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<< < 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 > >> 17. Septembro 2007, 19:35:01 Temo: Re: I didn't take them to the vet srnity: I agree but I am a bit over protective..but a sanke bite,yes,I would definatly take it...what if it had a reaction to the venom....BUT....lol...Tuesday is right..when I was growing up,sure I liked our dogs and stuff but we never had one long enough to get attched to it because it wasn't treated like family..it was just as she said,something that ran around the yard,sometimes ran off for days at a time,never really felt they were part of the family.NOW though...OMG,if my dog runs towards an open front door I panick that what if they get out and run off,lol...The way my parents acted towards animals was not cool. 17. Septembro 2007, 03:17:10 Temo: Re: I didn't take them to the vet Tuesday: Maybe it's just me, but if my pet animal got bit by ANY wild animal (snake or otherwise), I'd take it to the vet, or at the very least consult with them on the phone about it.....  17. Septembro 2007, 01:02:13 Temo: Re: Tuesday:  Id be  in the opposite direction!17. Septembro 2007, 00:56:23 Temo: Re: Tuesday: Yes it says why but m sure I wouldnt of got close enough to check if it had eye lids! 17. Septembro 2007, 00:55:13 Temo: Re: Tuesday: Now thats interesting isnt it! I must admit if I saw one of those I probably would of thought it was a snake....not a slow worm and definately not a lizard! LOL 17. Septembro 2007, 00:45:22 Temo: Re: Tuesday: LOL poor Finch wonder if it was a slow worm? 17. Septembro 2007, 00:40:52 Temo: Re: Tuesday: Anyway it explains why I havent seen any snakes in the wild here, I live in the wrong part of the country (or the right part depending on your preference for snakes lol) 17. Septembro 2007, 00:38:30 Yes, it says this on that same site.... All of our UK snakes are completely protected under law, and it is even an offence to disturb them in some cases. 17. Septembro 2007, 00:33:18 Temo: Re: Tuesday: I really dont know??? I would have to google that lol 17. Septembro 2007, 00:25:46 Temo: Re: Tuesday: LOL yes that one caught my eye too on your link! Two heads!!! 17. Septembro 2007, 00:24:25 Dont know what happened with my link but I will try it again http://www.wildlifebritain.com/thesmoothsnake.php Thanks for your links!! lol 17. Septembro 2007, 00:18:25 heres">http://www.wildlifebritain.com/thesmoothsnake.php heres some info about the smooth snake! yay for google Aw thats cruel about the plastic easter eggs! 17. Septembro 2007, 00:14:31 Temo: Re: Tuesday: Thanks! We must of been looking at snakes at the same time!! 17. Septembro 2007, 00:12:44 Temo: Re: Modifita de Ewe (17. Septembro 2007, 00:22:01) Tuesday: Ok just looked up about snakes here as I was curious! lol We apparently have 3 species of snakes in the UK (but not Ireland)... 1.adder, poisonous, native of Scotland & has reported to have killed 10 people in last 100 years! 2. grass snake, none poisonous, mainly in the south of England 3. smooth snake, very rare, none poisonous, southern UK 17. Septembro 2007, 00:05:59 Temo: Re: Tuesday: We only have a couple of types of snakes I think...the grass snake & adder, which thinking about it I think is poisonous??? I must say though I have never seen a snake in the wild here & I love the country side. Yes I think Ireland & Newzealand are the only countries without any snakes. 16. Septembro 2007, 23:52:36 Temo: Re: Tuesday: OMG!! I think I would of fainted! We dont have any poisonous snakes here. Do you think Gracie got bitten today? Eww the head swelling part is very scary! 16. Septembro 2007, 21:21:47 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. Modifita de Ewe (16. Septembro 2007, 21:23:59) anastasia: I think its so terribly sad if ANY dog has to be destroyed if its fit & well. There are only certain exceptions when a termination is justified. My argument is they shouldnt be bred any more if there is a problem with that breed. To continue to breed means even more animals will suffer in the long term. I dont think the remaining dogs of the pitbull breed should be killed but I do think the breeding should be stopped & a ban of ownership put into place. Yes I love you too! This is a healthy & amicable discussion. I know you are a very responsible and loving dog owner, wish there were more like you (infact all)!!  (just editing my awful spelling lol) 16. Septembro 2007, 17:34:05 Temo: Re: identify the pitbull...took me 3 guesses anastasia: I failed the test. We have a pit bull in our neighbor hood and the owner has to carry insurance on it in order to have it within city limits. Sweet dog but honestly don't know if I trust it competly but the owner does his part of owning that breed. 16. Septembro 2007, 02:26:10 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. Ewe: should we terminate every last pit so that none exsist in the world anymore?? Did you read any of the links I posted?? Should we ban and kill these dogs as well?? BTW....ya know I still luv ya,right,lol...I think you are an AWESOME person to debate with  16. Septembro 2007, 02:20:18 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. Jim Dandy:  15. Septembro 2007, 19:49:57 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. Tuesday: It sadly becomes a self fulfilling prophacy.Pitbulls get a rep for being violent,so violent people start to buy them,and the well intentioned owners pay the price. 15. Septembro 2007, 19:43:23 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. anastasia: yes I do honestly understand what you are saying, and I agree with most of what you have said. Im on the same side as you with most of the issues raised but I also see & fully understand the reasons why certain dog breeds are deemed dangerous & are banned. 