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Asunto: Re: so why can't you respect my intelligence by answering one simple question?
Artful Dodger: "You and I are so much alike it's scary!"
You know what I think is scary? I used to wonder why you got frustrated so easily and called people idiots and morons... now I'm getting frustrated and wanting to do the same.
I could be wrong, but I don't think it's because they are stupid. I think the intellectual baby talk and moronic reasoning is just a cover for intellectual dishonesty... because who in their right mind actually thinks saving babies is the same as 'saving' soldiers?
Saving soldiers from what, from being ripped from their mothers wombs? Or how about this, saving babies by not giving them guns and sending them into war before they are born...???
Oh wait, I get it now! Of course! Saving soldiers from being arbitrarily aborted. How could I have missed the connection... woof woof sniff sniff lick lick woof bark sniff lick.
Asunto: Re: Of course people have the right to respond or to not respond, so other than proving how transparently hypocritical you can be, you have made no other point here.
Iamon lyme: Not really, it's been a long time problem with conservatives not answering.. So if you have the right not to, then others do as well.
Asunto: Re: so why can't you respect my intelligence by answering one simple question?
Modificado por Iamon lyme (4. Octubre 2012, 23:22:35)
(V): Iamon lyme: [ Because no-one on this board is obliged to answer any question if they choose not to. ]
Have you read any of your own past posts? I distinctly remember you demanding Dan and I to answer you, and we weren't even involved in the discussion. It was about abortion. I answered you, not because I had to but because I wanted to, and then you chose to ignore the answer. Of course people have the right to respond or to not respond, so other than proving how transparently hypocritical you can be, you have made no other point here.
Apparently I'm taking unfair advantage by remembering what some of you have said. So I appologize for disrespectively taking the time to think about what you've said, instead of simply reacting like a barking dog...
woof woof, what's that? what's that over there? Oh, gotta pee! what's that woof woof, what's that over there, what's that, gotta pee, sniff sniff, hey man that's good stuff, what's that over there? woof woof sniff sniff gotta pee again what's that over there?
Asunto: Re: so why can't you respect my intelligence by answering one simple question?
The Col: To coin a phrase.. If I had a dime for every question that others have not answered on this board... I'd have a lot of dimes... or 5p's.. which people generally do find anyway as they are so small... but I'd I loads
Artful Dodger: LoL Bite you where? You're nothing but bone... not even skin and bone. No matter where they bite, all they'll get is a mouthful of bone... you gonna keep that pic up until after Halloween?
But I applaud your strategy. By keeping responses down to only two words, you've insured their minds don't have time to wander before you've finished your message.
Asunto: Re: so why can't you respect my intelligence by answering one simple question?
(V): Sometimes you have to just let it go.I never got a response from "uber" when I asked him if he still felt our Prime Minister was an idiot for closing the embassy in Iran shortly before the American embassy attack in Libya.
Repeating words and phrases over and over again but never explaining what they mean is intellectual baby talk. And taking one word or phrase out of context and ragging on and on about it is intellectually moronic.
Passionately reading lines from a teleprompter or repeating lines that have been memorized is called "acting". Passion is an emotion you feel because you believe in what you are saying. If you need to fake passion to get your point across, then you don't really understand (or care about) the issues.
If all you can think about is winning, and persuading others to vote for your candidate, then all you doing is watching a "beauty contest" and hoping your contestant wins the prize.
The presidency is not a prize. It's a job. If you go out to get a job, and you get the job, you did not win a prize... and you will actually be expected to perform some sort of useful work for whoever hired you.
mckinley: [ You can remember a post from July but not September. ]
If I didn't remember the post from September, then I wouldn't have asked what you meant.
[ I said people weren't fighting because slavery was immoral. ]
Yep, that's what I remember you saying.
[ I don't think I'm vague. ]
Nope, that was clear enough.
[ I thought I was respecting ppl's intelligence. ]
So why not respect mine? All I wanted to know was if the war was not about morality, and slavery not an issue, why was there a war to begin with?
When Ubber compared abortion to war and guns, I explained why I believe those are different issues. And I explained to you my own limited understanding of why there was a war between the North and South. I respected your intelligence by explaining my position, so why can't you respect my intelligence by answering one simple question?
Obama's the equivalent of a basketball player who has a "sweet spot" on the court where he's virtually unstoppable. The best example is Kareem Abdul Jabbar and his famous "sky hook," the deadliest shot in NBA history. The key to stopping Kareem was to deny him his "sweet spot" before he set up there and launched it.
