Pawns get to play upto 20 games. They can play in only a single tournament at a time.

Rooks get to create fellowships and start tournaments.
They get to play 1,000,000 games and join 1,000,000 tournaments.

The Knight cannot create even a single fellowship or tournament.
The Knight can play upto 50 games - only 2½ times as many games as a Pawn.
The Knight can participate in only ONE tournament at a time per game type. [In theory that's over 70 tournaments but for a Knight who only plays one type of game that means only one tournament - same as a Pawn. Or if they play two games types, only twice what a Pawn is allowed]

Yet the fee for a Knight is over 60% of the Rook's.
Is this fair?

I'm going to join a tournament to see if I can win a Rook membership. With 125 players it so far and another month before it starts, the chance of several snails and turtles playing is extremely high. So this tournament could last, what, a year?

That means that for the next year, perhaps, I will be unable to play games in any another tournament because I'll mostly be waiting for others to play their games.

The Knight gets on the order of twice what a Pawn gets.
The Rook gets everything possible.

The Pawn pays nothing.
Yet the fee for a Knight is over 60% of the Rook's.
How can this be fair?

I suggest, at the least, that Knights should have a higher limit on games and tournaments. And not per game type but overall. A player who wishes only to play chess variations, or line games, or backgammon types should not be penalised because of that choice.

Thats strange, where has that last persons message gone, the one that was agreeing with me.........was it just DELETED by someone????

Fencer: I think what Alison would like to hear (explicitly) is that her existing Knightly referalls will be taken care of when you change the system.

And now on to my own Knightly gripes, lol....

Fencer: Just but i still lose 100 brains regardless of whether you are changing your referral programme or not, im not going to get those 100 brains am i?

Princess Alison: Of course it doesn't. But since I want to replace it soon, it makes no sense to change it now.

Fencer: Yes, but that doesnt sort the current brain referral problem out does it

Princess Alison: Cannot you be just a little more patient and wait for the new system which I am talking about?

Fencer: Im sorry Fencer but i still think it is wrong. Somebody has been awarded 100 brains without doing anything. I have quite a few people on my friends list who are looking to become paying members,, but if they go for Rook i wont get anything, nothing tiddly poop, but YOU get your money, so i am not asking for much am i????

Maxxina: No.

Maxxina: Its a farce if u ask me

Princess Alison: Once again - the new system will reveal much more options.

If you bought a horse again , you can add a brain to yourself Alison

Referrign to recent comment about the brain referral programme. Is it really right, that a person who didnt make a referral is allowed to receive the BRAINS that i wasnt allowed to have??????????????????

My head turned red when i realised that pretty soon after i wrote that. I will became soon brain rook. Why i use that way, one might ask. That why that my dad is little bit paranoid maybe with his credit card.

Salkkuman: Why do you think it wouldn't work from Finland? The listed countries are only examples :-)

" 1) After some experiments and successful transactions from several countries (United States, Germany, Slovakia, South Africa) I am glad to announce a new way of payments on BrainKing which can be used especially by people who don't have a credit card or a PayPal account. Please read the Section 4 - Wire Transfer (International) for details. "
Does this mean that from finland you can not pay like this. If mean it truly mean that from bank from finland? Why so it should be pretty same which bank the money comes from, should't it?

Grim Reaper: Thank you

I would just like to say thank you to Wellywales for his kind words. He did not have to write or should i say type them, he did because he feels just as strongly about the naff brainking referral programme as i , and many others do. I really think it should be reviewed.

Andre Faria: WellyWales and to remind Fencer to add the brains to my account, they werent automatically added.

wellywales: It should be working!

Andre send me a message with the user name and ID of the person who referred your ID please.

Andre Faria: NO! not automatically I had to ask by e-mail

Is the brains system working? A new BK member refered my ID in the subscribing form, but the brains weren´t added to my account...

It should be known that Princess Alison has encouraged 3 people to sign up this month including myself, she has charm and is a pleasure to play games with, I feel let down that she is punished because one of the signers chose a rook membership, Alison has helped this site and should be awarded more for this not less, I am sure others would agree and encourage there opinions and support foe Alison, I would not blame Alison if she did not encourage others to join from now on.

Grim Reaper: I think i should be rewarded at least something , or am i being selfish LOL

Princess Alison: I think a Knight should be made a Bishop if they refer a Rook.

bwildman:

I think its totally unfair, that i was able to refer somebody to by membership, which they did, but i dont get any brains for it

Fencer: I am soooo slooooo

Fencer : Yes , i do !

Maxxina: You don't really expect an exact answer, do you?

playBunny: I've always been a Rook,so never gave it much thought. But the wording in the "brains" discription,is a little unclear.

ok , now it brings a question , when new system will be activated . days - weeks , months ?

playBunny: No, it doesn't. The new system will reveal much more options.

bwildman: I agree. The Brains are a rewards system intended to create more accounts. It undermines its own purpose if it is unrewarding.

If some knight will get you maharadza , he will receive nothing as with rook ?

Fencer: since Knights"qualify for the referral program" why wouldnt they recieve brain points?

Fine, I want 400 tomorrow.

Fencer: If a knight is able to get someone to buy a rook membership, I would think it would be good to at least give them some brains. Maybe 75% of what a rook would get would be good.

Otherwise a Knight might try harder to get the person to only get a knight membership themself - which of course a rook would be beter for the site.

wellywales: Yes. It's the rule.

Rose: OK Rose, what is the answer to my Question? if it is zero, is that fair?

Rose: Exactly, no mention of a Knight earning anything for a new Rook.

BuilderQ: each paying user of BrainKing.com (i.e. everybody with Brain Knight or higher level) can join our referral program. He/she earns a given amount of Brains for each new paying user that refers to him/her on the How to pay page. This is the list of all possibilities:

* Brain Knight - earns 25 Brains for new six-months Brain Knight or 50 Brains for one-year Brain Knight.
* Brain Rook/Maharajah - earns 25 Brains for new six-months Brain Knight, 50 Brains for one-year Brain Knight or six-months Brain Rook, 100 Brains for one-year Brain Rook, 2000 Brains for six-months Brain Maharajah and 5000 Brains for one-year Brain Maharajah.

So can I assume that is an explanation as to why I lose some of my games? ;)

My interpretation of the Brains page is that you have to be a Rook to get anything for referring a new Rook. So tell your friends to choose Knight instead. :)

wellywales: it looks like 100....for one year rook

If you are a Brian Knight and you refer somebody to join BK and they take out a Brain Rook, how many brain points do you get?

Beren the 32nd: It depends on what you mean by "aid". If you mean to help you plan and play your moves then you should only do it with the express permission of your opponent (most will probably say no but a really strong player may not mind). If you mean using a program to explore a game that you've finished playing then there can be no reasonable objection. If you want to analyse moves during a game (but after you play each move, of course) then you must ask yourself whether it helps further your strategy. In Chess (ie. your game area) I would suggest that it does.

If you mean can you find a book or website and study up on an interesting stratagem then again it's a question of conscience: Is it materially helping you in a current game and could mean a win or draw that you would otherwise not have had? Then perhaps it's gaining an unfair advantage. I say "perhaps" because there will be times when you gain some knowledge "inadvertantly" (eg. while learning about a different idea) and you shouldn't be having agonies over it being unfair. There are other reasons for that "perhaps" but I can't express them properly at the moment. I'm for bed!

Have fun!
:-)


Others may disagree. ;-)

Beren the 32nd: Game Guidelines:

NO CHEATING. This includes using outside programs to help play and losing on purpose for the goal of boosting ratings. Your account may be banned, and ratings will be removed.