15. Septembro 2007, 19:31:27 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. anastasia: Well,maybe part of the problem lies in the type of owner attracted to owning a pitbull.Corvette buyers don't tend to drive 55,get my drift? I would be ignorant to think that there aren't a very large percentage of pitbulls that are very well tempered and trustworthy,but politicians aren't concerned with that.They see a breed that is usually the one involved if ever an attack occurs,imagine the fallout if they do nothing and someone is killed.It is the safe way to just outlaw the breed.I fully understand your perspective and love of pitbulls,but I also understand the thinking process that goes nto these types of decisions. 15. Septembro 2007, 14:52:00 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. Jim Dandy: I do not believe that I AM in the minority..I think the problem is..you NEVER hear about the good side of the breed..( that is why I REALLY hope you guys will take the time to read some of the links I posted).only the bad when something happens.Over the summer...my tv was flooded with stories of parents forgetting their kids in the car,kids drowning in the pools...would it be fair to say that responsible parents are the minority since all I had been hearing are the bad stories?? no.The media only shows one side of the story..because the pitbull laying lazily on the couch with the family,or playing in the wading pool just doesn't make for good news. 15. Septembro 2007, 14:46:40 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. Ewe: The problems dont just lie with any particular breed, but with the fact that absolutely anyone can own any dog (or absolutely any animal for that matter) without having any prior knowledge of how to care for them etc. THAT was perfectly said!!!! Here is a good for instance for you...our neighborhs that live behind us have a beautiful yellow lab..a bit on the chubby side,but I am no thin mint either,lol.The problem IS...if you know anything about the breed you know they are very social,very loving,very family oriented dogs...yes?? yes. They are also very high energy dogs that like to get out there and work,and run,and play and see and do and get into all kinds of fun doggy stuff,lol. Now...what if this wonderful creature was owned by very nice people BUT they never walked the dog..it only had 1 toy to play with and keep it busy.THEIR idea of spending time with him was opening up the door to the back yard,picking that ball up,throwing it,and while the dog was happily retrieveing it..they go back inside.The dog IS allowed in the house (when they remember him) BUT when it is in,it is kept in the crate.The dog is caught in this viciuos cycle now.He SHOULD be (by the breed he is) a freindly dog,BUT because he has so much pent up energy,not enough mental,physical,or sensory stimultion,he is becoming aggressive.I have gone over and worked with him and you can SEE he wants to learn,and please his people,but....so,Yes,people SHOULD have to become educated and I think A MANDATORY 6 weeks obidiance course. Oh...that is a nice dream I have huh,lol. 15. Septembro 2007, 12:52:17 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. anastasia: Yes I agree with the fact dogs are dogs, but not all dogs are equal....Id stand much more of a chance fighting a miniture poodle off than I would a doberman! I think thats the difference. As I said I totally agree with you the responsibilities lie with breeders and owners. Very good discussion aswell  15. Septembro 2007, 12:46:06 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. Jim Dandy: Thanks, yes & I think you have just echoed my thoughts with your last post too. If the breed is banned then it cant get into the wrong hands, of irrisponsible owners, and therefore those dogs wouldnt have to be destroyed. The problems dont just lie with any particular breed, but with the fact that absolutely anyone can own any dog (or absolutely any animal for that matter) without having any prior knowledge of how to care for them etc. 15. Septembro 2007, 04:51:36 Temo: We should never lose sight of why we love these crazy guys Modifita de The Col (15. Septembro 2007, 04:53:59) I wanted to jump into the screen and play with these guys.You don't need dialogue to understand their conversation in this scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLC1jgkNhc 15. Septembro 2007, 04:02:02 Temo: Re: Ontarians can't newly acquire pit bulls. Existing owners must neuter their dogs and make sure they are leashed and muzzled in public. Offenders' pit bulls must be euthanized. anastasia: The problem(as I see it) is that you are in the minority of owners who responsibly supervise and care for your aggressive dogs.Many buy them for insincere purposes(much like the gun debate) and it paints the responsible owners with the same brush.I guess they figured our streets would be safer if they only allowed poodles and other less aggressive dogs to be allowed. << < 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 > >> |
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And I agree totally with that...and,believe it or not..I CAN and DO see your side of this aguement I just want you to see mine to..as BEING a responsible dog owner,WITH 2 dogs that are already on some "to be watched lists" I'm sure you can see where this would hit home with me.But the bottom line is...If it isn't a pit..then it WILL be another breed...PERIOD..these are some sick people that we are talking about here.I mean,really...if you can do that to an animal then what might you be capible with a human?? Not only should BREEDING laws be put in place and REGULATED but people should also be educated about the breed (s) that they own.
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