Obama's "sweet spot" is in front of a teleprompter. When he's there he's the silver-tongued lothario that slickly seduced a nation into electing him president four years ago. But when he's sans teleprompter and forced to speak extemporaneously, he's all "ums" and "ahs," displaying all the rhetorical skills and command of the facts as Mushmouth, the blubbering, slack-jawed simpleton from the cartoon "Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids." Obama just dresses better.
I knew that there were idiots on here that would focus on a word rather than focus on the author of that word. Quoting someone who uses the "N" word is to show you fools who is really behind the racist history in America. Yet you would rather pick on the use of the word in a quote than to actually address the policies of the liberals that actually promote a subtle form of racism. If a conservative had said those words, the liberals would never forget it. But because a liberal president said them, it's ignored and then forgotten. Blind fools.
Artful Dodger: Was that too easy, or did I tip my hand with the hint?
I thought of this tonight, as I was puttering around the house. I do that a lot, I putter around and think about things like that. putt putt putt putt putt... and sometimes with puttering sound effects, thanks to the sort of food I to eat... what was I talking about? Oh yeah, so anyway it occurred to me that if I bet on Obama and win, I'll at least have a bit more to fall back on when Obama fulfills his promise to finish the job... *shudder*. If Romney wins I lose the bet, but in the long run I'll have more than if I won betting on Obama. As weird this sounds, it's actually not a bad idea. I wonder if anyone else is thinking the same thing, or plans on doing it for the same reason?
Iamon lyme: if u bet on Obama and he wins, you win the bet and the money. If you lose the bet you still win money as taxes go down as does the cost of living.
Artful Dodger: LoL The Winner! What? So now boxing referees are on strike? Sheesh!
There is no way the cartoonist could have drawn and published that so soon after the debate... he knew the fix was in. lol
By the way, if I was going to bet on who wins the election, the smartest bet I could make would be to bet that Obama wins. You're a smart feller, so can you tell me why I might want to do that? I'll give you one hint... there is a financially logical reason for making that kind of bet.
"Chipping away" at you? Okay then, next time you say something like the south didn't lose because of morality, they lost because they ran out supplies, instead of trying to get you to clarify I'll just offer my heartfelt condolences and say something like...
"Well darn it, if you didn't run out of supplies then maybe you could of won that war. It's darn shame, especially since you had to give up using a cost efficient and hard working work force, people who worked for practically nothin' whether they wanted to or not."
By the way, you don't don't need to feel flattered or scared. I'm not the sort of riff raff you need to be at all concerned about, one way or the other.
Modificado por Papa Zoom (4. Octubre 2012, 12:18:39)
So children, what have we learned? Well, it appears that the liberals are the party of hate and war. They get involved in more wars, dropped "The Bomb" on innocent women and children literally frying them alive, and are solely responsible for the race hatred of history AND race hatred of today as well.
And who will forget good old LBJ? Here's a quote rarely mentioned. I don't use the "N" word like this but am quoting him exactly. For those of you who object, good for you. You should hate that word. But it is important to quote exactly because my premise is that the Democrats ARE the racists of history AND still racists today.
The following quotes are LBJ quotes:
“I’ll have those negros voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One -
“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”—LBJ
1) What candidate for the 2008 Republican nomination, pressed to pay a compliment to then-Senator Barack Obama, described him as surprisingly "articulate and bright and clean" for a black guy?
--->Sorry, it wasn't a Republican. Again, a democrat: Joe Biden this time.
2) What Republican Senator was 65 years old before he had the earth-shattering revelation that "black people love their children" just like white people do?
---> Opps. Not a Republican....another Democrat. This time it's the Democrat’s favorite Ku Klux Klansman - Robert Byrd.
3) What Republican governor literally stood in the doorway of a school to prevent African-Americans from integrating it?
--->In 1963, both Governor George Wallace of Alabama and Governor Ross Barnett of Mississippi physically stood in the path of black students attempting to register at their respective State Universities. George Wallace and Ross Barnett -- BOTH DEMOCRATS.
Wallace would go on to serve multiple terms as governor, and ran for president several times on an explicitly racist platform. In 1972 he won the North Carolina, Michigan, Maryland, Florida, Tennessee and Florida primaries. And who was voting for him? -- DEMOCRATS.
and remembrer when Governor Orval Faubus sent the Arkansas National Guard to "protect" Central High School in Little Rock from nine teenagers determined to get an education there. Orval Faubus -- DEMOCRAT. And who forced the Governor to back down, allowing the Little Rock Nine to integrate the school in safety? President Dwight Eisenhower -- REPUBLICAN.
