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18. Julio 2004, 00:36:46
Artful Dodger 
Hey, he is on...!! :)

18. Julio 2004, 00:36:35
Brian1971 
You two are fun when you guys get under each other's skin. AD has every right to get on his soapbox with Bill. I cant believe after the KM fiasco he is allowed back here and moderating boards. However I wont get that going again. Enough has been said lately about that. Now wash up for dinner. Grill cookout. Burgers, hot dogs, bratwurst, and chicken with corn on the cob and potato salad. Now that should get you guys in a good mood with each other. LOL

18. Julio 2004, 00:35:22
Purple 
Asunto: Re: Andersp and AD
I have tried to always be there for him :)

18. Julio 2004, 00:33:17
Artful Dodger 
Modificado por Artful Dodger (18. Julio 2004, 01:32:50)
You know I love you Andersp! You just play hard to get ;)

======================

hmmmmm, looks like Andersp deleted ALL his mean posts. I guess he'll suggest he did it because he was off-topic. That's not stopped him before though.

Or

He did it to make my posts and ME look silly. Ha! Jokes on him. I don't need any help to look silly.

;)

18. Julio 2004, 00:30:17
Artful Dodger 
But first I'll go get Andersp some cheese for his whine ;)

18. Julio 2004, 00:29:48
Artful Dodger 
ok Brian, I'll go to my room now. :(

18. Julio 2004, 00:29:09
Artful Dodger 
I do believe Andersp is "complaining" once again. hmmmm

And you should let others speak for themselves. <and you are very touchy!>

oh yeah,

I'm cute. :)

18. Julio 2004, 00:27:38
Brian1971 
Asunto: Andersp and AD
STOP YOUR FIGHTING. Both of you are just fighting for stupid reasons. Andersp, you are not suspected in cheating. Anyone who has played you or Antje knows better than that. AD, you through your comical methods can antagonize. Leave Andersp alone.

18. Julio 2004, 00:25:19
Brian1971 
Asunto: Derek
For you to get brains you need to be a paid member. When you become a member and you get others to sign up as paid members and use you as a referral, you get brains. With the brains you can collect them and when you get enough you can cash them in for additional paid membership later. See the Brains link at the top of the page for details.

18. Julio 2004, 00:24:55
Artful Dodger 
there's no other place to go ;) sides, I don't have any brains either :)

18. Julio 2004, 00:23:39
harley 
Derek, when someone buys a membership, they can have 'brains' given to you. Theres an explanation of it on the - erm - either brains or FAQ page!
Different amounts of brains can be given depending on which membership level is purchased.

18. Julio 2004, 00:21:39
harley 
LOL ok, ok! You're both touchy and neither of you are sorry! Now take it elsewhere ;o)

18. Julio 2004, 00:21:25
CindyInTN 
LoL @ Derek!!

18. Julio 2004, 00:20:36
Derek 
How do I get brains

18. Julio 2004, 00:19:39
Artful Dodger 
Modificado por Artful Dodger (18. Julio 2004, 01:19:28)
it is my real face and you are very touchy!

and harley, I'm not sorry!


hmmmmm, looks like Andersp deleted his post where he said I was too childish and chicken to show my real face.

Didn't he "complain" once about me deleting posts? Guess he was embarassed by his own stupid comment. :)

18. Julio 2004, 00:19:14
Brian1971 
I would show my real face but I dont want to scare the kids on this site. LOL.

18. Julio 2004, 00:09:12
Artful Dodger 
Asunto: We'll here's a hint for you
some people are too touchy ;)

18. Julio 2004, 00:08:49
Andersp 
LOL...trying to convince that cute baby that its suppertime now...not easy :)

18. Julio 2004, 00:06:29
rhiannon 
I'm suspicious. The cute baby in Antje's photo keeps beating me. :)

18. Julio 2004, 00:06:05
gooner 
I surpose you will never be able to "clean up" properly.

18. Julio 2004, 00:05:32
coan.net 
I by NO WAY hinted that all people who use the same computer is cheating - I'm not sure why you are taking things so personal - I was trying to "stick up" for the people who use the same computer, and even gave tips on how those people who do use the same computer could help them not be a target for suspicious.

Andersp - you and your games look fine to me, nothing out of the ordenary. Same with MASTERMINDS games - all look normal.

Please don't "hint" that I was hinting that you were cheating please. :-)

18. Julio 2004, 00:04:15
harley 
LOL Andersp, that wasn't what I meant. I mean its suspicious when people play loads of rated games with one person,and resign after a few moves in each game. Or just lose badly loads of times. Thats whether its the same computer or not. Personally, I'm not suspicious of anyone. If they want to cheat, go ahead! Its not hurting me, if they have a high rating through cheating then I'd like to play them and take some of that rating! Ha ha!

18. Julio 2004, 00:00:36
Andersp 
Gooner..we all know that a lot of people are cheating here in more than one way.

What pisses me off is that its so much noice if we are using the same computer. If i play a friend in Sweden will we be as "monitored" as if i play my wife in the same house?

17. Julio 2004, 23:57:30
gooner 
I mentioned that one incident because of all the goings on, on here in the past which has left a mark on BK. Also I to have been accused of it.

