biggooner: wow...I guess checker playing is an O'Brien trait :-)

biggooner: It's apples and oranges...they play a different game and try to pass it off as checkers

Purple: There is a place called the real world where people actually sit across a board from their opponent and play a game or two of checkers. Not all games are played on computers, or with computers, for that matter.

Purple: The KM members who beat those programs did so because they were using those programs

Purple: She denied me

Because misunderstandings can occur......I am too stubborn to resign an obvious draw against someone who is so small minded to not accept one. I resent the insinuation that the game on gt is anything more than that.

Manuel M: Yes,I'm stubborn...I resent your other insinuation

david upshaw: I offered a draw in January of 2002. He refused. Rules of the game say one can only offer a draw once. He waits til the last minute before he's to time out then he moves the game. He has timed out the maximum number of times allowed. That game is the only reason I still visit that site.

A draw may be obvious to the whole world but if one player refuses there is usually no justifiable recourse. Fencer intervened and that is admirable. Apparently that is NOT the case on Goldtoken where a game of checkers between NLStardust (me) and 3334 has been tediously played for almost 7 years.

david upshaw:   checkers?  

Purple:

Anjil: Wow! Leave it to the Canadians!! Is there nothing we can't do!

Gabriel Almeida: Thank you but I was agreeing with Mysterio619! And it's easy to see when you've been on the inside lol

Mysterio619: here here!!

david upshaw: I think you would be surprised at how much it does happen because there are people who have made cheating the actual game.

Gr☺uch☺: Yes,I see what you're saying and I agree to a degree. It's just that some people cheat, lie or steal to be at the top of the chart. They aren't there because they are the best at their particular game. I guess it's finding a balance between playing for fun and playing for 'points'.
What has turned me off is the fact that a person's true rating isn't known because of the players who cheat the system.

Why is bkr so important anyway? We are not all on an even playing field. Ever since I learned of the many many people (or should I say accounts) that cheat to boost their ratings,my bkr means nothing to me. I know that if I play a few select friends who I know are not using programs or multiple nics to boost their rating that whether I win,lose or draw,I'm satisfied with a good game played.
whatever happened to playing for the fun of it?

Gabriel Almeida: Capital idea!
oops...I forgot,we're not voting

Gabriel Almeida: The discussion was about this board's moderators. Since it's been almost a month since one of the moderators has been online,I was wondering if it was known if he was returning or not. If he isn't planning to return perhaps another moderator could be appointed to replace him. Just my two cents

Nomad hasn't been online since the 16th of October. Is he returning?

I started playing a checkers game on Goldtoken almost 5 years ago (Oct 23,2001). On the 21st of January 2002 I offered a draw and was denied. That was at move # 31.
We are now up to move # 146. A third party interfered and asked Badger to declare a draw. Badger messaged me and I declined the draw...Let's say I can be stubborn ;-)

Purple: Do they play in the real world as well or just the internet like your group?

I would like to wish all who will be competing the best of luck in the English GAYP Championship being held in London this coming weekend!

gooner: Yes,it's good to see hard work and dedication pay off in the only way to test one's true ability! Congratulations to the winner!

Checkers is more than a child's game. It is a game that tests one's competitiveness and skill.
With the introduction of computer programming,the best and only way-IMO-to determine who can beat whom is through one on one ,face to face ,play.
This is,and can be,achieved through tournament play such as the one taking place in Scotland as we speak. :-)

DMatt: Funnier how someone felt they had to open a bogus account to point out something that means nothing.

Mods are chosen by Fencer. Co-mods are assigned by the main mod. Nuff said.

Wh ydoes 'published play' have to come into account in every checker game? I've seen people lose sure wins because of human error or time out. Not everyone who plays online games consults a database of former games to determine if the game is a win or a loss. That would take the FUN out of playing,wouldn't it?

Yes,pro checkers would be an excellent addition to this site

Gotta agree with Ed on this one lol

How can playing via computer program be satisfying to the competitive spirit?
I can understand using one to test one's own competence but not to use one in place of play.

APolaris: I know one of the names you listed and was informed he was using a program. Because that's second hand info I won't say who but this person can very easily be distracted from play.

A very happy birthday to our wonderful Chief! May you be blessed with many many more!! Chief,you're the Best (even if we still haven't found a volunteer to jump out of your cake!)
p.s. I will have a drink for you...Cocktail hour is upoun us! ;-) LOL
TNP!! YFA!

hmmm Sounds interesting Lobogal! Perhaps the Playboy Channel could pounce on the movie rights. Afterall they aren't so concerned with overall plot or ...um...great script writing! Perhaps such a film would give the players in this little drama the outlet they require! :-)

Okay okay,Darren you are in charge of blowing up the balloons (as long as they look like checker boards) and no blow up dolls,please (I don't want a repeat of the last party)....<gets busy writing notes in notepad while shaking head and muttering>

You mean we have less than 2 weeks to plan the social event of the year??? OMG Where to start? hmmm ok,I'll make the cake.
Oh,and so as not to be off topic,I'm going to decorate it with checker pieces and the frosting will be red and black and there won't be any chess pieces on it and the winner of the tournament gets to jump out of it! yeah!! that's it! How's that for staying on topic on the checker board? ;-) LOL

I've beaten my 9 yr old by telling him we were playing giveaway checkers then towards the end 'reminding' him that we were playing checkers! I know,I'm a mean Mama but ya gotta be cruel to be kind ;-)

Actually,it's a word I learned from my Grade 6 Teacher,Mr. Cluet. hmmm with a teacher like that no wonder I ain't smart! ;-) LOL

I underkestumble what it is you are stumbling over :) ty

highly skilled? I have just one thing to say.....gulp!

Good idea Chief (directing the DB back to checkers )
Perhaps Fencer could start a Discussion Board for Obsessed people??? Perhaps a Daycare Center?? ;-)
Looking forward to Usurper sharing some of his knowledge with us...me? I'll pretend to understand! :-)

The members of the Killing Machine Fellowship proudly wear the KM logo as a sign of respect and comraderie that the KM has become known for. Our members have made friends as well as enemies in our tenure and although the friends outnumber the others 1000-1 , it appears that the 'one' is probably a little envious of our reputation and would like to join us. We,at KM are selective in our membership drives and not just anyone can make the final cut. Unfortunately there are some who,having not made the final cut choose to wear our logo,anyway. Therefore if you are playing a game against a KM,to be sure of the players authenticity as a true KM,just check our Fellowship membership. For all others wearing the KM logo,it'll simply mean...Keep Moving! :-)