ClayNashvilleTn: ***Yes, but when someone bids 1500pts in order to receive the 500 bonus points ever round and everyone else bids in the 200 range which are reasonable bids, then it removes from the strategy the chance to get the high bid from players that are playing to be competitive.***

You said that 200 points is a "reasonable" bid...
This game is not static, it is in constant evolution. Someday it may be reasonable to fall in the first round with a 3000 bid! There is nothing that says that the bhids have to be as low as they are currently.

Walter Montego: I dont know about that either..... If I come on at noon every day, and I make my play at 12:01 and lets say I am last to move in that pond, and the next round starts at 12:02, well, I can come back at noon the next day and stil have 2 minutes to make my next turn without timing out.

But I dont think these types of games should be manditory either. It would be a nice option though. I envision playing a complete game in an hour or so with like minded peopkle who are all currently online together..... that would be fun!

grenv: The problem was established long ago, and the solution? well.....

grenv: So the last 8 posts have all been a waste of time?

Fencer: Any update on that bug yet?

grenv: There isnt one ;)

Pedro Martínez: Its a bug where if you were removed from a game before it starts you will get that....

grenv: Its been talked about long ago... it would be great to be able to play a fast game, maybe in an hour or so with players currently online together.

I am surprised that no one has been moderated in here yet for being "off topic" for talking about the new multi player game Run in the Dark on a board for run around the pond ;)~

Before you do get banned, I have a fellowship that is for all the multi player games on brainking, including the newest addition, and all others that may be added in the future....

all are welcome to join!

Ponds Plus Fellowship

Andre Faria: Well since you have no wins yet, it seems that your earlier strategy wasnt working very well anyway :) and looking at your ranking, it doesnt seem like you have gone out too early in many games either!

Thanks for the dark ponds variant!
Hopefully they will be rated seperatly from regular Ponds?

Fencer: Thanks for the laymens version ;)

Fencer: So is falling in the first round with 100 person pond worse (for bkr) than falling with a 16 person pond?

So, lets see if I have this bkr thing correct.... If I drop outin the first round, is the same as if I lost to everyone else in that pond, and that everyone else jus beat me, and our bkr will be calculated against every player in the game this way each round that goes by, using the same "chess rating formula" that all the other games use?

rabbitoid: Thanks! I saw that already....
I was 2009 for awhile there. I will allow anyone who at least was at 2000, hows that?

hERE IS ONE FOR ANYONE OVER A 2000 BKR...

http://brainking.com/en/Pond?g=469&trnst=0

rabbitoid: LOL!
Yes indeed, if those who are winning all of the Ponds, ie Pedro, deside to play more for their BKR than for their win total, that will certainly help those frustraed with a lack of wins total ;)

I notice that the pond games are still not listed in a persons profile under their games played and number of wins etc....

I agree with Bry.... tell us how the rankings are calculated so we can maximize our games to help our rankings. It seems that win percentage and percentage in the top 5 etc are not that important. Maybe it is more important to play in a lot of games? Does it matter the rankings of the other players in the pond as well?

Lots of questions, but thanks Fencer :)

Mike UK: Give us a shout when you get established ;0

ClayNashvilleTn: Not likely! I already wasted 2 hours today doing mine and Bernice. Anyone with a fast connection can do on in about a 1/4 of the time, maybe less.

Go to your profile and scroll down to your pond games list.... hit the filter link to change it from "running" games to "finished" games, there you go, all your finished pond games :)

Bry: OK.... I had to do mine, another waste of an hour ;)

74 finished Ponds, 38 top 5 finishes for 51%.

11 1st place, 8 2nd place, 8 3rd place, 5 4th place, and 6 5th place.

BerniceC: You have 81 finished games. 24 top 5 finishes (29%). 7 4th place, 7 5th place and 10 3rd place. You dont have any 2nd place or wins yet. The good news is that you have gotten better recently... 23 of your 24 top 5 place finishes have come in your last 44 games, 52%. Thats much better :)

I was going to do mine and pedros to give you some perspective, but since I am on slow webtv, it took me over an hour to sort out yours! Maybe someone with a faster modem can help us out?

Some thoughts..... I dont really believe that it is such a big deal to get into the top 5, if winning is not your main goal. For example, i could bet 50 in the first round and then 100 and 200 and 400 and 800 and 1600 and 3200 and 6400 all blind without even looking at the pond results and I gaurantee i would still be in the game and get a minimum of 7th place with still over 7000 points left to bid.... but I would NEVER have any chance to win one of these games!

My opinion, if you want 3rd 4th and 5th place finishes, keep playing the way you do, but if you want 2nd and wins, then you must change your strategy. Good luck!

