Snoopy: I know, this is the first version they have recommended for general users though (yet its not said on MozillaZine yet), although it is not the final release

Works fine for me, im flying through my games

MadMonkey: ive been using it for over a year
testing it and reporting bugs
its now on beta 4 and this version has been freezing up dozens of times each day

I got this update from PC Pro this morning, Firefox 3.0 will be out in June

I am trying it right now, and boy is it fast

This has not been announced yet by Mozilla, even though that PC Pro press says they are going to. It is not the final edition and many Extensions do not work with 3.0 yet. If you would like to test it without losing your current setup (as normally it would over right your current one) download this HERE and run it on its own

I just downloaded some more FREE software that comes with my monthly Windows Advisor update (well worth subscribing if you live on your PC like me).

If you like the Vista start menu set up, but are running XP, then why not download Vista Start Menu

The Windows Advisor itself is great. You can learn absolutely everything about the inner depths of Windows itself, and how to modify your Registry to make your PC work for you

Rose: Looks like Unicode encoding problem. What does View / Character Encoding show on those sites?

no  all sites

Rose: I haven't seen anything like that. Is it only on this site?

Any one else who uses the Firefox browser getting black diamonds with question marks in them where certain english symbols like apostrophes etc should be? Anyone know how to remove them so I can see the pages I view correctly?

Well, this is something to do with Computers

Poor old Microsoft, wonder if they can afford it

Gordon Shumway:  Everything i said was c/p from Skype's FAQs...the point is that a computer is needed.

I'm using Skype very often, use to have long video talks with friends in Sweden.  Dont think its as fun using a Skype phone tho :)

Andersp: You need a PC running Windows

Everything you said is correct except for that part - Skype is available for other platforms as well - including Mac OSX, Linux (but the Linux version is always way behind), Windows Mobile, Smart Phone, Nokia N800/N810 and WiFi phones with integrated Skype and standard cordless phones with integrated Skype. So WebTV users that don't want to buy a PC could as well buy a phone to use Skype. In some countries there is also a Skype phone available, called "3 Skype phone".

EDIT: On this Skype download page: Download Skype for Windows you can see a rather complete list of links with further information on all the platforms that Skype supports on the right hand side.

Andersp: I already have it, I was asking on behalf of a couple of webtv users from another site. Thanks.

does anyone know if webtv users can use skype please?

volant & Erissa: The spider lol Here he is Spider, he just follows the cursor , i added the Tree frog as well, he does the same and eats the flies you give him as well ......oh little things please little minds lol

I think it has some great games there i have Chess, Poker, Frogger, Space Invaders, Helicopter, Hangman, Suduko at the moment, but there are hundreds

MadMonkey: What's the spider? I haven't been to mine in quite a while.

MadMonkey: I missed the spider but they may have added him since I set it up. I've a tab for recipes, images tools and the main one for news and Garfield cartoon You can choose a different Theme for each tab if you wish.

volant: I started with 5 Tabs, but then got carried away and started adding pointless stuff

Now i have just two. One for important stuff (News, Sport, Weather, RSS etc.....oh and the Spider, he is great), and one tab with a few nice games on for when i can not get on here lol

MadMonkey: I set it up once and wound up with about 4 tabs but I don't really use it. Even thoug it has some nice things.

Does anyone else use igoogle ?

I been playing about with it for a couple of hours now, and its very useful to put everything you need on one page

MadMonkey: hahaha with the BIG Microsoft ad in the middle......still a loooooooooong way to go....do you think Yahoo will be called Microhoo??

Us in the Firefox fellowship Know how great Firefox is

Here is the latest from PC Pro News:

Firefox makes gains on Internet Explorer

TheCrazyPuppy: Yea, I've tested out the Version 3, Beta 2 in the portable version (A version I can run from my USB drive without uninstalling my main version) - One of the big problems with version 2 is that it manages my memory very bad - something that version3 should fix. Nice what I've seen so far - but I still use version2 daily since most add-on's won't make a version 3 until a final version is ready.

Portable Information (V3): http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable/test

Portable Information (V2-stable): http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable

rod03801: yes your right there are very few addons that work with this version yet

Gordon Shumway: Anyone with a Mac here, that has an idea for tiaria57? She said that it only happens with programs she's about to install and that the software was for the Mac...?!?

rod03801: ill admit it - i tried the colorful tabs add-on - but it wouldnt work without firefox 3....

Eriisa: They may not work with firefox 3 yet..

TheCrazyPuppy:  There is a whole list at the Firefox Fellowship

ive been using this for months now
even thou its not officially released yet but i wondered if anyone knew of any add ons i could use

I read great reviews for The Shield Deluxe 2008,so I bought and downloaded it.Any opinions on this product?

Fencer: Thanks! I'm happy to see that I can't find it in my add/remove programs.

Eriisa: http://www.liamdelahunty.com/tips/fun_web_products.php

what is FunWebProducts?

I moved this thread from the Firefox fellowship, because it is very likely that is has more to do with the Mac than Firefox itself, and because some Mac experts might read this board that are not members of the F/S.

