makes me feel better, and it's always better when shared.

11. June 2007, 20:42:41
redfrog 
Subject: Re: If you've never heard this man sing
Tigger: I had never seen a video before of IZ playing - but I am a fan -thanks for posting that - the footage at the end was fitting...

11. June 2007, 20:38:57
The Col 
Subject: I check utube about once a month for this masterpiece
i prefer the original recording done by the composer Murray McLaughlin,but this version will have to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3EyA2WWfpY

11. June 2007, 17:36:01
The Col 
Subject: Re: embedding
TexasToest: This is just a guess,but considering the video was circa 1972 maybe it was used for live stereo enhancement.i know The Grateful Dead used a similar mic setup when using their famous "BEAST" pa system

11. June 2007, 14:42:34
Eriisa 
Subject: Re:
Andersp: Yes, I know. It was simply a friendly offer.

11. June 2007, 14:25:35
Andersp 
Subject: Re:
Eriisa: If Fencer makes this feature open for pawns too, then you dont need to embed for them :)

11. June 2007, 14:04:18
Andersp 
Subject: Re:From he who wrote it

TexasToest: Try and read # 9 on this link


http://www.youtube.com/t/terms


cant hurt to read # 5 F too


11. June 2007, 12:32:43
Eriisa 
Subject: Re:
jadarite: Mousetrap is right. Embedding is a Rook membership perk. But if you post the other link, one of us will embed it for you.

11. June 2007, 08:37:35
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: Favourite guitarists
jadarite: The embeding link does,nt work you need to copy the other link.

11. June 2007, 08:20:20
dfgdfg 
This is one of my favorite guitarists:

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/44-q_flFb-k"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param></embed></object>

11. June 2007, 08:04:10
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: If you've never heard this man sing
Tigger: Those were grrrreattt!
My favourite Guitarist was always John Williams. I didn,t know any others lmbo!

11. June 2007, 07:38:45
Papa Zoom 
Subject: If you've never heard this man sing
You're missing out. Sadly he's no longer with us but his beautiful voice is so pure. Enjoy



Israel Kamakawiwo'ole -

11. June 2007, 07:35:23
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Somewhere Over The Rainbow


In the beginning he uses harmonics. He makes the guitar sound like a harp. It's a tricky thing to do. Sweet.

11. June 2007, 07:32:23
Papa Zoom 
Subject: You've never heard Classical Gas played this way before.


More tommy Emmanuel

11. June 2007, 07:30:50
Papa Zoom 
Subject: My favorite Guitarist


Tommy Emmanuel Guitar Boogie

11. June 2007, 07:24:26
dfgdfg 
Subject: Re:
TexasToest:

I found the part quoted earlier. You have to go to the TOS page which is linked within links LOL. If I, a 33 year old, is having trouble navigating to that area, I don't think a 8 or 9 old is going to consider reading the TOS or know where it's at.

The language is legally crafted rather vaguely. It's under a header "9. Ability to Accept Terms of Service", which brings the question if children aren't able to accept the terms, are they required to know they aren't able to accept the terms? If you get past that puzzle, you see they mention 18 years, and then say it's not "intended" for people under 13. What the heck does that mean? What happened to the 5 years in between?

They could have easily stated, "children under 13" are not allowed. However, they didn't. Furthermore, they request, "please", that the children go to another site. They don't come straight out and say, "children are not allowed".

11. June 2007, 07:00:23
TexasToest 
Subject: This should get us through Monday....
Modified by TexasToest (11. June 2007, 07:02:34)



Albert King and Stevie Ray Vaughan. Doesn't get any better than that.

11. June 2007, 06:56:49
TexasToest 
Subject: Re:
jadarite: Perhaps those who wrote that it is there will tell us where to find it?

11. June 2007, 06:49:42
dfgdfg 
Subject: Re:
TexasToest:

I don't see where it says kids under 13 shouldn't be there. At http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines it says, "Also, be advised that we work closely with law enforcement and we report child exploitation."

So, if they are reporting child exploitation if and when it occurs, that would indicate logically that they allow children to make videos. Otherwise, they wouldn't be making that statement.

11. June 2007, 06:35:49
TexasToest 
Subject: Re:
jadarite:  Interesting that YouTube lets the videos stay if their rule really is under 13 forbidden.

11. June 2007, 06:25:11
dfgdfg 
13 year olds not use Youtube? I have seen kids younger than that make videos over there LOL

11. June 2007, 01:31:07
Nirvana 


Judy Garland ~ Somewhere Over the Rainbow

Born 10th June 1922, Judy Garland.

11. June 2007, 01:28:02
Nirvana 
amongst those born 10th June ...........

1944, Rick Price, The Move, (1969 UK No.1 single 'Blackberry Way'), Wizzard, (1973 UK No.1 single 'See My Baby Jive'). Wizzard ~ Angel Fingers

1941, Shirley Owens, The Shirelles, (1961 US No.1 & UK No.4 single 'Will You Love Me Tomorrow'). Will You Love Me Tomorrow

1922, Judy Garland, singer, actress. Played Dorothy in the 1939 film 'Wizard Of Oz' sang 'Over The Rainbow' in the film, 1961 US No.1 comeback album 'Judy At Carnegie Hall'. 'Over The Rainbow' was voted the 'Song Of The Century' in a 2001 poll published in America. She died June 22nd 1969 of a barbiturate overdose. Judy Garland & Barbra Streisand 'Hooray for love'

1910, Blues singer, guitarist, Chester Burnett, (Howlin Wolf). 1956 hit, 'Smoke Stack Lightning'. He died from cancer on January 10th 1976. Shake it For Me

11. June 2007, 00:54:48
Nirvana 
Modified by Nirvana (11. June 2007, 12:02:10)


Bernard Cribbins ~ Right Said Fred!

the video was posted on youtube by christophercole08, of his children acting the song out. Cute, I thought!

10. June 2007, 01:51:03
Nirvana 


Deep Purple ~ Smoke on Water.

Born 9th June 1941, Jon Lord.

9. June 2007, 22:00:36
TexasToest 
Subject: Individual approval of videos prior to posting.
I think this discussion would get better exposure to those you need to target on the Features Discussion Board, or the BrainKing.com Discussion Board.  

9. June 2007, 21:53:23
Family Man 
Subject: Re:
Andersp: Sounds like a conflict of interest to allow those videos then, dont want to lose that "family oriented site" endorsement!

9. June 2007, 21:47:24
Andersp 
Subject: Re:

Family Man: Better safe than sorry :)....


You Tube recommends kids under 13 to NOT visit their website


;;;;;; If you are under 13 years of age, then please do not use the YouTube Website—there are lots of other great web sites for you. Talk to your parents about what sites are appropriate for you......


we have a lot of players who are under 13 as far as i know


9. June 2007, 21:38:24
Family Man 
Subject: Re:
Andersp: I like the idea as well, except I am sure some people would inundate them with videos to view, just for the sport in it!

9. June 2007, 21:30:32
Andersp 
Subject: Re:
Modified by Andersp (9. June 2007, 21:31:21)

TexasToest: I hope you are right but wouldnt it be better if the videos were approved before they are posted?



I think i've seen a lot of people who think its cool to post very disguisting staff.



What does it help if they are banned if the videos have been here a cpl of hours, the damage is already done?



Cant be so much job for Fencer and his Globs to approve the videos before they are posted, we are not talking about hundreds a day


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