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11. Marto 2009, 23:36:53
Nomad 
Temo: Re: The Larger Issue
Czuch: Just a side note to your comment "The US government is me and you and we" that you are speaking of is actually, One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 235 million. That are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country. Like them or hate them, they are the powers to be

11. Marto 2009, 23:45:42
Czuch 
Temo: Re: The Larger Issue
Nomad: well the US government are the town officials and the local representatives as well as those you claim... it is a huge web of elected officials

11. Marto 2009, 23:50:15
The Usurper 
Temo: Re: The Larger Issue
Czuch: "it is a huge web of elected officials"

Wise people call it the Matrix.

12. Marto 2009, 00:07:10
Czuch 
Temo: Re: The Larger Issue
The Usurper: Given the choice of the first or the second options I would take the second one... what I am NOT willing to put up with is feeding them and sending them money when the mud huts they built bellow a muddy hillside get wiped out, and waste our time monitoring them to make sure they really arent making anymore weapons used to kill their own people.... if they can take my money they can take my telling them what to do as well, works with your kids, works with bank bailouts, why not with poor backwards countries as well?

Take away all that from the equation, and we are on the same side again, for awhile anyway, i would not support our military intervention in any country that we were not responsible for anyway, or who have asked for our help specifically!

12. Marto 2009, 00:12:32
Mort 
Temo: Re: what I am NOT willing to put up with is feeding them and sending them money when the mud huts they built bellow a muddy hillside get wiped out, and waste our time monitoring them.
Czuch: But you already have.. It's called the aftermath of GWII.

12. Marto 2009, 00:15:49
Czuch 
Temo: Re: what I am NOT willing to put up with is feeding them and sending them money when the mud huts they built bellow a muddy hillside get wiped out, and waste our time monitoring them.
(V): But you already have.. It's called the aftermath of GWII.


hahahaha... well at least i know what i am paying for then

12. Marto 2009, 00:14:39
The Usurper 
Temo: Re: The Larger Issue
Czuch: "Take away all that from the equation, and we are on the same side again, for awhile anyway, i would not support our military intervention in any country that we were not responsible for anyway, or who have asked for our help specifically!"

Then we are in agreement, except in your underestimation of a people's ability to take care of themselves & prosper if left to themselves.

And since we are in agreement, why do you continue to support intervention?

12. Marto 2009, 00:19:56
Czuch 
Temo: Re: The Larger Issue
The Usurper: I only support intervention when it is the alternative to us paying to feed their people!

I dont underestimate peoples ability to take care of themselves.. it is you who over estimates it..... if they are taking care of themselves so well, why do I have to feed them????

If they are doing so well for themselves, why are whole towns wiped out in mudslides ruining their straw huts?

12. Marto 2009, 00:23:40
The Usurper 
Temo: Re: The Larger Issue
Czuch: "I dont underestimate peoples ability to take care of themselves.. it is you who over estimates it..... if they are taking care of themselves so well, why do I have to feed them????"

Trust me, your money isn't going to feed them, it is going to kill them & starve them. I don't suppose you'll ever figure that out.

12. Marto 2009, 00:28:45
Czuch 
Temo: Re: The Larger Issue
Modifita de Czuch (12. Marto 2009, 01:11:55)
The Usurper: Trust me, your money isn't going to feed them, it is going to kill them & starve them. I don't suppose you'll ever figure that out.


oh... okay, so lets see... the US has been around a bit over 200 years... some of these countries we are talking about have been around for thousands.... but it is because of us that they live in huts and eat boogers and flys with their rice? They were all just thriving robust places to live for centuries until we came along and (BEEEEEEEP!) them all up

12. Marto 2009, 00:34:20
The Usurper 
Temo: Re: The Larger Issue
Czuch: Well, it is a fact that the Western world created & maintains the global apartheid system. You seem to be wanting to expand the debate. So there's a bit of history for you. You can research the details at your leisure, or else maybe just tune in to Fox News for the latest "truth implant." lol

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