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  Chess variants (10x8)Sam has closed his piano and gone to bed ... now we can talk about the real stuff of life ... love, liberty and games such as Janus, Capablanca Random, Embassy Chess & the odd mention of other 10x8 variants is welcome too For posting: - invitations to games (you can also use the New Game menu or for particular games: Janus; Capablanca Random; or Embassy) - information about upcoming tournaments - disussion of games (please limit this to completed games or discussion on how a game has arrived at a certain position ... speculation on who has an advantage or the benefits of potential moves is not permitted while that particular game is in progress) - links to interesting related sites (non-promotional) Vi ne rajtas afiŝi mesaĝojn en ĉi tiu forumo. La minimuma necesa nivelo de la membreco por afiŝi mesaĝojn en ĉi tiu forumo estas Brain-Peono. Moduso: Ĉiu rajtas sendi
5. Julio 2006, 17:21:26 Temo: BloodofBulls vs. ColonelCrockett http://www.gothicchesslive.com/javascript/game.php?gameid=1442
whew, my opponent and I both played "decent" Gothic Chess in this game but it didn't amount to much when I made a severe blunder on my 22nd move. The position was arguably won by me until I blundered (but in Gothic that doesn't mean a whole lot, the "technical win" is difficult to judge). Irregardless of the negative result I enjoyed the game immensely and had alot of fun playing it. 7. Aprilo 2006, 18:32:13 Temo: Re: Single janus/archbishop checkmate WhisperzQ: I think not . . . Black was dominating the game after hxg. certainly avoiding the mate in two was necessary but the open file will be dominated by Black . . . controlling a rook file near the opponents king is usually winning. 13. Marto 2006, 18:05:53 Temo: Re: Pawn capture in Embassy Chess game JinkyOng: people can be too. ;) 10. Marto 2006, 23:22:46 Temo: Re: Pawn capture in Embassy Chess game Walter Montego: seeing as the machine didn't stop the blocking of all those files I'd say you have already tested SMIRF's programming . . . I wouldn't begin to know how Pythagoras defeats SMIRF . . . I never have . . . 10. Marto 2006, 23:01:06 Temo: Re: Pawn capture in Embassy Chess game Walter Montego: I saw the line you mentioned with a Knight sac and the Marshall and rook stop . . . however, I should think the Cardinal could come into play (you've seen how well Cardinal's aide passers). ;) 10. Marto 2006, 21:28:26 Temo: Re: Pawn capture in Embassy Chess game Walter Montego: I like the position, Walter . . . to me it looks as though you are winning (however, as Pythagoras noted, it may require a sacrifice or two and certainly it will require alot of careful calculation). Anyway, a very nice game and a far cry from my Tactical attempt at SMIRF. 10. Marto 2006, 21:28:22 Temo: Re: Pawn capture in Embassy Chess game Walter Montego: I like the position, Walter . . . to me it looks as though you are winning (however, as Pythagoras noted, it may require a sacrifice or two and certainly it will require alot of careful calculation). Anyway, a very nice game and a far cry from my Tactical attempt at SMIRF. 9. Marto 2006, 00:03:24 Temo: Re: New tournament format!! Walter Montego: the tournament's maximum number of players can be exceeded (according to my settings) So that's not the issue). Also, I wanted to accommodate people with busy schedules by making each round a one game match (this includes myself). I would rather see a variety of talent play a single game than a few players play several. If people want more rounds just invite more players. (that's the goal in my mind . . . get people interested in the game and then try for the big sectional round robins). 7. Marto 2006, 18:20:52 Temo: New tournament format!! I just recently created a tournament with outlandish parameters (it has now been deleted). I have created a new tournament that now has more flexible parameters. If you are interested in an Embassy Chess tournament to see who is the best (and to get as many rated games in as possible) then by all means join! invite others!!
http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=14512 6. Marto 2006, 20:53:10 Temo: Re: Ratings Pythagoras: Very happy to oblige with answers to very thoughtful questions.
