Much to my dismay I find myself the provider of yet another tourny win for shagglbrox - congrats to my bro on winning

Pente and more Pente - and then some more (Pente)

I just gave you the answer below about IYT:

If the rounds at IYT go for a bit, and someone asks the owner there to end the tournament instead of starting new rounds, it is done. Otherwise, the computer there will continue to make new rounds forever.

Thad: Nobody accused anybody of anything Thad, chill.

http://www.itsyourturn.com/pp?tourngametype&id=348&type=2

And maybe we all can agree we don't have the answer?

Bry: Yes because names of deleted fellowships are not stored elsewhere.

Fencer: but still under *deleted fellowship* next to their team?

Bry: The team (the group of users) will play in the next round.

Fencer: what would happen if team who's fellowship has been deleted won the group and went through to the next round?

ah ok, thanks... just wondered as some dont seem to be going very fast lol

furbster: Even if some fellowships are deleted, all games still continue.

Is it just me, or in the hyper team tourney currently running, do the games in which the two fellowships that have been deleted, seem to not be continuing?

Bry: i hope so \o go team backgammon o/
reversi 6x6 would be cool to

The second Beginners Tablut tournament starts tomorrow, those who have never tried it, read the rules and sign up!

Fencer: Can you create a new Team Tournament for Backgammon to start signing up to please- 10 players per team??

SunFire: If the rounds at IYT go for a bit, and someone asks the owner there to end the tournament instead of starting new rounds, it is done. Otherwise, the computer there will continue to make new rounds forever.

Your welcome.

SunFire: BeaverBoy brought it up, then he and shagglbrox accused me of being wrong. Obviously my last post proved that I was right. But perhaps we can close the book on IYT now.

The bottom line is that ties are ok, if a game, match, or tournament is played to a tie, but not when the tying players never face each other. Also, if a tournament is co-won, there should be something indicating so.

Thad: Who cares about the tournaments in Its Your Turn.

You are all wrong. There have been ties there in the past as I have said. Look at Ilurath's profile:
>http://itsyourturn.com/iyt.dll?userprofile?userid=15200000661830


He "won" the August 2002 Main #1 Tournament in pente. Now look at Dmitri King's profile:
>http://itsyourturn.com/iyt.dll?userprofile?userid=15200000385955


He also "won" the same tournament! The standings at the end of the 'final' round are here:
>http://itsyourturn.com/iyt.dll?tourn_showplayers?id=265&gmtypeid=42&r=9&type=2&st=1&range=10


I don't care what the rules at IYT say, they are obviously not correct.

BIG BAD WOLF: Thank you, now I know how it works.

SunFire: All 3 of you were awarded a win since you all tied.

http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=8241&tri=37773

Thad: It was Quickie HyperBack 1
and we all had 1.0 for S-B points.

Thad: No offense Thad, but the rules at IYT state there can be ties for sections, but:
"When all games in all sections are completed, the players who scored highest in their sections advance to the next round, where they are placed in new sections. The process repeats until there is a single champion for each game type within a tournament."

There was a Keryo tourney I saw there went 10 rounds, the last 6 or 7 or which were between just 3 guys, but a winner finally emerged. Ask "Steve (who sometimes waits until round 10 to lose)"

Anyway, who cares, that's IYT - I agree with your point though, ties suck - maybe Fencer could allow an option (like time limit options) to set whether a tourney can end in a tie or not?

SunFire: I doubt you won because your BKR was lowest. You probably were awarded the win because your S-B score was highest. Which tournament was it?

Some tournaments end in a tie but I think there is always a winner.
I was in one that just ended and it was a three way tie but because I had the lowest BKR of all of us it gave me the win of the tournament :o)

BeaverBoy: Ae.

Thad: Did you know that I was talking about ItsYourTurn.com?

BeaverBoy: You are wrong, Beaverboy. Tournaments at ITY do not always go until there is a winner. I know there are tournaments listed in their history that have two winners. If I knew the date of one, I would post it here, but offhand, I do not. I will try and go back and find one when I get a chance so you'll have proof.

PS: 3 rounds with just 2 players ain't any big deal. I've gone nine rounds there more than once. And I know I've gone at least five with just one other player. ;-)

Thad: Yes they do! One tournament has gone like 3 rounds with just 2 players!

JamesHird: Absolutely. I'd feel better about second place if I had played partica in my tournament and lost than I do about being the 'winner' of it.

Thad: True Thad, sometimes there is a tie.
But I think the point is, they keep going until it is 1 against 1.
Having two winners in a tourament is kinda pointless though when they havent even had the chance to play a round with just the 2 of them dont you think?

BeaverBoy: No they do not.

Tournaments always go till there is a winner.

Yes, Thad has a good idea. Maybe limit the tournament to 1 or 2 tie breaking rounds? then if no winner is determined, it is a tie..

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Fencer: An extra round or two would be better than an automatic tie. Ties are ok, but not when there hasn't been any attempt at all to break it. In my case, partica & I never faced each other in the tournament we were co-winners of. That is a travesty. We should have faced each other AT LEAST once before a tie was declared.

True..

Doesn't seem like it would happen that often though..

I just hate ties! LOL...

I wasn't taking into consideration more than 2 people involved in the tie.. The 2 win match to break the tie, obviously wouldn't work in situations with 3 or more people..

rod03801: If you have a round with only 1 section containing 4 players (for example) and all of them would be the winners, the next round would be exactly the same.

I agree. I hate tournaments ending in a tie..
Why would they be endless? Wouldn't it be possible to have those people remaining play a 2 win match to decide? (I think the 3 win matches when there are only 2 people, are too much)

Thad: No. It could lead to endless tournaments.

Fencer: Then can I suggest that tournaments be changed so that they continue until there is a winner?

Because round 2 had only one section.

Why was there no round 3 in this tournament:
http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?tri=25594

Nothingness: I do not believe that there is a way to get into another Espionage tourney, since you are still in your current one, other than upgrading to a rook. ;-)

im still locked out of a tourney even as a member, b/c i cant enter more than 1 version of that game. im in espionage and i won my section almost immediately, and the other section hasnt even scratched the surface of their 1st round games yet.isnt there a way to get into another tourney while i wait. it could possibly last over a year before i can enter another tourney.

Hrqls: The smile page still hasn't been updated to show what a 141 is, so I hope that's a nice smiley...

ClayNashvilleTn: The misconceptions appear at any site... Most people just don't bother trying all the links. "New game" is the only link that some of the players around here know...

pawns in a tournament :

Nothing at all to be afraid of. The one thing pawns should be aware of though is that they are tied to that tournament until it's completion, unless they've completed all their games and are taking no further part in the tourney and they talk very nicely to Fencer who might release them.

JamesHird: Which brings up a good point.
I played every day for two years as a pawn and never entered a tournament.
Played several weeks after paying and never did.

For some reason some people are reluctant to participate in tourneys.

I was slow to get involved and was leery of tournaments. I only read GC and didn't see much said about them. Wasn't even sure that I could, if I didn't belong to a F/S.

There are a lot of misconceptions, as to who can do what or when.

I have asked pawn friends to get involved and most all seem to be afraid.

I would have thought there would be quadruple this many people signed up.

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