4) What Republican politician said then-candidate Obama had a political advantage as a black man who doesn’t look or sound like one?
-->oops again....Harry Reid has acknowledged describing then-Senator Obama as a better political candidate for being "light-skinned" rather than dark-skinned, and for speaking "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to.''
5) What Republican governor coined the slogan "Segregation Forever"?
--->That was George Wallace again, who capped his inaugural address in 1962 with the words:
6) What former Republican president waxed nostalgic for the days when someone who looked like Barack Obama could only get into the White House by putting on a white jacket and pouring coffee?
--->Bill Clinton tried to pick up Ted Kennedy‘s endorsement for Hillary. Kennedy was reportedly livid over the conversation, telling friends later that Clinton had belittled Obama by saying:
"A few years ago, this guy would be getting us coffee."
Another report has Clinton complaining to Kennedy:
"The only reason you are endorsing him is because he's black."
7) What Republican First Lady told an ethnic joke about civil rights icon Mahatma Gandhi?
--->Ah, the Clintons. America’s fountain of controversy that never runs dry.
You may already be familiar with the incident. Below is the official version, reproduced, almost word-for-word, by every news organ I could find on the internet:
During (a fund-raiser in Missouri) for Senate candidate Nancy Farmer, Clinton introduced a quote from Gandhi by saying, "He ran a gas station down in St. Louis." After laughter from many in the crowd of at least 200 subsided, the former first lady continued, "No, Mahatma Gandhi was a great leader of the 20th century."
Not only joined the Ku Klux Klan, but actively recruited his own chapter. In his autobiography, he credits this experience as his inspiration for entering politics.
Used "that word" on TV. Yes, THAT WORD. The six-letter word that starts with the letter N. He said it, twice, in a TV interview.
Years after claiming to have severed his ties to the Klan, he wrote a letter to the Imperial Wizard stating, "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth ... in every state in the nation."
Opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, including filibustering for 14 hours in a vain attempt to keep the Senate from passing it.
Protested the racial integration of America's military with these words: "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again...."
One of only 18 Senators to vote against the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
The only Senator to have voted against the confirmation of both Thurgood Marshall, the first black Supreme Court Justice, and Clarence Thomas, the second black Supreme Court Justice.
---> It's the Democrats; specifically Democrat Robert Byrd, Senator from West Virginia, the longest-serving politician in American history, and a hero to Democrats.
World War One (The War to End all Wars) - Started by a Liberal Democrat (Woodrow Wilson) More than 11 Million Dead and Millions .
World War Two - Started by a Liberal Democrat (Franklin D. Roosevelt) 62 Million Dead, Many more Millions Mamed and wounded
I kinda got taught that WWI was started by the assassination of an Arch Duke. but now I know I'm wrong because Republican history now says, blame it on the liberals.
I kinda got taught that WWII was started by Hitler. Even though some historians say it did start with the Japan/Chinese wars.but now I know I'm wrong because Republican history now says, blame it on the liberals.
I wonder now if a guy I watched on youtube had a valid point, regarding the new type of maths. Christian Maths.
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:09:51 PM by Xing Daorong
In uncertain times such as these, when our nation is at war with enemies in two nations, one must wonder what party has the steel to see an operation through properly, and what party would avoid confronting unessecary conflicts. Today it is the Republicans who are largely labeled "warmongers" especially in my home state (NJ) and throughout the Northeast. But side to side, lets see which party really has started or involved us in more wars, we shall start with the hot spot of past military interventions, Latin America.
