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ketchuplover: I went to a sneak preview of Pacific Rim( for crew and studio staff) the night Gandolfini died. It was great eye candy, but the story and character development was terrible IMO
Tuesday: I rarely watch his tv show, maybe 3 episodes total, but after listening (and watching) his recent interviews ,I'm kinda split on my opinion of him.If in reality he has physically harmed women, all my good opinions and goodwill go down the toilet
Temo: I was in the states last week, and as usual I listened to right wing talk radio
I was listening to a certain gentleman around 9:30 in the morning,I never caught his name, but his voice sounded exactly like the cartoon character "Cleveland" from Family Guy. Can someone help me out with who this person might be?
President-Elect Barack Obama held his first press conference Friday, one that focused mainly on the current economic crisis. One detail that flew under the radar, however, was which networks and newpapers got to ask questions, or, rather, which one didn't get to ask a question. As Media Bistro notes, one network who was not called upon sticks out: Fox News.
It will be interesting to see how the conservative network adjusts to a political reality in which the Democratic Party holds the White House and substantial majorities in both houses of Congress. Michael Wolff, a Vanity Fair columnist who is writing an authorized biography on Rupert Murdoch's career and family, claims that even Murdoch is embarrassed by Fox News:
Now, with about six weeks to go before publication, Mr. Murdoch has raised objections with Mr. Wolff and his publisher about portions of the book, titled "The Man Who Owns the News: Inside the Secret World of Rupert Murdoch," that suggest that Mr. Murdoch is at times embarrassed by Fox News, which he owns, and its chief executive, Roger Ailes, and that he often shares "the general liberal apoplexy," as Mr. Wolff writes in the book, toward Fox News and its perceived conservative slant...
...The objections raised on behalf of Mr. Murdoch came after an article on Mr. Murdoch and the book was published in Vanity Fair in the October issue in which Mr. Wolff wrote that Mr. Murdoch was making friends with liberals and that he had soured on Fox News and Mr. Ailes. (A 10,000-word excerpt from the book will be published in the December issue, due out early next month.)
"For a long time, he was in love with the Fox chief, Roger Ailes, because he was even more Murdoch than Murdoch," Mr. Wolff wrote in the October Vanity Fair piece. "And yet now the embarrassment can't be missed -- he mumbles even more than usual when called on to justify it; he barely pretends to hide the way he feels about Bill O'Reilly."
Tuesday: I wouldn't have felt a welcome member of the country during those times,I'm surprised more didn't come to Canada,it's not like we don't have room
Artful Dodger: Fox would be commiting ratings suicide if they didn't move closer to center if Obama wins,they'd risk being cut out of the loop,and not get appearances and interviews from the Pres and his closest aids,much like how Bush and Cheney gave Fox much more access than any other network.It's just wise business,and a sense of the change in the country's viewership tastes.Fox has slipped in the ratings,that's not coincidance.You live by an administration,you die by an administration.
Temo: Re: I'll give Fox credit for listening to there reporter
Tuesday: I think it will be very interesting watching the dynamic evolve IF Obama wins,and that's a big IF........will MSNBC become apologists for the administration?
Will Fox maintain there usual support for the administration in power?
Personally I feel the biggest culture shock will occur at MSNBC,I don't see them making the adjustment as easily
"Fox News correspondent Major Garrett shot back in defense of Barack Obama against the network's morning show's effort to suggest that he has ignored Fox News throughout the campaign. In an internal email obtained by the Huffington Post, Garrett — who has been Fox News' correspondent following the Obama campaign — took issue with a planned "Fox & Friends" segment about whether Obama will try to control the media, using "KICKED REPORTERS OFF PLANE, IGNORE FNC, BIDEN FL AV INTVIEW" as "examples he's already done."
"May I point out Obama has done 5 interviews with me and one with Chris Wallace, one with Brit Hume and one with Bill O'Reilly," Garrett replied-all to a "Fox & Friends" producer's email. "That's 8 interviews. Would I like more? Yes. Would Chris Wallace? Yes. Would Brit and O'Reilly like more? Of course."
The e-mail, which went to a significant portion of Fox News staff, continued, comparing Obama's eight interviews with Fox News to the five Hillary Clinton gave the network.
"Just a note to add some real numbers and a grain of context," Garrett said. "Apologies if I left out any other big interview of Obama [or] Clinton on our network."
The planned guest, Media Research Center president Brent Bozell, did appear but the segment was retooled to discuss the media coverage of Obama's remarks on the coal industry."
Bush/Cheney seemed to always use the safe haven of Fox news for interviews over the past few years,it's good to see Obama venture into hostile territory even if it's not in his best interests.
Vikings:A much longer dem primary season and the Europe trip might be the reason,not to mention Palin and McCain campaigned together quite often,Obama/Biden didn't..
Vikings: Here's a great example of bias,Palin's coverage is vast,Biden might as well be in seclusion
They follow the buzz,how else do you explain "Joe The Plumber" being on shows such as Larry King last night? The media has the attention span of a 5 year old having ingested his/her halloween stash in one sitting
Vikings: I understand the concept,I just don't buy either Fox or MSNBC as examples,both networks constantly spin for their respective leanings.Politicians are also very aware of the treatment they'll get on either of those two
Artful Dodger: We're not going to find agreement on this.If a campaign focuses on negativity you can't expect it to be reported otherwise,if it was it would be disingenuous reporting.I watch Fox all the time,O'Rielly and his ambush journalism is legendary,not to mention Hannity's mantra-like preaching of talking points.I will say this,you'd be very hard pressed to not get a snicker from any well respected journalist if you stated that either Fox or MSNBC are not extremely slanted either right or left.I also would avoid using rattings as a barometer of quaity,if it was how do you explain American Idol
Some of the best programming is on PBS,and their viewership numbers aren't going to win any awards
Artful Dodger: The "balance" is due to the fact it would be very difficult for Fox to ignore the very real fact that McCain has gone negative.Toss in a few Rev Wight audio loops,a smattering of Ayres,and the latest PLO associate,and you have balance.I don't think the othe networks are as likely to buy into these boogymen being tossed out as Fox is.I wonder,for instance,if Fox is reporting that McCain supported donating almost a half a million bucks to the PLO guy who is the latest Obama boogyman?
Fox and MSNBC are both in the tank for their respective candidates,toss them out of the equation and you'll have a better picture of reality
Artful Dodger: I understand,but imagine a scenario where campaign A runs a campaign considered much more negative than campaign B.The media vote reflect much more of a bias if they didn't reflect reality.If those stats include Palin the stats are a no brainer
now if we're talking about a scenario strictly based on policy,the press owes it to the public to put forth the facts
Artful Dodger: We can agree to disagree on this one,I think both Fox and MSNBC are in the tank bigtime for "their" sides,but the wince factor is less when I watch MSNBC.I suppose I'd feel the warm and fuzzies if I leaned right by watching Fox...............Charlie Rose restores my sanity after watching both sides
Artful Dodger: I watch Fox News all the time,but strictly for entertainment purposes,the "fair and balanced" motto is chuckled at by most journalists,but MSNBC is pretty much the "left's" answer to Fox,that makes sense,both markets have an audience.Olbermann has actually been gaining pretty good on The Factor in the 25-55 audience,that's the "money" audience they all target,but The Factor holds a large lead due to the older age group.Frankly I'm surprised Colmes allows himself to be laughed at and dis respected as he does with Hannity,he's basically put forth as a stooge,MSNBC shows Buccanon more respect,I kinda like Pat.As much as I may be politically similar to Olbermann,he kinda gets on my nerves at times,Mathews is the best of the bunch
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