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 Run around the Pond

Discuss about this new multiplayer game or comment current runs. (includes all versions of the game)

Game link..... Ponds
Ratings link..... Regular Pond Ratings -and- Dark Pond Ratings -and- Run in the Rain Ratings
Winners link..... All Winners - (Regular Ponds Only) - (Dark Ponds Only) - (Run in the Rain Only)


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22. December 2004, 14:48:25
WhisperzQ 
Could be an option (tick this box style) when you set up the game to AUTOMOVE (there's that word) when everyone has entered a bid like CC said in his lst post, just like setting time limits and number of players and ratings etc. Last person doesn't get a chance to change their bid ... part of teh penalty for being the slowest.

You could also (for a fast game) make it the last person to bid also leaves the game, more like maybe a bird gets them for being the slowest. That would speed some people up, the automove would then kick in after the second lst made their move.

22. December 2004, 13:46:55
Czuch 
Or you could still edit all you want, but only until the last person submitted a bid.

I dont think many people will edit their bids, as there is nothing dynamic about the game that would make anyone want to make a change. I think most people just wanted to change their bids so they can add a new message, but that doesnt work either

22. December 2004, 13:45:42
Stevie 
Subject: Re:
Czuch Chuckers: Would have to be than 10 players though otherwise you wont even get 10 moves out of it

22. December 2004, 13:43:46
Czuch 
Thats the idea Stevie.....


Just like now, in normal games, there can be a 10 day limit, but if we want we can play it all in one night....

I was thinking of a ;ot smaller game, between friends currently online who all want to play a quick game, something like that.

22. December 2004, 13:40:09
Stevie 
Subject: Re: Thanks Fencer
Stevie: But as a fast version..the edit would have to be disabled, so first choiice sticks

22. December 2004, 13:38:26
Stevie 
Subject: Re: Thanks Fencer
Fencer: A time limit would still be there..but IF everyone moved before then..then the game would progress. I guess that is your meaning Chuck?

22. December 2004, 13:37:27
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Thanks Fencer
Czuch Chuckers: But it could make problems for people who expect a regular deadline and couldn't make it in time to submit a new move.

22. December 2004, 13:35:49
Stevie 
Subject: Re: Thanks Fencer
Czuch Chuckers:
I like the idea of that also Chuck

22. December 2004, 13:34:49
Czuch 
Subject: Thanks Fencer
I guess I was wondering more for future games, hoping that we could play "fast" games, mabe with a small group of people currently online, where we could play many moves, or even a complete game, all in one evening.

Something like that would be possible if the next round would start immedietly when all bids are entered, like a regular game.

Maybe that would work in the future?

22. December 2004, 06:59:03
Fencer 
Czuch Chuckers: It always waits.

22. December 2004, 01:41:03
Czuch 
Yea, I thought of that too.... also, with this big group, it is very unlikely to happen anyway, I was just curious because in "normal" games it works differently than this game.

22. December 2004, 01:41:01
Vikings 
I think that game is called ebay

22. December 2004, 01:40:25
red dragon 
We could play 'run around'. Everyone change their bid 5 seconds before the deadline!

22. December 2004, 01:35:11
Thad 
Subject: Re:
Since you can now change your move, up until the deadline, it shouldn't automatically advance even if everyone has bid (IMO).

22. December 2004, 01:30:25
Czuch 
Fencer.
If everyone makes a "move" before the two day limit, will the next round be started, or does it always wait for the end of the two days?

21. December 2004, 23:49:37
Czuch 
Subject: BBW
Like I tried to say earlier....

I dont think this first game is anything like a typical game will play out. One thing that makes this game different is that not everybody makes a move on every turn. So now, people are making plays based on factors like people forgeting to make a move, where in a 'normal' game that strategy would not work.


I look forward to playing this game with fewer people, who all know the rules etc...

It should be different than this one now :)

21. December 2004, 20:04:39
Fencer 
What graphs?

21. December 2004, 18:38:19
coan.net 
I like the rules how they are - I mean part of the game is to try to get yourself into a position where you can take advantage of the 500 point bonus.

21. December 2004, 18:34:47
Blackadder Mr K 
Subject: Graphs !?
What happend to the graphs?
Is that to come in v # 2?

21. December 2004, 18:06:10
pauloaguia 
Subject: Re: End game bonuses.
I don't agree with the 4th option... The rest of the players would all have the same rating then which probably wouldn't be fair...

21. December 2004, 17:29:37
andreas 
Subject: Re: End game bonuses.
Here is a 4th option:

- game finished and the leading person declared a winner

21. December 2004, 17:12:08
WhisperzQ 
Subject: End game bonuses.
Been thinking about the end scenario posted earlier where the leading person has say 510 points left and everyone else is under 500, then they can bid 500 points, win the bonus and go nowhere ... hereare 3 options which solve this dilemma:

- the bonus is 500 points or 25% of the person with the most points left at the beginning or the round, whichever is the less amount; or

- the bonus is dicontinued when when all players have less than 1000 points left; or

- no player may win the bonus 2 times in a row. If this would be the case then the bonus is not awarded.

21. December 2004, 17:03:39
WhisperzQ 
There will be some, but will you be one of them ... need guts for that (said the chicken to the egg :)

21. December 2004, 15:35:37
coan.net 
Subject: My thoughts on the game
Hum... this game is tricky. Last round I thought I made a pretty low bet (11) since I knew others were "betting" on the fact that some that bet "1" in round 2 would forget to get and fall into the pond.

But now...... Are there STILL going to be people who bet in the single digits, or will some bets start to go higher......