1st - Blitz on Gothic Chess Live = usually a time limit of around ten minutes per game (with a 5-12 second delay). this is not enough time to cheat (successfully, anyway) and the games are all databased by the site. 2nd - I was working on the premise that someone cheats because they have to . . . if you can beat the best computer programs at Gothic . . . why use them to cheat? that makes no sense. 6. Marto 2006, 20:40:45 Temo: Re: Ratings Thad: It is well known that to "weed-out" computer cheaters you decrease time limits ('blitz') because the would-be cheater can't input data into his program fast enough to make much difference. Ed is the champion at blitz Gothic and that makes any thought that he might cheat moot in my opinion. As to your question as to "who is the best" I really can't answer . . . I can only tell you who isn't the best . . . me . . . that's the extent of my knowledge (and it is true strength to "know thyself") you too can only know your personal limits . . . any other attempt to calculate fails because nobody ever set out to play everyone who played the game . . . that would be the only true decision maker. 6. Marto 2006, 20:15:10 Temo: Re: Ratings Pythagoras: two very good questions. 1. Marto 2006, 17:17:46 Temo: Re: yipee! Pedro Martínez: the game you were rated 1900+ at, lol. 1. Marto 2006, 17:11:24 Temo: Re: yipee! Pedro Martínez: he means Gothic Chess, Pedro.
Everyone: I don't want to get on a Gothic Chess discussion again. I wasn't trying to bring up the topic. 28. Februaro 2006, 21:39:03 Temo: Re: yipee! WhiteTower: I can't say I've "forgotten" I just found another interesting variant. :) 28. Februaro 2006, 02:24:59 Temo: yipee! I guess I should've been playing this variant since it came to the site!
http://brainking.com/en/ArchivedGame?g=1427042 25. Februaro 2006, 18:15:35 Temo: Re: silly question HalfPawn: I believe Embassy came first (or at least I know for sure the Lasker and Capablanca versions came first). If you look at the patent for Gothic Chess (check the US Patent office website) Gothic chess references several other chess variants as well as their inventors . . . then you'll know just exactly where Gothic came from . . . very interesting reading but it's been awhile since I read it. 25. Februaro 2006, 16:52:49 Temo: Re: Grand Chess--good play panzerschiff: . . . or a few misfit players. ;) 6. Februaro 2006, 18:04:26 Temo: Re: HalfPawn: It seems like GI answered all of your questions there . . . If you have any others just ask over there or PM me. 4. Februaro 2006, 15:59:14 Temo: Re: Walter Montego: the name isn't "Crickett". 21. Decembro 2005, 16:25:26 Temo: Re: The 2005 Gothic Chess Computer World Championship ChessCarpenter: I predict a win for white in the next Vortex - Smirf game. It appears that Reinhardt has been hard at work making Smirf play better, they're all looking pretty good (except for poor Zillions) but ChessV is nice. 10. Novembro 2005, 00:16:04 Temo: Re: computers + openings Walter Montego: if the machine made the same opening move every game without an opening library to draw from then the problem is with the game . . . not the program. I was simply asking to satiate my curiosity. 10. Novembro 2005, 00:07:43 Temo: Re: computers + openings SMIRF Engine: so it makes a different opening move each time it plays? 8. Novembro 2005, 23:15:08 Temo: Re: From relatively unknown to known WhiteTower: I don't care if he has experience in the field of AI. Pythagoras can't predict the future. 8. Novembro 2005, 17:34:01 Temo: Re: From relatively unknown to known Pythagoras: so you think that humans will be surpassed by computers at Gothic in the next few years? 8. Novembro 2005, 16:54:07 Temo: Re: GothicChessLive tedbarber: I'm in the process of getting some folks together later today on GC live. 8. Novembro 2005, 16:37:28 Temo: Re: From relatively unknown to known I think either point would be hard to prove (as both require a knowledge of the future of technology that I don't think anyone possesses). 8. Novembro 2005, 16:22:16 Temo: Re: From relatively unknown to known SMIRF Engine: . . . and GC has a long future also, given the fact that most things that people "know" about the game are thwarted by a sacrifice. 8. Novembro 2005, 03:00:27 Temo: Re: GothicChessLive Caissus: 10 minutes and 12 second delay. that makes a difference. I too am having trouble finding gothic opponents. 29. Oktobro 2005, 16:02:54 Temo: Re: Good things coming...patience all Nasmichael: will the GClive server still need the updated java when it comes back online? I hate downloading updates!! 22. Oktobro 2005, 15:04:16 Temo: neat stuff! Cool recent games from Gothic Chess Live
