Übergeek 바둑이: Because the other Arab countries think Gadaffi is a complete sadistic nutter and want him gone as well. The population of Libya want him gone, it takes attention of the rest of the countries away from their dictatorial governments.

..... The other states to 'democracise' would take more money and man power and potentially lead to another "Iraq".

"Is it just me or is Lybia the only country with oil"

With the intermix of borders I don't think it matters even if.

(V):

> With the intermix of borders I don't think it matters even if.

The point I am trying to make is how hypocritical our governments are.

Did you know that yesterday in Bahrain they passed sentence on pro-democracy protesters. 8 people were given life sentences. 15 people were given sentences ranging from 2 to 25 years. Then two weeks ago the Bahrain government tried 59 doctors and nurses behind closed doors. These medical staff were charged with crimes against the state because the hospitals they worked in were used to treat people injured by the police and the military during the crackdown. It is estimated that over 250 people "disappeared" and thousands were injured during the crackdown.

Why is it that the Nato axis did nothing about Bahrain? The answer is simple. The dictatorial king there allowed Bahrain to become the naval base for both the US and the UK in the Middle East. There are two huge naval bases there, one for the UK and one for the US. If the regime were to change, it is likely that ademocratically elected government would question whether it is appropriate to have those bases in Bahrain.

I guess the king there is not a despotic nutter, he is just a pro-western dictator, and as such he is acceptable to the Nato axis and the Empire.

As always, it is all about hypocrysy and greed. All the talk about Lybia is nothing but excuses to get that country's oil cheaply. If western governments really cared about democracy, they would have bombed Bahrain too. Not to mention Morocco, Yemen and Egypt. What a coincidence that those more "moderate" countries receive military aid from the west. Then of all the dictatorial regimes in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia is the worst. That place is so backward that they don't allow women to vote in general elections, run for office or even go unaccompanied in the street without a male relative. I don't see any Nato axis planes over Saudi Arabia, even though no country has given more money to Al Qaeda than Saudi Arabia has.

Tuesday: Leave it to Canada to put the "sexy" back into money

**In this frankly mesmerizing video, above,** ???

Australia's first plastic money was 1988 and all money was plastic by the mid-late 1990's....nothing new...

Bernice: I'll bet you've been waiting decades to say that

As of 2010, seven countries have converted fully to polymer banknotes: Australia, Bermuda, Brunei, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Romania, and Vietnam. Other countries and regions with notes printed on Guardian polymer in circulation include: Bangladesh, Brazil, Chile, Hong Kong (for a 2-year trial), Indonesia, Israel, Malaysia, Mexico, Nepal, Singapore, Solomon Islands (no longer issued), Sri Lanka, Thailand, Samoa and Zambia. Countries and regions that have issued commemorative banknotes (which are not in circulation) on Guardian polymer include: China, Taiwan, Kuwait, Northern Ireland1 and Singapore

wiki

My name isn't Jules...google and I aren't really good friends.

thanks AD...mesmerizing? not really....it just take some longer than others I guess.

Artful Dodger:

Maybe I am too thick but I see nothing wrong in what Al Gore said there. Educate women, give them a choice on how many children to have, etc. I imagine that is what a modern, intelligent society would do.

I make no assumptions, but "you have to educate girls and empower women" sounds to me like a reasonable suggestion.

I suppose we could educate women to have as many kids as the Bible says, then when those kids are hungry and poor we can have churches sell their land, building and assets to feed the poor.

Bernice: ??? You mean you don't check out things!!

Not even for on-line price comparison!!! O .... M .... G

Tuesday: Is very handy for little vids demonstrating how to do things that you've never done.... or forgotten how to do

Artful Dodger: He's not for free speech, he's not even a free speech advocate. He's just another neo con wanting his 15 minutes.

Tuesday: Price differences can vary so much. The rip-offs that some shops try and get away with is shocking!!

Artful Dodger: I'm sure you can find more details on him on the web... rather than the neo con website you read.

