Tuesday: we need a "like" button on here like we do on facebook!! I like that statement!!

The Col: omg thats aweful! we would ALWAYS first use ketamine on the animals then do a direct heart stick with Pentobarbital

Tuesday: I'm still here!! been very sick....just had surgery...got some new titles on my dogs,getting ready to hopefully welcome a 3rd GSD into our family in Dec and planning another trip to Gemany in less then a month....for of course..DOGS!!! I have always and will always love this board!!!

OldFartNamesArt: then I would start with the "watch me" command....a basic focus exercise

OldFartNamesArt: does she know the "watch me" command? I ALWAYS start with that with my dogs before going into any other command....even on trial day..I will say...."Niki,watch me" then when I have her attention I say "foose" and we start heeling

Creepy Old Man: I used it on mine and I use clicker on new dogs I train for others...it really does give the dogs INSTANT feedback.....you can pick up a clicker at Petsmart for a couple bucks...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnRSeuHD_fg&feature=related


you can find different things on youtube but I kind of think this one is funny how he trains the lady here,lol...if you have any questions feel free to ask :)

Tuesday: clicker is instant feedback for the dogs...you say "sit",the dog sits,as SOON as his butt his the floor,you click,then treat....they begin to learn the click means something good (treat) is coming as to when you use just the treat,you have a few seconds before you can get the treat to their mouth

Artful Dodger: yes,I use clicker training on dogs...why??

Tuesday: there are no pics...just the story...there have been 2 cases of this now in the past week

Miss Nik just passed her test last Sunday to become a certified therapy dog!!!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/649021463


are being sold for experimental research

Snoopy: that was funny!

Tuesday: OMG,I have seen that one before..amazing how people can just throw an animal away like that...if there is a hell,people like THAT should be going to it after this life

rod03801: I had a friend with a dog and a cat, and he never had to clean the kitty litter. The dog took care of it.(a quote off that site,lol) how about giving the damn dog an egg a few times a week instead of letting it do THAT...thats friggin nasty on the owners part,lol

Tuesday: there are a couple reasons they sya dogs do that..one is a mineral deficancy (she on a one a day vitamin?) another they say is because it is a learned behvior from watching the mother dogs clean up the den (or whelping box,lol) and yet another is that when dogs are in the wild,they will alot of times eat theirs and other dogs in their pacts feceses so other animals don't know they are in the area as easily.
I would defianatly scoop everytime kitty goes :)

Artful Dodger: I'm only a pawn so I can't take it back

Tuesday: that was a nice story :)

Tuesday: wow..where to start on THIS one,lol...first off,if the girl was on the fence enough to look OVER it then she was on private property as fences must be a cetain ways off the property line.Second,the dog was doing what a dog does,protecting its own,Third....I trained 2 pitbulls over the summer,the male tried to bite (not nip,full out BITE me) 4 times within the first 10 minutes of meeting me,he and his sister had issues,to long and to many to go into right now,but after only 3 months of me working with them,the male was my best bud at the end of our time together and was trying to crawl into my lap for hugs.
Everyone here knows that I have GSD's....BOTH are trained,Damien holds 4 titles to date,I could FREE HEEL him through a group of 20 of you and he wouldn't even acknowledge you,but come up to my fence and stick a finger through it..I dare ya.
Why do people do stupid things and then want to blame others.UGH!

Jim Dandy: I know...but I am almost POSITIVE that I heard they were trying to get that issue rasied because of how brittle the bones still are.

Jim Dandy: aren't they also trying to get the horses age limit raised so they are not so young when they run?

Tuesday: I LOVE that commercial,LOL

no,private breeder

The incoming VP just picked out a GSD!!! altho I think it is a showline....*sighs dramatically* lol...oh well,at least it is a GSD

Tuesday: what happened to her litter mates??

Snoopy: lmao...a dog is a dog....people like these ones are the reason dogs are becoming unstable...they are not being allowed to just be what nature intended...DOGS.
People try to humanize them and that is one of the MOST unhealthy things you can do to it...if you truly love your dog,you will let it be what it is.

Snoopy: omg

Snoopy: thats sick..

Jim Dandy: Buster and one of HIS cats...that was to cute!

Tuesday: lmao..I do charge...only a VERY few...YOU included,lol...that I do free of charge

Jim Dandy: ummmm,no,lol....I said walk around...not dance like your in a strip show,LOL!!!

