"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."


~~~~~ The late Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931 - 2005

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Subject: Re:On top of tht they passed some new taxes, including now I cant take a tax break for the interest on my two mortgages or the insurance for them, my two biggest tax breaks I have!
Czuch: I know. I can't believe how much money the government rips off on us. It's extortion. We have no choice but to pay for their stupid spending habits. They are reckless with our money. Most people just are uninformed and don't give a rip.

My son loves Obama. But he can't tell me why other than to say Bush was an idiot. That's what we're dealing with. I don't dislike Obama. But he's a bad president. His policies are bad. And if things keep progressing as they have, he will trample on the constitution. Big government is well on its way.

Bush messed up big time with big government.
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A Dim Bulb in the Oval Office?
Herbert E. Meyer
During his eight years in the White House, President George W. Bush was often described by liberals as being about halfway between an idiot and an imbecile. They told us he was so inarticulate -- so unable to express himself clearly -- that his very presence in the Oval Office was an embarrassment for the United States. Members of the White House press corps, spoofing a popular movie, called him the English Patient.

Yet no one, anywhere in the world, ever had trouble understanding what President Bush was saying.

President Obama, on the other hand, is invariably described by these same people as brilliant -- indeed, the most articulate carbon-based life form ever to have walked the Earth.

So how come every time President Obama opens his mouth to state his position on some issue -- as he did this weekend, speaking about his support for that mosque near Ground Zero -- the White House scrambles to issue a "clarification" -- followed less than a day later by an "elaboration" of the clarification?

Come to think of it, President Bush speaks twice as many languages as President Obama. (To be precise, two.) Oh, and in eight years President Bush never said anything even remotely as stupid as President Obama's comment that people in Austria speak Austrian.

Perhaps we should put less effort into forcing the release of President Obama's original long-form birth certificate, and more effort into forcing release of his IQ. Anyone want to take my bet that it'll be lower than George W. Bush's?

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(V): "And as for the courts, judges do have the right to argue about the law, sentences and the like.. over here in poor ol' 'liberal' UK. Some do, some will also do in cases where it's more of a matter of personal feeling and not as such an illegal activity."

Yes, they interpret the law, often based on precedent. But the courts are not to make laws. The legislature makes the laws. And the courts don't legislate. They ought not to usurp constitutional authority. If they do, they are renegades and should be shot. At least ousted from the bench. They work for me by the way.
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It's so true. Most people can't understand Obama's exact position on matters without clarification. and without his teleprompter, he's all "um" and "ahh"

German is the only nationally official language, and the language spoken by the largest proportion of Austrians. A number of dialects are spoken. Austrian German is the catch-all term for German in Austria, which can differ from Standard German to the many local vernaculars.

Alemannic

Alemannic dialects are mainly spoken in Vorarlberg, and are quite divergent from Standard German. The Alemannic spoken in Vorarlberg can be further divided into the High Alemannic variety.

Austro-Bavarian

The majority of Austrian German-speakers speak dialects belonging to the Austro-Bavarian group, and there is little linguistic barrier between Austrians and those living in southern Germany.

I have just gotten home from our local hospital after having blood taken for diabetes, I waited 1 1/2 hours to have it taken. They are so overworked it isn't even funny...Thank god I don't have tooth decay because it is a 18 months to three years waiting list to see the dentist at the hospital.

http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2010/06/09/113251_local-news.html

Tuesday: that must explain why the WH threw Sharrod under the bus BEFORE anything aired on Beck (AND Beck took Sherrod's side).

Bernice: I wonder if Obama Care covers tooth decay? Among the poorest of children in the US, tooth decay is a huge problem. It's sad. But the problem isn't dental coverage, it's lack of personal care. That happens at home. Dental care is secondary (and important too). But many people simply don't take care of themselves (or their kids) and the rest of us will eventually be asked to pick up the tab.

On the one hand, I want the kids helped. It's not their fault. OTOH, I want people to be told that they have to demonstrate some personal responsibility. Cover kids but adult who are too lazy to take care of their teeth, I dunno. Where does personal responsibility and consequences come into the picture?