http://www.gothicchess.com/javascript_games.html Follow SMIRF vs. Vortex game 2 http://s13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?showtopic=76 22. Oktobro 2005, 14:51:29 Temo: Re: Jules: a good suggestion jules, I was simply stating facts not starting a debate. 21. Oktobro 2005, 15:55:24 Temo: Ed Trice Grim Reaper is no longer able to reply to messages or to post on the message boards. That's why we haven't heard from him in awhile. beyond that I don't know anything else (you'll have to contact ed to know any more, I'm just the messenger). 30. Aŭgusto 2005, 23:09:38 Temo: Re: redsales: then again I've never known Walter to be subtle. :) 30. Aŭgusto 2005, 02:52:56 Temo: Re: Game # 950868 andreas: I agree with the assessment of my move 15 (part of the opening mistakes I was talking about). I would like to point out that tedbarber was rather rude in demanding my resignation in the later portion of this game and thus my comments (which he quotes accurately) were in response to his rudeness. He failed, however, to quote my praise of his taking advantage of my mistakes. As a side note it is gratifying to hear better players than myself ( and more experienced) agree with my assessment. 25. Aŭgusto 2005, 15:01:25 Temo: Re: yipee! Grim Reaper: hehehe, I'll think about it but I have already been introduced into a game with HerculesBeast(2159, #?). Dresden will most likely have a turn at my scalp eventually. :) 24. Aŭgusto 2005, 19:15:19 Temo: yipee! I FINALLY have my first provisional Gothic rating! 5. Aŭgusto 2005, 20:23:59 Temo: Re: Gothic Chess Board Games tedbarber: I'd like to hear this answer as well! 11. Julio 2005, 18:59:49 Temo: what could black have done better If there anyone here among the "good" gothic players (2000+) that would play me a game and help me analyze afterwards? 11. Julio 2005, 17:46:06 Temo: big tourney isn't there going to be a big prize tournament here in January of next year? 8. Julio 2005, 20:18:57 Temo: Re: capablanca what setup ever andreas: interesting view, and sort of rings true, except that Gothic doesn't usually last long enough to go into an endgame (if you really want to win you usually keep most of your pieces until a sac comes to you . . .). 7. Julio 2005, 15:57:23 Temo: Re: Chessmaster1000: I won't talk about a dynamic comparison (I still believe in the "old standby" chess) but I will say this about positional gothic, how does anyone think like that? I tend to look for almost purely tactical themes when I play gothic, it must take a very disciplined mind to look for the "quiet" moves in gothic (I personally can't resist the long range attacks made by those wonderful new pieces and the queen). I agree that in Gothic sacrificing material for attack is somehow more feasible, and the themes are somewhat similar. (classic bishop sac, rook for knight sac, etc.) 6. Julio 2005, 23:22:18 Temo: Re: ColonelCrockett: sorry danoschek: It is possible that I was wrong, perhaps you are a "positional" player. (but in what sense?). I have seen your games, and played you some time ago, you are not what people generally refer to as "positional". You use tactical means more often, which makes you a "tactical" player (who doesn't play positional when they have to? I was refering to those "given a choice" situations). I think you should seriously reassess starting an argument, that isn't what I was trying to do (and the moderators should take notice of this for future reference). 6. Julio 2005, 22:16:42 Temo: Re: well the realationship is obvious of course danoschek: I assume you mean that when one side is playing poorly the game becomes boring (much more boring than, say, a 60+ move draw?). obviously you are not a positional player. Many times I have lost in a positional battle because I tried to make it interesting instead of the dead draw, needless to say I am fast becoming tactical. 4. Julio 2005, 20:58:49 Temo: Re: the correlation between gothic and 8x8 Chessmaster1000: I agree in reference to extinction chess but I still think Gothic has helped me at 8x8 chess. In the interest of not insighting a riot I think that it can be agreed that a healthy helping of both games can not hurt anyone . . . agreed? 2. Julio 2005, 17:16:58 Temo: the correlation between gothic and 8x8 my strength has improved tremendously just by starting to play gothic and beginning to move my mind in that direction. many people have told me recently that I must be a master, I've been studying harder than ever at my correspondence games and the results are good. (those who think I'm a master would faint to know that I'm only a class B OTB but I'm certainly creeping up on master level (or at least above expert) at correspondence. 30. Junio 2005, 20:10:50 Temo: Benefits to Gothic Chess Is it true that playing Gothic chess can help improve your skill at regular chess? |
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