Iamon lyme: Is it so? Like with your analysis of socialism. So many types of socialism and you feel safe in such a broad statement?

So many outside Beck's fan club think he is a middle class red neck, or has found the pay (Murdoch says jump Beck says 'how high') better being one. And we are not just talking about ''liberals'' .. but seeing as views vary from country to country on what is a liberal and what is a conservative.. with the overuse (like the boy who cried wolf)... the word 'liberal' as you and the likes of Dan use seems pointless and too vague to have any meaning in the real world.

... I'd still like a definition of what is a conservative in America, as most involved in politics say it's a different kettle of fish to conservatism elsewhere in modern society......except maybe on the African continent.