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22. Oktobro 2012, 22:30:15
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: The worlds oldest dad is not made of wicker. He is a flesh and blood human being, and his wife and two sons are real people too.
(V): [ Yes, they'd be comparing him to Mr Charlie Chaplin ]

Maybe, but I have no doubt that Social Service agencies would investigate to determine whether or not the children should become wards of the state or given to a younger couple.

In India they are being honored. But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children. How do I know this? Because I've seen it happen to real people, in real time, and not on some internet page. And in spite of your clever *cough* attempt to make what I say appear to mean something else, the same group of people who attempt to gain access to other people's money are the ones most actively involved in disrupting other people homes and families.

22. Oktobro 2012, 22:41:55
Mort 
Temo: Re: God can only be our father if we so choose. Jesus made that clear when he told some religious leaders that Satan was their father.
Iamon lyme: Satan.... You mean our animal nature, or some strange man made construct adopted from various inputs... ya know, Greek/Roman/Zoroastrian/etc?

"Do you need for me to show you where in the Bible it says that?"

Do I need to show you what I mean?

22. Oktobro 2012, 22:45:51
Mort 
Temo: Re: But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children.
Iamon lyme: But you want control of the Children.

"And in spite of your clever *cough* attempt to make what I say appear to mean something else, the same group of people who attempt to gain access to other people's money are the ones most actively involved in disrupting other people homes and families."

The Banks.. I can agree with that. Nice to know you've seen the light somewhat

23. Oktobro 2012, 00:41:10
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children.
(V): Still trying to run end plays around what I say. Mindset and methodology... most revealing.

23. Oktobro 2012, 00:46:29
Mort 
Temo: Re: But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children.
Iamon lyme: Not around... through. Some of it relates to your certificate.

Don't worry, everyone in the civilised world has one. It doesn't make you special!!

23. Oktobro 2012, 01:57:38
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re:But the vast majority of abortion are only horror stories to the unborn.
(V):" so everyone concerned feels nothing.."
*Um, what do you mean by this?

" especially considering the development of the nervous system,"
*Do you mean in the unborn child? Explain

" all the indications are that those that who are actually living as independent beings will feel more."
*explain

23. Oktobro 2012, 02:12:40
Papa Zoom 

23. Oktobro 2012, 06:37:38
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children.
(V): [ Not around... through. Some of it relates to your certificate. Don't worry, everyone in the civilised world has one. It doesn't make you special!! ]

say what?

[ The Banks.. I can agree with that. ]

Me wasn't talking about "The Banks". You no know what me say?

[ Satan.... You mean our animal nature, or some strange man made construct...]

No, me no mean what you say me say, me mean say what me say me say. You no know what me say by the way? What you know me not say and what you say me say is no same as me say what me say. No, me not buy that... me say you know me not say same as you say me say... so there.

23. Oktobro 2012, 06:40:01
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re: But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children.
Iamon lyme: Obama was a jerk at the debates tonight. What a lying scum bag of a prez.

23. Oktobro 2012, 07:14:08
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children.
Artful Dodger: I managed to see most of the debate this time. Romney did better, Obama about the same as last time. I appreciated the fact that in this debate it didn't look as much like a free for all, with the moderator and Obama on one side and Romney on the other. The first two debates were a joke, but tonight's debate looked more like a real debate.

I've become so used to hearing the president lie that it doesn't bother me anymore... I was more interested in hearing what Romney had to say, and watching the expression on Obama's face as Romney was talking.

23. Oktobro 2012, 07:15:55
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re: But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children.
Iamon lyme: Obama is such a liar. I wonder if he believes his own nonsense.

23. Oktobro 2012, 07:47:06
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children.
Artful Dodger: I wonder the same thing. I think he does believe that no one really builds up his own business, because he personally has been propped up and helped along the way. His choice of ideology, party affiliation, church, the city he chose to live in and what state he represented, what he wanted people to think of him when writing his books, etc etc ... even going back to when he first got a social securty card so he could apply for his first job... it shows a clear pattern of how he was able to get things done for himself.

Anyway, the whole truth will eventually come out, but not before his presidency is far enough behind him for it to be too great of an embarassment for the Democratic party. Like say, oh, maybe a hundred years from now?

23. Oktobro 2012, 08:00:19
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children.
Iamon lyme: Correction, I meant to say:

"...is far enough behind him for it to NOT be too great of an embarrassment..."

23. Oktobro 2012, 14:02:37
Mort 
Temo: Re:But the vast majority of abortion are only horror stories to the unborn.
Artful Dodger: The mother to be feels nothing, the father to be (if it's a normal relationship) feels nothing... so you are saying

"Do you mean in the unborn child? Explain"

Basic biology.. look it up yourself.

