Andersp: You mean before my first move? Can you switch it back off after you put it on - in the middle of a game, for instance?

srnity: But remember to ask your opponent for permission to use it 

srnity: All of them.
Settings / Game Filter.

Fencer: Good to know - for ALL Stairs, then, even "dotted" ones? May I ask where do I go to get info to sign up for autopass?

Fencer: thanks :)

Andersp: Yes. If both players have the autopass set on their Settings page, the game will be played with it.

Fencer: Did you make any decisions yet?

Luke Skywalker: Why not use auto-pass for fisher-timed games?

I mean I guess I always try to play for win/loss, and not timeout of my opponent - so if an auto-pass can help keep a game going even if it's fisher-timed game, I can only see that as a disadvantage to those who try to wait until their opponent is off-line to play their move in the hopes to get them to time out.... which I guess is one way of doing things but what is the point of playing games if you are not going to let your opponent move? OK, sorry... i'm getting off on a tangent.... I try to not even play fisher-timed games anyway...

Fencer: actually, no. You can as well go to sleep and relax, leaving the game sitting when it's your turn ..

except - I agree with you for fisher-time games. Also hexkid's automover doesn't move in those games.

BIG BAD WOLF: Wrong. I won't be happy because the autopass would force me to make a move again instead of going to sleep and relax for several hours before you log in to make the pass move manually.

Luke Skywalker: I was about to write almost the exact same thing on this discussion on Feature Request, but decided to read the other boards before replying - and you said almost exactly what I was thinking also.

For example - I like to use AutoPass, and Fencer does not - we have a game together - if Fencer makes a move, and goes to me - let the system autopass it (if it can) and give it back to Fencer to make a move. In this way, Fencer is happy that he does not have to use autopass, and I'm happy because I can use autopass.

Anyway, the exact 3 things you listed is exactly what I would love to see also. Even though I don't like the idea of an opponent being able to just write " . " as a message to mess me up since you know there will be a few users who just like to cause problems who would do that.... but that can be a suggestion later down the road - to autopass even if there is a new message (with the reply of "Opponenet autopassed without reading last message" sent back) - but again, that suggestion can wait for now.

Luke Skywalker: Very well.

Luke Skywalker: Yeah, I agree with Luke here. I had always imagined autopass as a player attribute and not an attribute of a game. After all, how could a player object against his opponent using autopass? From a player's point of view there's no difference between a pass made automatically, or a pass made by a quick player.

Fencer: why so complicated?

Instead of an option in the invitation, which makes it difficult for stairs, tournaments, and impossible to change for running games, I suggest:

• An option in the settings for each player: use autopass (yes/no)
  
• In a game show whether the opponent uses autopass
  
• A player can prohibit an opponent's autopass by sending a game message (as already implemented)
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As you might have noticed, we have recently introduced the auto pass feature for backgammon games. When a player accepts a game invitation, he can choose if he agrees to play with auto pass or not.
However, this system doesn't work with Stairs because there are no invitations to accept/reject. There are two possible solutions of the problem:

• All Stairs games will be played with auto pass by default. Who joins Stairs, must accept this rule.
• Players will be able to specify whether they want to play Stairs games with the auto pass or not. Then, when a new Stairs game is created, it will use the auto pass feature only if both players have this option set to "accept".

Comments?

~Tommes Pommes~: If someone challenges you (which you can only be challenged by 1 person at a time), the game will automatically start - so no, there is no way to decline a stair game.

Hello, if someone invites me to a stair-game - can I say No to the invite or must I accept it?

BIG BAD WOLF: I was in a stair but went out of it when I see. that I can't challenge every player.
But I think the answer before yours is a good help: "...challange anyone in your step that isn't currently involved in a stairs match..."
But thanks for your help!

Tommes_Pommes: I'm looking at your profile, and don't see you involved in any stairs. Are you currently retired or something?

you should be able to challange anyone in your step that isn't currently involved in a stairs match or resigning from the stairs.

Why can't I choose any player from my step?

whirlybabe: I don't want to create more public stairs but there is a possibility to make any kind of stairs in fellowships.

Could there be 3-wins stairs, please?

alanback: My "crime" was that i said something about Fencer's autopasspromise..i deleted that post

Fencer: What's off topic about "Yup"?

Fencer: sorry, this board should of course be as much on topic as BrainKing.com is

Andersp: No off topic please. This board is about Stairs.

Andersp: I mean, tomorrow it will be 14 days.

Fencer: yup

Andersp: 14 days.

Czuch Czuckers: I just checked...our last game was finished dec 30..so i guess it should be ok tomorrow

How come in these stairs Very Fast Fischer's Stairs Andersp cannot invite me to a game?

Thanks Picasso1012

aaru: nooooooo dont display our game, i will get laughed at LOL

Fast Stairs
Small Pente
Pente (xmas is soon vs. aaru)
;)
thx

aaru: I've signed up, but haveny a clue how to play it lol

I'm waiting for opponents

Slow Stairs
http://brainking.com/pl/Stairs?trg=3&tri=192
http://brainking.com/pl/Stairs?trg=3&tri=164
http://brainking.com/pl/Stairs?trg=3&tri=193

Standard
http://brainking.com/pl/Stairs?trg=2&tri=116

Fast
http://brainking.com/pl/Stairs?trg=1&tri=43

WellyWales: Excuse me, i wasnt and havent gone running to Fencer, i was merely asking how it could be done.

xmas is soon: Do you mean me? I will remove myself, no need to run to Fencer...I am sorry about that, you can be on top now

Vikings: OK i will pm Fencer. The ex-player cant remove himself becasue hhe isnt in the feloowship anymore. Thanks for your advice anyway

scratch that, I didn't read it right, the only 2 ways I know to remove them from the stair would be to 1. pm them and ask them to remove themselves. or 2. ask fencer

xmas is soon: on the main page of the fellowship, right under the player list there is a box for removal of members

I have somebody on a top stair, who is no longer in my fellowship, how can i remove them?

playBunny: thats good

playBunny: I second that one

pauloaguia: Simplest rule of all. Timeout on the bottom step and you're off the Stairs.

pauloaguia: I was talking about how people are saying things about being informed when there are challenges available, without having to go to that list and check.

rod03801: There's a link on the Stairs page that displays only the Stairs you're in. If you can make a challenge in any one of them, that Stair is displayed differently...
Or are you talking about fellowships? I wouldn't know how those are displayed, then... :/

MadMonkey: I suggested a year ago or so, having a red number in parentheses next to the Stairs link, that would be clickable. This number would be the number of stairs you are in where you can make a challenge. When clicking on it, it would take you to your personal list of stairs. (The same page you get when clicking "Show me my Stairs Only"), where you would see those you can make a challenge in, in bold.
Obviously, there will be occasions (relatively rare, I imagine) that you click on this number, and there may no longer be a challenge available. I guess that depends on how often that red number can be updated. I imagine pretty quickly, since the other red numbers are updated instantly.