17. Julio 2004, 23:54:26
Fencer 
But I cannot guarantee that nobody will "hint" anymore :-)

17. Julio 2004, 23:53:49
Andersp 
Gooner...read BBWs "thoughts" and Harleys "suspicious behaviour"

17. Julio 2004, 23:52:00
Andersp 
Thanks

17. Julio 2004, 23:51:11
Fencer 
Of course.

17. Julio 2004, 23:50:31
gooner 
Who has hinted that then????

17. Julio 2004, 23:49:52
Andersp 
Fencer..when you announce it, can you please ask that people stop "hinting" that if you use the same computer then you are a cheater!!

17. Julio 2004, 23:43:22
Fencer 
Rod: Well, I wanted to announce it tomorrow along with first team tournament launch.

17. Julio 2004, 23:31:39
rod03801 
Is the User Agreement now official?

Sorry, I thought I remembered it being brought up that it wasn't. Sorry if I didn't notice an update on this.

17. Julio 2004, 23:30:59
gooner 
I just wanted the situation clarified thats all. I certainly wasn't suggesting anything.

17. Julio 2004, 23:30:05
rod03801 
I agree 100% Andersp ..
What's next? You can only play unrated games with friends?

You don't have to live in the same house with someone to pull of some sort of ratings scam..

It is not fair to say that a couple like Antje and Andersp should only be able to play in unrated games together..

17. Julio 2004, 23:30:02
Brian1971 
I agree Andersp. It shows however how a few bad apples past and present put all people like you and Antje under the microscope. It is not fair to you and I know neither you are cheaters. I used to have a roommate and we had 2 different internet hookups in the house. However when her computer crashed she used mine. IYT did not like it so they forced one account to be closed down. There was no cheating going on. That is one of the reasons IYT never got a paid membership from me. However I paid for one here and one for my friend, and part of another one for someone else here. This site is the best on the site. A couple bad instances should not take away from that.

17. Julio 2004, 23:29:37
Fencer 
The User Agreement covers this topic and, as I hope, it's pretty easy to understand.

17. Julio 2004, 23:22:25
Andersp 
Here we go again?

Antje and i play each other in many games, usually we invite to 3 x 9 RATED games and believe me, none of us feel as a "ratingcheater"

If anyone wants to cheat he can as well play someone across the Ocean as easily, i dont understand why it must be so big noise if we sit in the same house?

My rating went down to 1550 something the other night and it was NOT because i helped Antje to a higher rating it was as simple as she had more luck than i had.

We have paid our membership (well Antje donated my membership from Linda's prize tourney to me) so i think we deserve to be treated as "no cheaters".
Why must we on and on have to read this BS about "suspicious cheating" because we sit in the same house?

17. Julio 2004, 23:17:21
Brian1971 
My stand is if you have more than one person using the same computer to play games here, one should have a membership. In the before mentioned case, both Mastermind and Smart Alx are paid members so I dont see any real problems with them playing each other even if it is a rated game. One can tell if the game was rigged or legitimate based on reviewing a game's moves. I know there are exceptions to that statement. For the most though it is verily easy to determine.

17. Julio 2004, 23:16:33
Fencer 
Eriisa: How did you know I've been just watching Star Wars? :-)

17. Julio 2004, 23:09:21
harley 
Smart Alx is Masterminds son.
My son and daughter have been playing here recenty, and we play each other - although we do make sure its unrated games! I think its as BBW says, its ok in most circumstances, but you can help yourself by playing unrated games and playing 'normally', for example, not winning 15 games against your relative in one day so your rating goes very high! Thats just suspicious behaviour!

17. Julio 2004, 23:01:33
Brian1971 
Asunto: Re:
Gooner I know that Smart Alx and mastermind are two different players. I have played both in the past.

17. Julio 2004, 21:45:06
gooner 
This is the reason I ask!!

MASTERMIND 17. July 2004, 20:37:11 viewing game Checkers (SMART ALX vs. MASTERMIND)

17. Julio 2004, 21:41:28
coan.net 
Asunto: My thoughts
(IN MY OPINION) - it is some-what OK - but here are the "rules" I would follow if I were to lets say play my wife in games.

1) Try to play unrated - then you won't get accused of trying to "cheat" the ratings

2) Try not to play too many rated games too fast (if 2 players on the same computer finish games many times a day, it might look suspicious - ESPECIALLY if 1 player wins almost all the games)

17. Julio 2004, 21:36:54
gooner 
Are 2 paid up members using the same computer aloud to play each other???

17. Julio 2004, 21:32:25
bwildman 
may the "farse" be with you ;)

17. Julio 2004, 21:18:53
Eriisa 
Asunto: Solution on the boards
Long long ago... in a galaxy far far away, there were beings who were very unhappy with ways boards were moderated before. Fellowship boards were created to resolve that conflict until things became better. Maybe that is a solution for now????? hmmmmm?

*walks towards the sunset with C3P0 and R2D2*

17. Julio 2004, 20:42:16
bwildman 
if I try to use my "alt" keys...they do what their supposed to when I type...but come back as question marks ?

17. Julio 2004, 20:26:18
coan.net 
I'm glad I'm able to show Fencer another cool feature of this site! :-)

17. Julio 2004, 20:24:54
Fencer 
On the other hand, let's keep this "bug" unfixed :-D

17. Julio 2004, 20:24:23
Fencer 
What?
It must be a bug. I didn't do it purposefully :-)

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