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13. September 2003, 13:27:36
danoschek 
Subject: Re: Fahrenheidt 451
For the same reason you don't like the song 'mrs robinson' ... ~*~

13. September 2003, 12:59:07
hokuriku 
Subject: Re: Fahrenheidt 451
I´m curious too, Dano...

13. September 2003, 12:58:15
hokuriku 
Subject: Re: Some of my fave authors
Magenta Spiral: I do like Fahrenheidt 451, but not the movie, just the book. For my opinion the possibilities in a movie are too limited to show what you expected in your fantasy.
Thank you for the message. The "Twilight Zone" is very interesting, but I haven´t red yet Huxley´s "The Doors of Perception" (I just know "Brave New World").
At the time being I´m not "at home", so I cannot check the authors I would like you to get to know, for instance Nesvadba, a Czech Science Fiction writer. Do you know him?
To make things clear, I AM a fan of Science Fiction, but I read a lot of other books (seldom bestsellers).
Have a nice day.

13. September 2003, 03:11:54
The Listener 
Subject: Re: Fahrenheidt 451
I'm curious Dano, what makes you dislike Bradbury's work and in particular Fahrenheit 451?

12. September 2003, 23:40:53
danoschek 
Subject: Re: Fahrenheidt 451
Banana ~*~

12. September 2003, 23:16:55
The Listener 
Subject: Re: Fahrenheidt 451
How Long is a Chinaman

12. September 2003, 22:59:11
danoschek 
Subject: Re: Fahrenheidt 451
Where is the what if the who is in why ? ~*~

12. September 2003, 22:44:51
The Listener 
Subject: Re: Fahrenheidt 451
I know you are but what am I? :·)~

12. September 2003, 22:39:58
danoschek 
Subject: Fahrenheidt 451
I am one of those critics ... ~*~

12. September 2003, 22:12:13
The Listener 
Subject: Re: Some of my fave authors
Thanks Hokuriku, I'll check into the English possiblities. Ya never know what you can find on the net if you look hard enough!

Have you ever seen the Fahrenheit 451 movie? I have it on DVD, it's really awesome despite what the critics say!
There's supposed to be a new 451 film in the making and Bradbury's completely involved with it! So, maybe we'll see a 21st Century version.

Getting back to books -- I'm currently right smack-dab in the middle of reading Rod Serling's second Twilight Zone stories book (RARE), and I started Aldous Huxley's The Doors of Perception. I've got my reading cut out for me! I love Sci-Fi the most though, I'm currently an aspiring writer and the story focuses on you guessed it - Science Fiction :·)

I heard there are many excellent German and Russian sci-fi writers. These days, I would be surprised to read anything good that is popular or new. But there's a first time for everything, no?

12. September 2003, 13:26:01
hokuriku 
Subject: Re: Some of my fave authors
Magenta Spiral: I´m sorry but I did not find this one in English. It was published in Moskow (MIR 1979/1982) and Berlin.
The name of the authors is spelled differently in English: Strugatski or Strugatzki, Arkadi (or Arkady) and Boris.
I found one of their very famous books in English:
"Hard to be a God" (Daw Books, Inc. 1974)
Arkadi and Boris Strugatsky have been very popular und were frequently met with in Soviet scientific journals. They write stories and novels about robots or strangers from outer space, most of them with a fine sense of humour and at the time, when the Soviet Union ruled Eastern Europe, with more or less hidden criticism of the Soviet system.
Boris, born 1933, is an astronomer who was working at the computer laboratory of Pulkovo Observatory. Arkady, born 1925, is a linguist specializing in the Japanese, and also a translator and reviewer.

12. September 2003, 12:54:31
hokuriku 
Subject: Re: Some of my fave authors
Magenta Spiral: I´m going to check whether you can get them in English; I know them in German and in Russian...

12. September 2003, 01:54:35
danoschek 
Subject: Re: Some of my fave authors
German versions available as Suhrkamp-Edition ... ~*~

12. September 2003, 01:20:49
The Listener 
Subject: Re: Some of my fave authors
Hokuriku: Hmmm, no, I haven't heard of those. What are they about & what year were they published?