Tuesday: You didn't say "Obama" you said "each other." Sherrod would be that "other." AND, she was being criticized by fellow Dems AND the WH WAS AFRAID of being Becked.

So you are wrong.

Artful Dodger: how would you like to be a dentist,in Arkansas??? lol
the average person there only has 3 teeth!

municipalities floride their drinking water, and children raised there have fewer cavities than children raised drinking from wells.

Tuesday: How can you be a supporter of a political party that not only supports the butchering of the unborn, but works to make such butchering available to other countries at the US taxpayers expense?

In 1997 Obama opposed bill preventing partial-birth abortion.

Bernice: in the UK its alot worse unless you can go private and you get seen the same day

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/80000-still-without-NHS-dentist.5952635.jp


this is just one part of the UK

Tuesday: Why are they personally against it?

Tuesday: Why would they be personally against abortion?

Tuesday: YOu are making the claim that they are personally against abortion. I'm asking you why that is and you are dodging the question.

Snoopy and AD: Tooth Decay is a curse...some of our towns/cities have flouridation and some dont unfortunately....Only the people with money can afford to go private here, all the others there is a might waiting list...CHildren seem to have the worst teeth from sucking soft drinks (soda pops) thru straws....not enough water is drunk by the majority of the population, but then the flouridated water tastes foul anyway LOL...My tap water isnt nice if you drink it from the tap so I filter all water for cooking, and drinking. Makes it somewhat better to drink anyway :)

Bernice: True. And Tuesday is wrong, people living in middle class homes practice better dental care than do those in poor homes. It's a statistical fact.

Tuesday: I'll answer your question after you answer this one. Why are YOU against abortion?

Tuesday: Black and Hispanic children and those living in families with lower incomes have more decay.

http://www.dentalguideusa.org/dental_statistics/childhood_tooth_decay.htm

Tuesday: Under any circumstances? Like rape or incest?

Artful Dodger: yes and that is the same here.....lower class/lower income people have poorer health....to buy toothpaste/brushes only comes second to a cask of wine/grog...personal hygiene isnt something that a lot of the above have access to when they either live on the streets or in lower class housing where most essentials either aren't connected because they can't afford to connect them, again because the cask of wine/grog/beer comes first.

Bernice: I don't know but think it's likely also lack of understanding that contributes to tooth decay. Mother's milk won't promote decay but when the baby gets to solid foods, that's where the problem starts. Heck, we brush our dog's teeth.

you wouldnt protect your children or pets?
are you suddenly vegan?
saying things that arent true, makes it hard to present a viable arguement.
using abortion as a form of birth control, just isnt morally right. using abortion to save a life,ie:the mother will more than likely die from childbirth...now your throwing dice,,, but overall,imo,abortion is in fact murder.

Artful Dodger: hehehehe and I brush Bears teeth as well....he is 8 today, I bought him a squeeky toy LOL....just to add to the million others he has hahahahaha

Bwild: I have to agree with you there Bwild. It's almost worse than murder as the baby is a living entity but is helpless and deserves all the protection that can be given to him/her, not to be abandoned and left to a murderer with a rusty coathanger

Why are democrats personally opposed to abortion but favor a woman's "right to choose."

They are opposed to abortion ONLY in their words. But in their actions, they favor it. They pretend to be against abortion because they know that abortion opponents consider it the taking of an innocent life. So they say they are against the taking of a human life (through abortion) but ok with the fact that abortion takes the life of an unborn human as long as the mother is making that decision.

That isn't logical.

Bernice: few years ago near me this happened

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/north_yorkshire/3494409.stm

that was 2004 but the problem still exists today http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1169764/NHS-scandal-I-dentist--Now-aged-21-Ive-teeth-removed.html

You say that you're "against taking of life under any circumstance."

Like rape and incest?

Artful Dodger: The political view is simple. Say what they think will get them the most votes by the public. You cant take anything they say for anything other than vote gathering IMHO

paully: That and their voting record.

Snoopy: to me...this just goes to show that public health care isnt what its all cracked up to be.