But hey... in the end how you perceive him is a matter of choice. To the average UK resident.. he's just another Nick Griffin.

Artful Dodger: Really.

"The main reason for Wilders's acquittal lies in his choice of words and oratory skills rather than his motives. The court held that Wilders's statements (including the movie Fitna) were about Islam (a religion, or, as Wilders has it, an ideology) and not Muslims (as individuals or as a group) and, hence, these remarks are not discriminatory or insulting. Nor did they incite hatred. It is about facts – what has been said. Motives are less relevant to the question of guilt. A strict interpretation of selected facts seems to justify the verdict. So it is OK to rant and rave against Islam, even though the subtext suggests that the ranting and raving is geared towards Muslims. As subtexts have no place in law it is back to politics again: there, subtext and intention is all that matters. But how best to resist Wilders and the populist mob?"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jun/23/geert-wilders-acquitted-incitement-hatred

Now... He got off for saying Muslims are ok as individuals, and Islam is eViL as an ideology.

So.. you are agreeing that Muslims are ok?

Artful Dodger:

> You're right. Women are too stupid to figure it out on their own. Let's get the government involved.

I don't see where Al Gore said that. He is talking about educating women. Nowhere does he say that the state should impose on women how many children they should have. Well, as always, people read something quoted out of context by somebody else. It is normal these days.

For edification purposes, I found the Games for Change Convention website:

http://www.gamesforchange.org/

According to their website:

"Founded in 2004, Games for Change is the leading global advocate for supporting and making games for social impact. We bring together organizations and individuals from the social impact sector, government, media, academia, the gaming industry and the arts to grow the field, incubate new projects and provide an open platform for the exchange of ideas and resources."

They make games that try to educate about socially important issues. For example, they have a game called EnerCities in which the player is supposed to try to balance people, the planet's environment and profit.

At the event Al Gore gave the opening keynote speech about how digital games can have a positive social impact. His speech was never about women or the government.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/35310/G4C_Al_Gore_Says_Games_Have_Clearly_Arrived_As_A_Mass_Medium.php

If the issue of women's education arose, it would have been during the Q&A period after his speech, and then at no point in time did he intimate that the state should control women's choices.

I think that when you read your blogs, you have to remember that those who blog are self-appointed experts. They give their own interpretation (good or bad) of something else.

I do agree with Al Gore. Women have to be educated and empowered and it is a woman's right to have control over her reproductive abilities. It is the only way to ensure sustainable population growth. Of course, those who criticize indiscrimantely won't see that.

Artful Dodger:

> SOME individual Muslims are ok. Islam is evil. Completely evil. Yes.

I think some religious people are OK, but in esence religion is evil, completely evil. We look at the millions who have died in religious wars and that convinces me that the problem is not just Islam but all religion. Christianity is no better because Christians have been as war like and destructive as other religions. If Islam is evil, so is Christianity and its zeal to convert others, willingly or forcibly. Those who doubt it have to look at the Inquisition, the Crusades, the conquest of the Americas, and the brutal support of Christianity for fascist dictators.

don't really have to as money isnt a problem when I want something...If I cant afford it I save until I do. I do all my bargaining face to face.

Google and I aren't friends.....we are mere aquaintances, so Im not a *fibber*

Artful Dodger: A percentage to give depth to "some" would be better.

As to Islam being evil. If that is based on acts, then what is good? We sided with them against the Russians and called them 'freedom fighters'. Then they were the 'good guys'.

Bernice:


"I do all my bargaining face to face."

I do both. Online and face to face. But that the same item can vary (eg pool) by about £35 shows the reliance some shops on people being lazy with money. And that is not generally part of the British psyche. I've noticed that there are seasons to the prices on some items, which suggests that at 'peak' season time... we are being ripped off. Especially after the bank situation...

I object to that.

Let's cut it with the name calling. It has been deleted, and all references back to it have been deleted. Thank you

Artful Dodger: he is a TWIT...how can you have someone in charge of a country like the US ofA that is so obviously incompetant....don't you feel glad AD that you didn't vote him in?