11. September 2003, 21:48:29
hokuriku 
Subject: Re: Some of my fave authors
It seems you like Sience Fiction, too. Do you know "The Way to Amalthea" by Arkadi and Boris Strugazki (or some other novels by the brothers Strukazki)?

11. September 2003, 21:20:56
hokuriku 
Subject: Re: Fine company! :-)
Certainly a very fine company... Did you ever read "The Remains of the Day" by Kazuo Ishiguro?
At the moment I´m reading: "The last Emperor" (From Emperor to Citizen. The Autobiography of Aisin-Gidoro PU YI). Very interesting indeed.
And I recommend: Umberto Ecco: "Baudolino" (a book for those who did not forget the dreams of their youth or even childhood.)
A very intersting book too: Jung Chang: "Wild Swans". (Jung Chang, born 1952 in Yibin/Sichuan (China) was the first Chinese to receive a doctorate of a British University. She has been living in England since 1978.)
If your are intersted in history: Milovan Djilas: "Worlds and Bridges". (Djilas, who was a politician in the former Yugoslawia, wrote this book in jail in Belgrad. In this book you will find some of the important sources for the Balkan Wars, now and before the First World War.)

11. September 2003, 21:10:12
hokuriku 
Subject: Re: My FIRST favourite authors
And what about Selma Lagerloef: "Nils Holgerson"?

10. September 2003, 19:43:30
lilac fairy 
Subject: Re: Fine company! :-)
Oh yes Dickens, he has such great characters, 'Peggity' and hahaha 'Barkers is willing' and 'Uriah Heep'

10. September 2003, 18:35:10
Stardust 
Subject: Fine company! :-)
ah to be in such fine literay company!! :-) Just read the last 20 posts,wish I'd been awake to join the discussion lol
I enjoy King and Koontz rules!! Has anyone read "Dolan's Cadillac"? It's a short story in King's "Nightmares and Dreamscapes". I thought it was masterful!
As for "David Copperfield" , Dickens is my favourite story teller of all time!! :-)

10. September 2003, 16:05:22
lilac fairy 
Subject: Re:
Oh I'm getting excited now, hehehhehhehe Best get on with my turns, before my books come. I love a good read, Yippee Thanks for the book section folk, you jogged me into my reading mode again.

10. September 2003, 16:02:09
Badinage 
YES Pinkish Pixie, I thought so! :O)

10. September 2003, 16:01:05
lilac fairy 
Subject: Re:
Oh I don't know so much hehhehehehe, takes a lot to scare Lilac hahahahhahahah, was it worth the read though Arganor???

10. September 2003, 15:57:54
Badinage 
It would scare the purple out of ya Lilac LOL

10. September 2003, 15:55:58
lilac fairy 
Subject: Re:
Well I've just ordered three more books. Two of Wilbur Smith, who can do no wrong in my eyes, I've read nearly all his books.
I was looking at that book called PREY, but couldn't make my mind up about it.

10. September 2003, 15:20:00
Badinage 
HellRaiser and Evil were good books!! And he has some fantastic games too. The Undying for one!!

10. September 2003, 15:15:01
bumble 
I've read all his at one time or another. Excellent.
I've got a pile of Clive Barker books but I haven't read any yet!

10. September 2003, 15:12:54
Badinage 
He also did PREY set in the UK Isle Of Wight I think. Very far fetched but good non-the-less

10. September 2003, 15:10:06
bumble 
*bumble scrambles for pen and paper* THANKS, Aragon!
That's been bugging me for ages.

10. September 2003, 15:07:23
Badinage 
NIGHT PLAGUE, DEATH DREAM and THE SLEEPLESS.

10. September 2003, 15:05:51
bumble 
That was one, but weren't there several?

10. September 2003, 15:04:38
Badinage 
Night Warriors?

10. September 2003, 15:01:04
bumble 
Speaking of Graham Masterton, what were the titles of the books that involved those guys who were sort of super-heroes in their dreams? It's a long time since I read them.