21. December 2004, 15:11:38
Hrqls 
*snap* i cant put another message when i edit my bet :)

21. December 2004, 15:10:14
Hrqls 
nice!!! ... and graphs ??? thats what made me become a rook ... ;)

21. December 2004, 15:05:20
Fencer 
Yes, something like that.

21. December 2004, 15:04:06
Hrqls 
ah stats!!! like the average bet in previous rounds ? the max bet and the min bet ? and the max and min bet averaged over all rounds ? ;)

21. December 2004, 14:23:50
Stevie 
I noticed the new additions a mo ago :oD

21. December 2004, 14:22:54
Fencer 
Now you can edit your move before the round is finished. Some more statistics will follow soon.

21. December 2004, 14:21:22
Stevie 
It will be visible after 17:00 gmt. Look up at board description

21. December 2004, 12:56:30
MadMonkey 
nooooooooooooo Pedro, its fallen in the pond ROFL (its Christmas you know, time of make believe)

21. December 2004, 12:47:11
Pedro Martínez 
MM - somebody hidden must've posted here

21. December 2004, 12:22:36
MadMonkey 
hmmmm it says there is a new post here, well i cant see it, must have fallen in the pond LOL

20. December 2004, 23:48:55
Czuch 
Fencer...

If by chance everyone in the game happens to make a "move" before the time limit expires, will the next round be automatically started right then, or does it always wait until the end of the two days?

19. December 2004, 20:33:26
Jason 
Subject: yes vikings
i was one of those people who made a bet then looked at what people had done on the round before , thats why i brought it up on here a few days ago so other people wouldnt make the same mistake that i made ;)

19. December 2004, 18:00:36
Eriisa 
Subject: One Global Moderator View
Modified by Eriisa (19. December 2004, 18:44:08)
Steve is the moderator on this board. He chose to not extend a 20 minute time limit to edit posts before pentalties being enforced. That is his choice. He also apparently choice to remove all the posts relating to it, and that is his choice.

Please, let it ALL drop and just chalk it up to "don't do that again"

*edited to remove any mention of who this is related to*

19. December 2004, 17:58:14
Stevie 
no chances. hidden again

19. December 2004, 17:57:57
Rose 
Come on man this has nothing to do with The POND. You also said it would be the last of it. Take it to private please.

19. December 2004, 17:57:37
Milioi 
I don't feel that Czuch Chuckers said abything abusing... Since when it is forbidden to tell own opinion?
I know, thit doesn't bellow to the topic of this board, but I couldn't stay without reaction... it's just my opinion, nothing against anyone here...

19. December 2004, 17:46:52
Stevie 
Subject: chuck
Do you really not know how to learn a lesson?
Remove anything you have said that knocks this board moderator. Or you get a second strike

19. December 2004, 17:41:54
Fencer 
BBW: Yes, this bug has been brought to my attention by Pedro Martinez several hours ago :-) It's already fixed and the next round should be correct.

19. December 2004, 17:36:52
Czuch 
good eye BBW

19. December 2004, 17:32:14
Czuch 
Subject: Just one more to set the record straight...
Modified by Czuch (19. December 2004, 18:04:30)
I feel I need to say this, because I have been made out to be the fool ** *** ********.

1st, I was asked to edit out the words Ignorant and Idiot and stupid from the posts where I said something like "anyone who would pick 1 in the first round is ignorant of the rules", for example. I apologized for this, and went about editing those posts where those words were used. what you werent told is that I apologized for these comments and I did edit those words as requested., Even though I did edit the posts myself, I was still put on hide, so my edits could not be seen by anyone here. Then before my posts were unhidden, they were all edited (not by me) to read *********** like that. Now nobody knows what I actually said, or what I edited on my own, not to mention this was also done to my apology. Anyway, I just want everyone to know what really happened here. I am again, sorry if hurt anyones feelings. I only want to discuss this game and its strategy. will not be the one to bring this up again, and I hope no one else does either :)

19. December 2004, 17:28:55
coan.net 
Not that it is a big deal, but the game still shows 6 players in the 1st position, when only 2 players are in 1st. (and others are messed up a little like this throughout the order.) :-)

19. December 2004, 16:50:53
Czuch 
Subject: Hi all.
I am not sure why my post apologizing to anyone offended by my comments yesterday was edited to read *************** by the moderator? I am sorry if anyone took offense to my comments about anyone who would bid 1 in the first round of this game. It was not politically correct of me, and my choice of the word "ignorant" could be taken offensivly by some. I meant no harm to anyone. I am truely interested in discussing the strategies of this game, as I am new to playing it, as are many others here.

I still dont understand why anyone would bid 1 on the first round. But the question becomes what is a safe first round bid? I dont see that there is one, really. I mean, If you know nobody will pick one, because its sure defeat (unless it is in a game of rookies like this one was) Now, if you know nobody will take a 1, then a pick of 2 becomes the 'dead mans" bet. Why would you now choose 2? Well.... you can see where this leads..... nobody wants 2 either, so 3 becomes the next dead mans guess. Where does it end? 5? 10? 50? 100?

anywho, I just want to discuss the ins and outs of this game, as the dinamics are fascinating to me.

19. December 2004, 16:46:38
Vikings 
some people that have read this board had strange bets

19. December 2004, 16:44:43
Eriisa 
I would not be surprised to find that many people have not found this board yet.

19. December 2004, 16:33:34
Czuch 
8976 is the minimum bet to guarantee not to fall into the pond this round!

19. December 2004, 16:05:40
Czuch 
Nor the rules either :)

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