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16. Agosto 2010, 05:33:31
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: Here's the answer Tuesday dodged:
paully: That and their voting record.

16. Agosto 2010, 05:30:45
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: So Tuesday
You say that you're "against taking of life under any circumstance."

Like rape and incest?

16. Agosto 2010, 05:27:07
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Here's the answer Tuesday dodged:
Why are democrats personally opposed to abortion but favor a woman's "right to choose."

They are opposed to abortion ONLY in their words. But in their actions, they favor it. They pretend to be against abortion because they know that abortion opponents consider it the taking of an innocent life. So they say they are against the taking of a human life (through abortion) but ok with the fact that abortion takes the life of an unborn human as long as the mother is making that decision.

That isn't logical.

16. Agosto 2010, 05:10:15
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:Tooth Decay
Bernice: I don't know but think it's likely also lack of understanding that contributes to tooth decay. Mother's milk won't promote decay but when the baby gets to solid foods, that's where the problem starts. Heck, we brush our dog's teeth.

16. Agosto 2010, 05:04:22
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: I'm against taking of life under any circumstance. Now answer my question.
Tuesday: Under any circumstances? Like rape or incest?

16. Agosto 2010, 05:03:32
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:Tooth Decay
Tuesday: Black and Hispanic children and those living in families with lower incomes have more decay.

http://www.dentalguideusa.org/dental_statistics/childhood_tooth_decay.htm

16. Agosto 2010, 04:56:21
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: They support pro choice but personally are against abortion.
Tuesday: I'll answer your question after you answer this one. Why are YOU against abortion?

16. Agosto 2010, 04:55:44
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:Tooth Decay
Bernice: True. And Tuesday is wrong, people living in middle class homes practice better dental care than do those in poor homes. It's a statistical fact.

16. Agosto 2010, 04:53:17
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: They support pro choice but personally are against abortion.
Tuesday: YOu are making the claim that they are personally against abortion. I'm asking you why that is and you are dodging the question.

16. Agosto 2010, 04:50:30
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: They support pro choice but personally are against abortion.
Tuesday: Why would they be personally against abortion?

16. Agosto 2010, 04:47:01
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: They support pro choice but personally are against abortion.
Tuesday: Why are they personally against it?

16. Agosto 2010, 04:41:48
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: Us Demos aren't afraid of being Becked if we criticize each other.
Tuesday: How can you be a supporter of a political party that not only supports the butchering of the unborn, but works to make such butchering available to other countries at the US taxpayers expense?

In 1997 Obama opposed bill preventing partial-birth abortion.

16. Agosto 2010, 04:35:44
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: Us Demos aren't afraid of being Becked if we criticize each other.
Tuesday: You didn't say "Obama" you said "each other." Sherrod would be that "other." AND, she was being criticized by fellow Dems AND the WH WAS AFRAID of being Becked.

So you are wrong.

16. Agosto 2010, 04:33:33
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:
Bernice: I wonder if Obama Care covers tooth decay? Among the poorest of children in the US, tooth decay is a huge problem. It's sad. But the problem isn't dental coverage, it's lack of personal care. That happens at home. Dental care is secondary (and important too). But many people simply don't take care of themselves (or their kids) and the rest of us will eventually be asked to pick up the tab.

On the one hand, I want the kids helped. It's not their fault. OTOH, I want people to be told that they have to demonstrate some personal responsibility. Cover kids but adult who are too lazy to take care of their teeth, I dunno. Where does personal responsibility and consequences come into the picture?

16. Agosto 2010, 04:23:33
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: Us Demos aren't afraid of being Becked if we criticize each other.
Tuesday: that must explain why the WH threw Sharrod under the bus BEFORE anything aired on Beck (AND Beck took Sherrod's side).

16. Agosto 2010, 00:11:06
Papa Zoom 

15. Agosto 2010, 23:56:40
Papa Zoom 
It's so true. Most people can't understand Obama's exact position on matters without clarification. and without his teleprompter, he's all "um" and "ahh"

15. Agosto 2010, 23:55:15
Papa Zoom 
A Dim Bulb in the Oval Office?
Herbert E. Meyer
During his eight years in the White House, President George W. Bush was often described by liberals as being about halfway between an idiot and an imbecile. They told us he was so inarticulate -- so unable to express himself clearly -- that his very presence in the Oval Office was an embarrassment for the United States. Members of the White House press corps, spoofing a popular movie, called him the English Patient.