23. Oktobro 2012, 14:05:08
Mort 
Temo: Re: No, me no mean what you say me say, me mean say what me say me say.
Iamon lyme: And we shall call you Bruno... "know what I mean Harry"

23. Oktobro 2012, 16:08:24
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re: But if they lived in the US, they would undoubtedly be criticised by the same people who try running end plays around parents to gain control of their children.
Iamon lyme: They definitely want to suppress the truth about the ONE. Even the ONE wants to do that. Hence all the stonewalling etc.

23. Oktobro 2012, 16:09:42
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re:But the vast majority of abortion are only horror stories to the unborn.
(V): feels nothing about killing their child?

And the baby feels tremendous pain in an abortion.

23. Oktobro 2012, 16:29:06
Mort 
Temo: Re:feels nothing about killing their child?
Artful Dodger: Really... if you want to think that, go ahead. It makes your case easier for you to 'be the moral one' .... ... that it has nothing to do with real life is irrelevant to you.

"And the baby feels tremendous pain in an abortion."

At what age of development? Please get your basic facts right, it stops all this BS.

23. Oktobro 2012, 16:31:04
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re:feels nothing about killing their child?
(V): killing the unborn has nothing to do with real life?

23. Oktobro 2012, 16:40:26
Mort 
Temo: Re:feels nothing about killing their child?
Artful Dodger: Is the BS about pain ended?

23. Oktobro 2012, 19:12:47
The Col 
Temo: Debate
Big debate win for Obama, better to finish the debate schedule on a high note.

23. Oktobro 2012, 19:32:11
Bwild 
Temo: Re: Debate
The Col: I didnt see it that way. seemed to me mitt walked thru yomommas bs about the "lies" and has a great outlook on middle east strategy..
just getting rid of yommama care will be a big feather in OUR countries cap.
not to mention small business reforms that will be a economic boost to OUR country.

23. Oktobro 2012, 20:01:12
The Col 
Temo: Re: Debate
Modifita de The Col (23. Oktobro 2012, 20:10:51)
Bwild: Don't take my word for it, all the polls say he won fairly big.I find it interesting that both Democrats and Republicans agreed Romney won the 1st debate, but for some reason Republicans can not stomach the admission Romney might lose a debate, regardless of the polls overwhelming results pointing that way.

Fox News poll on who won last nights debate

Obama 53.19%


Mitt Romney 46.81%

23. Oktobro 2012, 20:23:42
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: Debate
Bwild: Mitt impressed me right from the start of the debate. He was the first to talk, and Obama wasted no time interrupting him and cutting into Mitts two minute time limit. Mitt wasn't a bit fazed by this, almost as though he was expecting it. He let it go on for a few seconds before "interrupting" the interruption and continued to talk as though nothing had happened. Losing a few seconds of his two minute time limit didn't hurt him, because it served to showed Obama's utter lack of respect and a penchant for breaking the rules. Obama is a quick study, but I think he realised too late that this last debate would be by the book.

23. Oktobro 2012, 21:20:20
The Col 
Temo: Re: Debate
Modifita de The Col (23. Oktobro 2012, 21:24:27)
Iamon lyme: "interrupting" ? I don't care which candidate you support, if you think Obama is the one most guilty of interrupting during the 3 debates you're either not paying attention or so much in the bag you have lost all objectivity

for example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXsAdBEsZw8

23. Oktobro 2012, 23:23:52
Bwild 
Temo: Re: Debate
The Col: regardless of the polls...I felt Mitt carried himself more as a President should.
yomama was always the wrong man for the job. just my opinion.

23. Oktobro 2012, 23:27:03
Bwild 
Temo: Re: Debate
Iamon lyme: quick study... the look on Obama's face the last half of the debate was that of a student listening to his teacher.
When Mitt said what he would do in the middle east really had Obamas attention. Obama knew he was out-classed.

23. Oktobro 2012, 23:30:26
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: Debate
The Col: I didn't say "during the three" debates. I was talking about last night's debate. If you were "paying attention" you would have noticed that.

Mitt came prepared for a real debate, and it was obvious Obama thought he would have the same advantage going in that he enjoyed in the first two debates. I understand that you saw something else, I get that. But I don't need you to tell me what I saw or heard because I'm able to do that for myself. So thanks for trying, but no thanks. Me big boy, me can think for myself now. LoL

23. Oktobro 2012, 23:53:30
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: Debate
Bwild: Obama looked to me more like an angry sullen student looking at his teacher, but not really listening to him. Every once in a while it seemed like he actually heard what Romney was saying. I could see both of their faces on split screen. When Obama talked his face cycled through the same expressions, angry then concerned then thoughtful then angry etc etc... but sometimes he looked lost, like he forgot where his own narrative was heading.

On split screen, Romney was always looking at Obama like he knew who he was listening to. But when Romney talked it seemed like Obama was trying to drill a hole in Romney with his patented jedi death stare. Romney must have had his shields up though, because Obama's death stare didn't faze him.

24. Oktobro 2012, 01:05:01
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re:feels nothing about killing their child?
(V): Fetal pain is not bs. Doesn't matter in the larger picture because it's morally wrong to take the life of an innocent human being without just cause.