Republican:
Argentina- 1890 Chile- 1891 Haiti- 1891 Spanish-American War 1898 (Cuba and Puerto Rico seized, Major Military Intervention) Nicaragua- 1898-99 Honduras- 1903 Dominican Republic- 1903-04 Cuba- 1906-09 Nicaragua- 1907 Honduras- 1907 Panama- 1908 Nicaragua- 1910 Honduras- 1911 Cuba- 1912 Panama- 1912 Honduras- 1912 Honduras- 1924-25 Panama- 1925 El Salvador- 1932 Guatemala- 1954-? (Major Covert CIA Military Intervention) Panama- 1958 Chile- 1973 El Salvador- 1981-92 (Major Covert CIA Military Intervention, "Iran-Contra Affair", War against the Sandanistas) Honduras- 1982-90 Grenada- 1983-84 (Operation Urgent Fury, Marxist regime ousted, quick withdrawal, moderate military intervention) Bolivia- 1987 Panama- 1989 (Operation Just Cause, Manuel Noreiga captured, regime ousted, quick withdrawal, major military intervention) Haiti- 2004 (occupation following Aristide's violent overthrow)
Total: 28 Major Military Intervention: 4 Moderate Military Intervention: 1
Republican and Democratic:
Nicaragua- 1912-33 (Major Military Intervention, fight against Nicaraguan insurgents.) Haiti- 1914-34 (Major Military Operation, 19 year occupation of Haiti following revolts) Dominican Republic- 1916-24 (Major Military Intervention,8 year occupation of Dominican Republic) Cuba- 1917-33 (16 year occupation of Cuba, Major Military Intervention)
Democratic: Nicaragua- 1894-96 Panama- 1895 Mexico- 1913 Dominican Republic- 1914 Mexico- 1914-18 (Major Military Intervention) Panama- 1918-20 Honduras- 1919 Guatemala- 1920 Costa Rica- 1921 Panama- 1921 Uruguay- 1947 Puerto Rico- 1950 (Moderate Scale Military Intervention) Cuba 1961- (Bay of Pigs, Major Covert Military Intervention) Cuba 1962- (Cuban Missile Crisis) Panama- 1964 Dominican Republic- 1965-66 (Operation Power Pack, dictator Trujillo overthrown and quick withdrawal, major military intervention) Guatemala- 1966-67 (Moderate Military Intervention) Haiti- 1994-95 (Major Military Intervention, Raul Cedres steps down, Jean Bertrand Aristide installed, quick withdrawal)
Total: 18 Major Military Interventions: 4 Moderate Military Interventions: 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- As we can see, the Democratic Party has intervened 10 times less than the Republican Party, but take a closer look. Of the three major American military occupations in Latin America (Cuba, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic), all three have been initiated under Democratic president Woodrow Wilson, the War in Nicaragua was over seen by Wilson throughout his whole two terms in office, it was started by Republican president William Taft and seen through one Democratic and two Republican administrations. Four major military interventions occured under the watch of both parties, the Republicans had two fatal faliures in the covert operations, while they had two light successes in Panama and Grenada, although overall the commitment to the wars was minescule. The Democrats had three fatal faliures in the Bay of Pigs, the Dominican Republic, and Haiti and a light success in Guatemala.
Note: Most of these interventions were small scale and around election time violence in many nations.
Onto the rest of the military interventions.
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1 posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:09:52 PM by Xing Daorong
1831-32 – Falkland Islands 1832 – Sumatra (Indonesia) 1833 - Argentina 1835-36 - Peru 1836 - Mexico.(Moderate Military Intervention) 1838-39 – Sumatra (Indonesia) 1840 - Fiji Islands 1841 - Drummond Island, Kingsmill Group (Pacific Ocean) 1841 – Samoa 1846 - Bear Flag Revolt 1846-48 - Mexican-American War (Major Military Operation, Mexico cedes 1/3 of it's territories) 1849 – Smyrna (Izmir, Turkey) 1852-53 - Argentina 1853 - Nicaragua 1853-54 - Japan (Mathew Perry's "Opening of Japan") 1853-54 - Ryukyu and Bonin Islands (Japan) 1854 - China 1854-58 - Nicaragua 1855 - China 1855 - Fiji Islands 1855 - Uruguay 1856 - Panama, Republic of New Grenada 1856 - China 1857-1858 - Utah War 1858 - Uruguay 1858 - Fiji Islands 1858-59 - Turkey 1859 - Paraguay 1859 - Mexico 1859 - China 1860 - Angola, Portuguese West Africa 1860 - Colombia, Bay of Panama 1865 -- Panama. - March 9 and 10. US forces protected the lives and property of American residents during a revolution. 