Can I say I told you so? ;)~


Czuch Chuckers 29. January 2005, 17:39:34
Do we really need to be sent a message when we get the 500 point bonus for a round?

ClayNashvilleTn: No you will not drop, bidding down to zero does not automatically drop you.....since you got the 500 bonus, you did not have the lowest bid that round, and would still be in the game.

Thanks for helping me PM mcpeak1969 Rod, I hope she will pay more attention to the ponds she joins in the future :)

Fencer: Thanks a lot :)

Fencer: he pond ID is 260? That is the number in the html tag anyway.... removed 3 players and dont remember the name of them though, maybe you could just reinstate all of them and maybe give me their names so I can send the eligable one a messaage that they can join again? If this is not the correct number, where do I find the ID?

I have mistakenly removed a player from my multiple wins pond who is actually eligable to play. Is there a way you can reverse this so that he may sign up again? I dont remember the persons name, as I told them to just re enter again, but didnt know they were permanently blocked until today. Maybe you could just reset my removed players list for this pond? Thanks!

Eriisa: The debate about who is right about her wishes has been fought already in court and it has been desided that it was her desire to be left to die in a situation like she is in.

The only debate left now is for the future and for others who may end up in, or are currently in, a similar situation.... But that is for another board, agreed :)

Foxy Lady: Your pond is for Terris fight for life, problem is, she has been fighting for her right to die for years, and is finally getting her wish granted. We should be happy for her, she finally can leave this miserable life and meet her maker for eternal bliss :)

Stevie: Well.. they have been promised, and many people play their games ultimatly for their ranking instead of just wins and non wins.

Honeylo is a good example of how almost anyone can get into the top 5, even higher, very easily but without any chance of actually winning. Which is probably a good strategy for anyone playing for rankings, and it makes it relatively easy for whomever is in first place when it ghets down to the final several people :)

BIG BAD WOLF: Nice play Vikings! Another close second for BBW though....

BIG BAD WOLF: It was a tough call.... Looks like a nice 2nd place though! That should help your ranking :)

Stevie: I will continue this at a more appropriate board now.... sorry!

Stevie: I was just curious if it was a whole site thing going on to not use Globs as regular mods (as that was an idea I put forth many months ago) Plus I was curious if all mods of public boards were given that honour by Fencer or if it was only the 'main' mod and that the other mods were the decision of that main mod?

I wasnt trying to stir, but now that I see your defensivness on the subject, I assume that something between you and BBW must be going on?

Stevie: Have all Globs been removed from moderators of public boards? Or as main moderator, you have access to add/remove mods at your own discretion?

When/Why were you removed as a moderator of this board?

BIG BAD WOLF: There may be no winner but they still get tied for first place :)

Stevie: Thats weird. I checked all the other running games and none of them are longer than they are meant to be.... OH FENCER!

Bry, if it is not supposed to be described as a prize game without Fencer already having the money or being assured of the prize in advance, as far as I remmber.

Stevie: Here you go Stevie

Stevie: I know its frustrating. But There will always be at least one person fall in every round. It is going to be a long frustrating game no matter. There will probably be more people become pawns before this game finishes, and the same thing will happen all over again anyway. For all we know, Grenv could bet one every round and win, there will likely always be suicide moves. Plus later in the game, people will start to run out of points to play, and there will be plenty more chances to bid low too.

Bry: I think that is only on the first round?

BIG BAD WOLF: I wasnt either....

Well, how would you know if some other person might not play a 7 or a 2 or whatever? Then they would be stuck in the game for another move. A zero move gaurantees an early exit.

Stevie: Whoops!

grenv: You can spin it anyway you want to make yourself feel better. But the bottom line is that the description is right there for everyone to see when they sign up and everytime they play a move. Anyway all you have to do is go bid 0 and you will be done with this one...

What happens when/if all players make the exact same bid?

Frog diving #1

BIG BAD WOLF: Well, the descriptions are there for a purpose.... I agree that a special game like that could have some mention in the title as well though :)

Here is a list of people who did not read the description of the pond that they signed up for....

Maxxina, Grenv, Nothingness,Hannelore, Fra, pedro, Stromovous, Beach, and Lindaw4.

If all of these players will bid 0 next round, we can get the game back on track?


Grenv.... how much more obvious do you want? It was posted in the game description, and also in the game discussion.

It looks like you have a lot of work to getting people out of your pond who did not follow the rules... I think you should PM everyone and have them all bid 0 in the next round to fall into the pond. The rest of us can bid 1 next round, and then normal moves after that... I hope you can get this all worked out.


PEOPLE PLEASE READ THE POND DESCRIPTIONS THAT YOU ENTER, IT IS VERYFRUSTRATING WHEN YOU DO NOT!