Tuesday: training is VERY therapeutic,lol...unfortunately,alot of people stop after a few times becuase they don't get INSTANT results.it takes alot of time,and alot of patience to train dogs.When YOU are less anxious,the dogs will be too..
I seriously mean it when I say..if I could live out on the trainging field with my dogs,I would...I ave taken a few clients on,free of charge because they trully needed help,didn't HAVE the money to pay,and I wanted the dogs to have a shot to be calm and happy...my most recent was 2 pitbuuls,man they were crazy the first time I met them..the male tried to bite me FOUR friggin times in the first 10 minutes of meeting them...OIY...after 7 weeks,he was one of my best buds!!! I miss those 2 dogs!! (they graduated btw!!) she has to work more social parts with them before they can move on to the more advanced training that I can do for her and the dogs...
Please just be consistant with them..I hear so much...I don;t have time..I ask people...do you sit and watch the commercials during a show...98% say yep,I sure do...then ya have time right there to do an excersise with your dogs :)

yeah..I mean,sometimes you HAVE to take the dogs before they are REALLY trained to behave...life happens,lol...but yes..ONLY do the first steps...your not going to go ANYWHERE...so,go get in your jammies and slippies and just start working the steps......
So many times when I show people how to go out the door first (yes,people REALLY have no clue how to do that...thats what they pay me for,lol) They will say,well then,I have to take the dog out for a walk/ride/etc..right?? and I say....nope,the dog never even has to leave the house.....
What the goal is here,hun,is to just get the use to SEEING you go through the motions of putting on your shoes and getting your keys in your hands and waking to the door...after you walk to the door...turn around,hang the keys up,take your shoes off,put your slippies back on and go make some hot cocoa or something....and please remember,after this,they will still be jumpy and whiny....do NOT tell them...ohhh,it's ok...or settle down...you say NOTHING to them,period....walk around like YOU are the Queen of your house...because you are ;)

Tuesday: no,no,lol...I meant to start to desensitize them...you need to really do THOSE steps first...the shoes,the keys...that part needs to be done first....and nothing works the first time,LOL....I need YOU to be mentally preparred of having to do the shoes/keys things for ...oh,probably a good SOLID 3-5 days.....yes,I said DAYS before moving onto the next step

Tuesday: kk,you REALLY,REALLY need to start with the steps I told you about tho first...I know,someimes you HAVE to go,lol....but like while you are watching TV this evening...during the commercial breaks,start doing the steps I told you about....even get the leashs out and just set them by the door..they have to..and WILL learn that JUST BECAUSE things are happening,it doesn't mean we get to act like fruitloops...you will giggle to yourself the first few times,because even AFTER you take your shoes off and hang your keys up and go sit down,they will be dancing around like...COME ON,COME ON!!! this needs to be baby stepped,Tuesday...I PROMISE you,it WILL WORK....but only IF you do it in the order it needs to be done :) good luck!!!

Tuesday: I would double check with your local agency,but I would say,no,she has no rights to the dog at this point...quick question...is YOUR name on her dog license??
I would say that...since you have been taking her to the vet,buying her food and providing the daily care,she is YOUR dog...If you can prove,by receipts or even just the vet records would work that YOU have been the one providing the care,she really has no claim on the dog anymore and you have every right to keep her...
Now,onto the first part of your post...YOU have to go out he door first..YOU have to come in the door first...If you know all about the alpha dog,then you know by allowing THEM to do ANYTHING first,you are giving THEM alpha rights in YOUR home.
How has the exercise of the shoes/keys thing been going??

Jim Dandy: most of it with Damien is that is drive is SO high...he isn't fixed either,so he has all that testoserone racing through his body...I have the screaming thing under control now and he still has his high drive,so it all worked out :)

Tuesday: lmao..that ione of the FIRST things I usually ask my clients ;) is there anyway you can chnage that when you are HOME with the dogs?...if not,we will work around it..but feeding time to a dog is MAJORLY important,and so is the way it is done...ok..next questions then for you.....when you do go out with the dogs...who goes through the door first and then who comes back intot he house first after the walk or car ride or whatever...be honest here too,please,lol....the more I know about the lil things like that,the better I can help you in the long run!!

Jim Dandy: lord..I think I WOULD have turned around if THAT noise had come from him,lol!! I looked and looked on youtube to see if I could find something similar to what D use to do...but I can't...if anyone has ever owned a GSD...then you would know that famous..GSD whine....well,take that,itensify it by about 35....add a slight howl/bark,and make the pitch REALLY high and blood curdling...and then ya have what he use to do,lol.It was so bad,my niece and I couldn't have a conversation in the van because we couldn't hear each other