1866 - Mexico 1866 - China 1867 - Nicaragua (Moderate Military Operation) 1867 - Formosa (island of Taiwan) 1868 - Japan (Osaka, Hiolo, Nagasaki, Yokohama, and Negata) 1868 - Uruguay 1868 - Colombia 1885 - Panama (Colon) 1888 - Korea 1888 - Haiti 1888-89 - Samoa 1889 - Hawaiian Islands 1893 -- Hawaii 1894 - Brazil 1894 - Nicaragua 1894-95 - China 1894-95 - China 1894-96 - Korea 1895 - Colombia 1895-96 - Venezuela 1896 - Nicaragua 1913 - Mexico 1914 - Haiti 1916 - China 1917 - China 1917-18 - World War I. (Major Military Intervention) 1918-20 - Soviet Union (Polar Bear Expedition) 1919 - Dalmatia (Croatia) 1919 - Turkey 1920 - China 1932 - China 1934 - China 1936 - Spanish Civil War (Abraham Lincoln Brigades) 1941 - Greenland 1941 - Netherlands (Dutch Guiana) 1941 - Iceland 1941 - Germany (Pre-war patrols sent, Moderate Military Intervention) 1941-45 - World War II (Major Military Intervention) 1945 - China (Assistance to Nationalist rebels, Major Military Intervention) 1945-1949 Occupation of part of Germany 1945-1955 Occupation of part of Austria 1945-1946 Occupation of part of Italy 1945-1952 Occupation of Japan 1945-1946 - Phillipines 1945-1949 - South Korea (Occupation of South Korea and defeat of a leftist insurgency, Major Military Operation) 1945-47 - China 1948 - Palestine 1948 - Berlin (Airlift) 1948-49 - China 1950-53 - Korean War (Major Military Operation) 1962 - Thailand 1963 - Iraq (CIA backed coup of Iraqi dictator Abdul Karim Qassim) 1964 - Congo 1964 - Brazil 1967 - Congo 1968 - Iraq (CIA backed pro-Ba'ath coup bringing down Arif government) 1978 -- Zaire (Congo) 1980 - Iran (Operation Eagle Claw, ends in faliure) 1980 - Iran (Hostage rescue attempt) 1981 - El Salvador 1981 - Libya 1993-1995 - Somalia (Operation Continued Hope ends in faliure,Moderate Military Intervention, quick withdrawal) 1991-1996 - Iraq (Operation Provide Comfort) 1993 - Macedonia 1994-1996 - Rwanda (Post-genocide) 1994 - Macedonia 1995 - Bosnia (Operation Deliberate Force, Moderate Military Intervention) 1996 - Liberia 1996 - Central African Republic 1997 - Albania 1997 - Congo and Gabon (same day) 1997 - Sierra Leone 1997 - Cambodia 1998 - Iraq (Operation Desert Fox, Moderate Military Intervention) 1998 - Guinea-Bissau 1998-1999 - Kenya and Tanzania (post-bombings) 1998 - Afghanistan and Sudan (Operation Infinite Reach, ends in faliure, taking out 1/2 Sudan's medical supplies and missing Osama bin Laden, Moderate Military Intervention) 1998 - Liberia 1999-2001 - East Timor 1999 - War in Kosovo (Moderate-Major Military Intervention) 2000 - Sierra Leone 2000 - Yemen (Post U.S.S Cole bombings)
1861-1865 - American Civil War (Major Military Intervention) 1865-1877 - Post Civil War Reconstruction 1863-64 - Japan 1870 - Mexico 1870 - Hawaiian Islands 1871 - Korea (Minor Military Intervention) 1873 - Colombia (Bay of Panama) 1874 - Hawaiian Islands 1876 - Mexico 1882 - Egypt 1885 - Panama (Colon) 1891 - Bering Strait 1893 - Hawaii 1898-1899 -- Samoa (Samoan Civil War) 1898-99 - China 1899-1913 - Philippines (American-Phillipine War, Major Military Intervention) 1900 - China 1903 - Syria 1903-04 - Abyssinia (Ethiopia) 1904 - Tangier, Morocco 1904-05 -- Korea 1911-12 - China 1912 - Turkey 1922 - Turkey 1922-27 - China (series of small protective interventions) 1932 - China 1950-55 - Formosa (Taiwan) 1954-55 - China 1956 - Egypt 1958 - Lebanon (Moderate Military Intervention, Anti-Rebel Operation) 1974 - Cyprus 1976 - Lebanon 1976 - Korea 1982 - Sinai 1982-1983 - Lebanon (Lebanese Civil War, Moderate Military Intervention) 1983 - Egypt 1983 - Chad 1984 - Persian Gulf 1985 - Italy (Counter terrorism) 1986 - Libya (Operation El Dorado Canyon, Libyan infastructure bombed and warplanes downed following discovery of Mohmar Quadahfi's links to terrorist attacks, Moderate Military Intervention) 1987-1988 - Persian Gulf (Operation Earnest Will, Operation Prime Chance, protection of Kuwaiti and American oil tankers, strikes against Iranian military) 1989 - Libya 1989 - Philippines 1990 - Liberia 1991 - First Gulf War (Iraq, Major Military Intervention) 1991 - Zaire 1992 - Sierra Leone 1990 - Saudi Arabia 1992 - Kuwait 2001 - Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan, Major Military Operation) 2002 -- Yemen (UAV strike kills terrorist) 2002 -- Philippines 2002 --Cote d'Ivoire 2003-Present - Second Gulf War (Iraq, Major Military Intervention) 2003 - Liberia 2003 - Georgia and Djibouti 2006 - Pakistan (UAV kills al-Qaeda affiliates) 2006 - Lebanon