24. Oktobro 2012, 01:20:42
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re: Debate
The Col: Dick Morris, a superb political strategist, gives the win to Romney. Romney was very effective in the debate despite being sick. Obama had several very bad moments. BTW, we still use bayonets. Duh.

24. Oktobro 2012, 01:21:44
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re: Debate
Bwild:You're right: Obummer lied and then lied some more. He has no shame.

24. Oktobro 2012, 01:31:10
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re: Debate
The Col: Anyone can vote in those polls. They are basically meaningless. That was an online poll.

Here's a poll that has Mitt winning: http://www.therightscoop.com/poll-who-won-the-3rd-and-final-presidential-debate-tonight-between-mitt-romney-and-president-obama/

24. Oktobro 2012, 01:32:58
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re: Debate
Iamon lyme: Mitt will continue to surge in the polls. ;)

24. Oktobro 2012, 01:57:01
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: Debate
Artful Dodger: This morning I learned my state went from "safe" (electoral votes secure for Obama) to "leaning towards" (Obama). Oregon has always (in my memory) thrown its support to the Democratic candidate. We were one of the few states who supported Carter's re-election. I'm not sure if Washinton was one of those few states or not, but I wouldn't bet against that. I'll have to look this up to be certain of it, but I think only three states gave their electoral votes to Carter. (Carter vs Reagan)

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:00:28
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re: Debate
Iamon lyme: Washington usually votes towards the Democrats in national elections. Same with Minnesota and Wisconsin. But Wisconsin has a conservative governor so who knows. Minnesota is a strange bird. They lover their liberals. Washington loves the liberals except for those on the eastern side who are mostly conservative and independents. But not enough of them to matter.

I'm voting yes for charter schools this year. Competition is good.

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:29:07
Papa Zoom 
Gee, the Rasmussen poll has Romney up 4 points.

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:31:00
Papa Zoom 
According to the official U.S. Marine Corps website, every Marine is STILL required to complete a bayonet training program … because “the weapon becomes just as effective [as a rifle] in close combat situations.”

We spoke with Dan Riker from Bayonet Inc. — a leading military surplus outlet that specializes in bayonets — who tells us he believes Obama’s comment was “ignorant … because our soldiers still use bayonets.”

He adds, “[Bayonets] are still distributed to the military all the time — he should get educated on it”

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:32:51
Iamon lyme 
Temo: Re: Debate
Artful Dodger: Here it is Reagan carried 44 states (out of 57) and got 50.7% of the popular vote. Both Oregon and Washington gave their electoral votes to Reagan. Wow. So it IS possible (not impossible) that Oregon could do it again. Only have to wait two more weeks to see what happens.

TGI almost November.

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:33:38
Papa Zoom 

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:35:23
Papa Zoom 
England’s Take On Final Debate – Romney won the presidential debate by looking presidential
Obama And Romney Spar In Final Debate Before Presidential Election
October 23, 2012 2012 Presidental Debates, Barack Obama, Election 2012, Mitt Romney

Romney won the third presidential debate – and how he did it was encapsulated in a single exchange. The candidates were discussing military spending and Romney had just accused Obama of making harmful cutbacks. The President wheeled out what must have seemed like a great, pre-planned zinger: “I think Governor Romney maybe hasn’t spent enough time looking at how our military works. You mentioned the navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well, governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets because the nature of our military’s changed.” The audience laughed, Obama laughed, I laughed. It was funny.

Defeated?

But here’s why it was also a vote loser. For a start, Twitter immediately lit up with examples of how the US Army does still use horses and bayonets (horses were used during the invasion of Afghanistan). More importantly, this was one example of many in which the President insulted, patronised and mocked his opponent rather than put across a constructive argument. His performance was rude and unpresidential. Obama seemed to have a touch of the Bidens, wriggling about in his chair, waving his hands dismissively and always – always – smirking in Romney’s direction. By contrast, Romney sucked up the abuse and retained a rigid poker face all night. He looked like a Commander in Chief; Obama looked like a lawyer.

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:35:59
Papa Zoom 
Temo: case ya want more

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:37:11
Papa Zoom 
Temo: hahahah MSNBC even

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:37:50
Papa Zoom 

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:43:51
Papa Zoom 

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:44:34
Iamon lyme 
In 1984 Reagan carried 49 states and got 58.8 % of the popular vote. Oregon and Washington gave their votes to Reagan that time as well.

It was a landslide RE-election.

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:45:08
Papa Zoom 
http://newsninja2012.com/say-what-nbcs-chuck-todd-fact-checks-obamas-bayonets-line/


ahahah they still use bayonets in combat. AND horses too!

BIG Obama blunder

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:46:42
Papa Zoom 
Temo: Re: Debate
Iamon lyme: I'll be so glad when it's over. If Obama wins, I'm going underground. cuz the USA will go quickly down the

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:49:41
Papa Zoom 

24. Oktobro 2012, 02:51:48
Papa Zoom 
Temo: and then there is this

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