Tuesday: Tuesday...this is not a lie...when we brought Damien home from the kennal we got him from I was THIS close to turning around and taking him back because he SCREAMED the whole way home...I thought,well,he's a baby,he's scared...almost ONE YEAR later it was still SO bad that your head would be pounding and you would be in a REALLY pissy mood by the time we got to the club because of his screaming..I don't mean whining..I mean SCREAMING!
Now,I can drive anywhere with both dogs in the van and never hear a peep out of Damien.Miss Nik has always been quite in the van..I PROMISE you,if you follow through with what I am going to have you do..it WILL get better.
Problem so many times is that people want that instant fix and unfortunaly,that is just not possible.
This past summer,I had probably...5 people that came to me for training..I would ask..what do you need/want/your expectations..their answer was always..ALWAYS...I want my dog to act like yours.I would tell them,well,Damien is almost THREE YEARS OLD...it does not happen over night..ok,ok,we get it..thats what I would hear.When they don't get that INSTANT result,they would give up..ya just can't give up.....think of it like this...you know how he is all jumpy and whiny,and excited...now step back and think..if YOU were in that state of mind...would you really be happy?? Think of how you feel when you are anxious...not a good feeling is it?? THAT is what your dog feels EVERYTIME he gets into that "excited" state of mind...that is why I am having you start with this excersise...so he (and your others) will see..HEY! mom is putting on her shoes..OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!!!...then you take them off and go sit down..they are still like..OMG!OMG!OMG!!..then they see you NOT going out the door...eventually the goal is that they will see you going for your shoes,and the keys and think...eh,who cares,lol....THAT is when we will move onto the next step...but not one minute before.
one question tho that I didn't ask you...when they eat..is the food down all day or are there set times?? you should see the question list I have for my clients,lol....it's like an interview,LOL!

Tuesday: I understand that,hun..BUT you can't get from A to Z without going through the alphabet...you HAVE to train this in steps....you need to get the excitement under control before you ever step out the door.

no,lol...you can't squirt them...and actually...after you come back from your walk is the PERFECT time to start the training.....when I have people's dogs that I train...we go for a 10 minute walk FIRST...then train for about 20...walk again for 10,a bit more training and then a short relax,play time before leaving each other!! good luck!! and remember...this is a full time commitment you need to make to them and yourself!! :)

lTuesday: ok...the first step then for you is...go over and put your shoes on...pick up your keys and walk to the door....DO NOT talk to the dogs,pet the dogs or in any way acknowledge them even being there....if they start whining or dancing around...there can be no..."oh,it's ok" or "be quite" NOTHING at all is to be said...ok???
Once you get to the door...turn around,hang your keys back up,take your shoes off and come back and sit down,if you were on the puter...come back to the puter and continue..if you are watchingTV,then go sit and watch tv...even AFTER you are sitting back down..the dogs wil still be anxious...please,please,PLEASE...still NO TALKING to or petting them,ok??
In about 5 minutes...repeat this process..same steps,same way...NEVER talking or petting them during the excersise.
You will need to do this...every 5 minutes...do it for about a half hour...then just stop and let them relax...only AFTER they are relaxed can you pet or talk to them...You need to do this excersise...maybe a TOTAL of 3 to say 7 times for every hour that you are home...I know this seems like alot...but TRUST me...this will work...it WILL NOT work the first time,or even after 5 times....might take a few days a week..but it WILL work ;)
Let me know after the first night of you doing it...lets say...about 20 times of working the routine...tell me if the dogs are settling any.

Tuesday: all 3 will have to go through the same traning excerses tho....most times,while people are first starting the training,it is much easier to seperate them....so,lets say Oz is the one that gives you the biggest problem.....crate the other 2 in the basement,or something like that so that it will be just you and Oz one on one...BUT you actaully CAN start one small step (by the way hun...this kind of training is a LOT of baby steps,so it does take some time....) When does he FIRST start to act up...is it when you grab your keys? put the collars on them..grab the leashes..I need the PRECISE moment he gets himself worked up...so,if your not sure....go through your routine like you guys are getting ready to go soemwhere and watch him for the first signs,and then let me know :)

let me know when you are home and settled and we will start your dog training by proxy!! :)

Damien got high tracking!!! which means out of all the dogs that tracked...he got the highest score! He is so awesome,he worked his butt off for me for that!! If it was raining,he would track,wind,he would track,fog,cold,hot,dry,that dog would track because I asked him to and he loves to do it...my heart is BURSTING with pride right now!
And Thanks Do...I cannot express the pride I have for him right now!!
This makes his fouth title...and now we will go back to a more regular training program,less ridgid since trials are all over with!

well,Miss NIk decided it was WAY more fun to goof off and play in the snow (about 7 inches on the field) the to work...it was ok tho,even tho she failed the Bh,I still had a blast with her out there...
Damien tracked his best track to date with a 94 out of a possible 100 points!! I am so proud of him!

Tuesday: Thank you!! getting into the shower now and niece is on her way over!!

Tuesday: oh,awesome! we will have fun,lol! Usually I go to people houses to see the dogs in action and eval them and then help,but since this will all be done via dis board,it might seem like I am asking you a ton of questions in the process...I am,lol...

Tuesday: I'd be more then happy to talk you through the process of desensitizing him,if you would like...honestly,first thing,the way he enters the car would change....him getting in in an excited state needs to be changed...first step would be to calm him before he ever gets into to the car....let me know if your interested in the steps and I will be more then happy to share with you!!
It will have to wait tho till this evening because Damien and Miss Nik have a dog trial today...both are going for new titles....wish us luck!!!