10. September 2003, 14:50:28
lilac fairy 
Subject: Re:
I do love Dean Koontz though, that's why I ordered three, I got a lot of catching up to do on my reading.

10. September 2003, 14:48:00
lilac fairy 
Subject: Re:
Oh right, yes I like Graham Masterton, haven't tried RL, I don't always enjoy Stephen King for some reason, I did enjoy the Shawshank Redemption, it was only a short story too, I read it a long time before they made a film of it, and the book was even better than the film, which usually is the case.

10. September 2003, 14:34:52
harley 
Hey its Magenta who started this board, don't blame me!! ROFL!!
Dean Koontz? Excellent choice! I have his whole collection! Don't forget Graham Masterton and Richard Layman!! And check out Stephen Kings 'Insomnia' if you haven't already. Fantastic!

10. September 2003, 14:31:25
lilac fairy 
Subject: Who's to blame for this then????
Oh honestly Ms Harleykins, you have a lot to answer for, I've just been and bought three Dean Koontz books from Amazon. Now I'm off to look for some John Grisham ones, haven't read any books for ages, now you've all started me off. lolololo

10. September 2003, 14:29:14
Badinage 
Third best book available today Harley :o)

10. September 2003, 14:26:35
harley 
To Kill a Mocking Bird... David Copperfield...

10. September 2003, 13:06:07
Usurper 
Subject: Re: Some Good Books
Magenta: Not only that but Animal Farm, Brave New World and a host of other classics on this spur-of-moment list. :o)

10. September 2003, 06:53:06
ScarletRose 
Subject: Willa Cather
"My Antonia'"

Very inspirational!!

10. September 2003, 06:12:15
The Listener 
Subject: Re: Some Good Books
I noticed you forgot to add George Orwell's "Nineteen Eighty Four" to your list!

10. September 2003, 05:55:49
Usurper 
Subject: Re: Some Good Books
Gulp. I stand corrected. Of course you are right as I now recall. Too many jack & cokes. lol

10. September 2003, 05:53:35
The Listener 
Subject: Re: Some Good Books
Usurper KM: "The Electric Cool-Aid Acid Test" was not written by Ken Kesey. Although it was about Kesey, the author was Tom Wolfe.

10. September 2003, 02:19:48
Usurper 
Subject: Some Good Books
The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
Steppenwolfe - Herman Hesse
Stranger In A Strange Land - Robert Heinlein
Lectures on Levi - Machiavelli
The Republic - Plato
The Electric Cool-Aid Acid Test - Ken Kesey
Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
The Word for World is Forest - Ursula K. LeGuin
The Cost of Discipleship - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Beyond Good & Evil - Nietzche
Pride & Prejudice - Jane Austen
Nichomachean Ethics - Aristotle
Leviathan - Hobbes
Essays - Emerson
Dune - Frank Herbert
Lord of the Rings - Tolkien
If Beale Street Could Talk - James Baldwin
Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain
The Secret Doctrine - Blavatsky

9. September 2003, 22:07:32
Stardust 
Subject: Re: favorite books
ty I will! :-)

9. September 2003, 21:12:17
carolinaQT 
Subject: Re: favorite books
Stardust try "A Rose For Her Grave"

9. September 2003, 20:42:33
danoschek 
Subject: Austrian Figure of Speech
If you lose the ability of naming crap crap
- you eventually will start to stink yourself ... ~*~

9. September 2003, 19:20:14
Stardust 
Subject: Re: favorite books
I enjoyed her writing very much and would have loved to read more of her work,but it's taking me awhile to get past "Bitter Harvest". (2 years lol)
Could you recommend something of hers I would like better,please? :-)

9. September 2003, 19:11:33
carolinaQT 
Subject: Re: favorite books
I agree Stardust....Ann's book "Small Sacrifices" will do the same thing.

9. September 2003, 18:42:33
Stardust 
Subject: Re: favorite books
I read "Bitter Harvest" by Ann Rule.
It was very well written.Very descriptive ...almost too much so. It left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Oh,I don't blame Ms Rule except to say she really knows how to draw an accurate picture. I almost threw the book out when I was finished. Anyone who has read it and has children would understand.

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