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tiaria57: Does anyone here run the Firefox with a Mac??? If so, can you let me know.. I have a major problem with downloading and although I have looked and searched for months, I can't figure it out.
[...]
I'm new to a Mac and whenever I try to download something, not an add on, etc. it goes to disc utility and there is no way I can get if from there. I have set it for all downloads to go to my desktop and even though it goes there, when I click on it, disc utility shows up and I'm lost because I can't retrieve it from there. I'm very frustrated because I am trying to download a texas hold'em site to no avail.

Gordon Shumway: I have two questions:
1) You said that happens every time you download something - does this also apply to pictures, etc. or just to executable files / disc images?
2) The hold'em software you downloaded - which site was it?
[...]
I just talked to a friend on ICQ, and he asked what file type the software is that you downloaded. Mac OSX should be able to simply install *.zip, *.tar, *.tar.gz and *.dmg. One possible reason for the failure would be if you tried to install a Windows executable (*.exe). It would help if you could post a link to the example files that you tried and that failed.

Gordon Shumway: Okey dokey thank you very much.

Mousetrap: That just means that the 17th hop on your way to BrainKing at that particular time was a host with the name PO8-0.prg-001-access-1.interroute.net, and that it took 55ms to send a package to it and receive an answer. This is obviously taken from a traceroute output ;-)

That traceroute thing is just to get a rough estimate of a) how many gateways are passed on a package's way and b) which networks usually are passed. It's not at all guaranteed that the route will always be the same (it is in fact very unlikely that your package will go through PO8-0 every time).
Interoute.net belongs to Interoute Communications in London. There's not much more you can learn from that line...

Can someone give me a breakdown of what this means please?
17 55 ms 55 ms 55 ms PO8-0.prg-001-access-1.interoute.net(followed by an isp no.
I know the prg is Prauge.
Thanks very much.

Andersp: thats a bit expensive in my opinion (after conversion)....they are coming down and down and down all the time.........2G at the moment over here is about $25AUS - $22 US, I would have thought you could get 4G for about $35.....

Last year I bought an external HD 80G and it cost $70 AUS which would be about $65 US.........

Andersp: It sounds like an ok deal to me - i recently bought one at Office Max - 8gb for $80.... they come in pretty handy....

Puckish: you could ask Fencer for a loan, he knows how to rip it out of people in a big way LOL

coan.net: Thanks.... I already blew it by contacting Dell and telling them what I did, in hopes to get it fixed :(

Since I am self employed, and use the laptop for billing and estimates etc, I am looking into if my business insurance covers this, or maybe if my homowners does, but I doubt it.


Maybe i could raise some money like this guy I saw, who put up a picture of his pet rabbit and said unless he raised 50K in donations, he was going to cook this rabbit for dinner, and he got people to donate money from all over to save this bunny!!!

Puckish: Yea, the biggest issue is if you have the power to it and liquid is added - with a laptop, the "heart" of the computer is under the keyboard so... ouch.

Normally (of course you never want to do this), but if there was no power to a PC or laptop, you could open it up and spray it with water. As long as you allowed to to dry completely before you powered it back on - it should do no damage. (or course you don't want to try this - since watch *might* warp certain parts and such.)

Best bet now is to take it to a shop and see if they can fix it - they might just be able to purchase certain parts - keeping others that are not damaged - and get it working again, but will probable cost you at least a few hundred for parts and labor I would guess... but might be better then a totally wasted laptop.

Another idea, depending on where you purchased the laptop - try to clean the laptop the best you can to try to remove any indication that something was spilled - then take it into where you purchased it and act dumb and just say it stopped working. Again, worse that will happen is it won't get fixed - but possible maybe fixed - maybe just labor and/or part cost - again, depends on where you got it at and if that place has PC help center and such. (Best Buy - Circuit City both have PC help centers.)

Bernice: Thanks,thats what I thought.... I did read somewhere online where someone did the same thing and they removed the battery and unplugged it straight away, then spritzed it with water, to dilute the wine I guess, and then dried it with the blow dryer, and after a couple of days they nplugged it back in and it was fine! I also read where someone actually dried theirs in the oven, and it worked as well.

But Mine didnt get any immediate attention, and I was not told about it at all for a day or two :(


Anyway, you are correct Bernice, my laptop was only about 7 months old, thats about $1,200 down the drain, except I still have my wireless mouse and a few other accesories that I can still use.



Does anyone here buy accidental damage insurance? It seems like a waste of money until something like this happens!

nametoolongtofi: I was going to say the same thing but didnt want to spoil his New Year....I dont think the laptop is very old either :(

Puckish: I'm sorry to say this, but cleaning the gunk off is the least of your problems. Your computer is dead. The wine caused a short-circuit, and this fried your computer. It may not be repairable. You may have to buy a new computer.

Okay, I have spilled red wine on my lap top.... I know, dont say anything wize please...... anyway, any advice on a doityourself cleaning?

No, i dont have it covered under warranty, nor did I purchase accidental damage insurance, but maybe it would be covered under my homeowners, or since I use it for work, my business insurance?

I was thinking I could pull some of the keys off and spray it down with purified water or something? Any ideas and a quick tutorial on how? Thanks!

BTW, IT does not power on, this is a cafe computer I am on now!

or2ak.com: thanks so much but now it is back to what it was but I have a wider page where i have to scroll from left to tight LOL

Bernice:

Ctrl and scroll 

the print on my screen (only at BK) has gone very small...I know there is a way of making it bigger by using the scroll ball on your mouse but I cant remember how to do it.......sorry