2 posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:10:37 PM by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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Military Interventions/Conflicts entered or Started by Democratic Party:
134
**Vietnam is added on due to the authorization of direct military force by the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, Richard Nixon drew down and withdrew troops but was also involved in the bombings of Vietcong in Laos and Cambodia, Dwight Eisenhower sent "advisors", this is also a direct intervention, 1 point will be added to both sides for good measure.**
Military Interventions/Conflicts entered or Started by Republican Party:
87
Average interventions per Democrat President:
9
Average interventions per Republican President:
5
What President Intervened Militarily More than Any Other?
World War One (The War to End all Wars) - Started by a Liberal Democrat (Woodrow Wilson) More than 11 Million Dead and Millions .
World War Two - Started by a Liberal Democrat (Franklin D. Roosevelt) 62 Million Dead, Many more Millions Mamed and wounded
Korean War( The Forgotten War) - Started by a Left Wing Liberal Democrat ( Harry S. Truman) 8 Million Plus Dead Millions mamed and wounded.
New-Q-Ler (Atomic)Bombs Dropped on Japan - By a Left Wing Liberal Democrat ( Harry S. Truman) 250 Thousand Dead
Bay of Pigs War/Invasion - Started by a Left Wing Liberal Democrat ( John F. Kennedy) Lots and Lots Dead and wounded Building of the Berlin Wall - Allowed to occur by a Left Wing Liberal Democrat ( John F. Kennedy) Enough Dead
Vietnam War (The Spit on American Soldiers War) - Started by a Left Wing Liberal Democrat (John F. Kennedy) Millions and Millions Dead and Millions Mamed & wounded.
Asunto: Re: He has to bring in unrelated points because his arguments can't stand on their own two feet.
Artful Dodger: That's a strawman argument.
The cons are good at this (or bad if you want to be accurate). Instead of talking about the points being made, they bring in talk about the morality of religion. Ignorance runs rampant in con thinking.
This graph is a very false and misleading way of looking at the improvement under President Obama, and for more reasons than the fact that the biggest gainer on the list, Reagan , had 8 years and a congress more than happy to do the deficit spending--i.e. "stimulus"-- needed to recover, and other reasons that you attempt to "yes" away. This graph disengenuously manipulates the data to Hide the "yes" fact that the Bush Era Jobs Trough Recession was losing us jobs at maximum pace when Obama took office. That massive loss momentum was then turned around under Obama, from losses of 600,000-800,000 a month to GAINS of jobs within one year. For accurate graphs that show the recovery, see the BLS charts below.
160,000 jobs added in a month this month are more than were added in 23 of 24 of Bush2's last 24 months in office from Feb07 to Jan09 (and 14 of those Bush months were jobs loss months).
Total Number Employed (nonfarm) has risen for 22 straight months now (that's 22 months of jobs gains, and 25 months gaining out of the last 29), and is up over 4million since the bottom of the Bush Era Recession Job Trough in late 2009-early2010.
Look carefully at not just the numbers but the graphs at these BLS links to get a visual clue of how Obama's record is one of recovery from one of the the worst jobs recessions in history-- he and the 2009 Congress were handed an economy losing 600,000 to 800,000 jobs a month and in one year had it reversed to gaining jobs, with the AR&R Act of 2009 (Feb09) being an important part of that recovery (and ZERO Republicans in the House voted for it... zero).
(ocultar) Cuando efectúas un movimiento en una partida, puedes elegir cual será tu siguiente acción seleccionado la opción adecuada en la lista desplegable ubicada junto al botón de enviar. (pauloaguia) (mostrar todos los consejos)