Yet no one, anywhere in the world, ever had trouble understanding what President Bush was saying.

President Obama, on the other hand, is invariably described by these same people as brilliant -- indeed, the most articulate carbon-based life form ever to have walked the Earth.

So how come every time President Obama opens his mouth to state his position on some issue -- as he did this weekend, speaking about his support for that mosque near Ground Zero -- the White House scrambles to issue a "clarification" -- followed less than a day later by an "elaboration" of the clarification?

Come to think of it, President Bush speaks twice as many languages as President Obama. (To be precise, two.) Oh, and in eight years President Bush never said anything even remotely as stupid as President Obama's comment that people in Austria speak Austrian.

Perhaps we should put less effort into forcing the release of President Obama's original long-form birth certificate, and more effort into forcing release of his IQ. Anyone want to take my bet that it'll be lower than George W. Bush's?

15. Agosto 2010, 23:23:28
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: a great quote which most of you will not get
"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."


~~~~~ The late Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931 - 2005

15. Agosto 2010, 22:59:00
Papa Zoom 

15. Agosto 2010, 22:55:55
Papa Zoom 

15. Agosto 2010, 22:52:45
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:My point was you Repubs would go against Obama no matter what he did.
Tuesday: Not true. but being Obama, the WHAT that he does goes against the beliefs of MOST if not ALL conservative thinkers in the US. More people dislike him than like him.

15. Agosto 2010, 22:49:47
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:I did a word serach on this board with the word "constitution" You have loads of posts accusing the Democrats and Obama going against the constitution.
Tuesday: Really? Then you should have NO PROBLEM posting 6 fine examples. Or are you simply lying?

15. Agosto 2010, 07:57:57
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday: Just as I thought. Just words.

I harp on the Democrats because they are destroying this country and Obama is the worst of them. They are dishonest and self-serving. And as I've shown in my posts below, these things are true of them. I gave current examples of corruption and dishonesty You are being lied to and you don't see it. That's because you refuse to consider the possibility.

What I have shown is a CONSISTENT PATTERN of wrong doing by Democrats. These are not isolated cherry picked incidents but business as usual for the Democratic party.

15. Agosto 2010, 07:51:02
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday: Prove it.

15. Agosto 2010, 07:50:39
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: I just don't get why they (new media and politicians) focus only on the mosque contained in the center.
Bernice: IMO, if we are going to be a country that honors diversity, we need to rethink our attitudes toward the Muslims among us. There are two things to consider (maybe more). One: there is a huge element of Islam that wants to control the world through their religion and they will kill everyone to that end. Two: There are others in Islam that want to practice their religion peacefully and honorably just like other mainstream religions. We live in a difficult world. We have to consider both but when it comes to the former, we do so with caution.

15. Agosto 2010, 07:46:07
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday: And how do you know that?

14. Agosto 2010, 21:54:59
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: Do Republicans do bad things
Jim Dandy: Of course some do.  But with democrats, it seems to be a way of political life. 

14. Agosto 2010, 20:05:31
Papa Zoom 
As Democrats continue to try to play the race card, more and more American's are ignoring it.  Victor Hanson observes in his article;

"....we
have devolved to the point where promiscuously crying "Bigot!" and
"Racist!" signals a failure to persuade 51 percent of the people of the
merits of an argument."


This leaves liberals in a pinch.  Liberal policies are deeply unpopular, and liberal proponents aren't winning the political argument based on facts and results.  In decades past even the hint of racism was enough to sway an argument in their direction.  No longer.  This has lead to even more screaming that those that opposed leftist governmental intrusion are racists. 

The
more liberals scream, the more serious thinkers can be excused for
looking at liberal policies and asking "Why are liberals convinced that
minorities won't succeed without their brand of government help?".  A
perfect example of this dichotomy was the school voucher program in
Washington DC that benefited poor and mostly black students, yet
liberals killed it.  With that type or record, the best response to
liberal agitation about matters of race is simple and Shakespearean --
Methinks the liberal protests too much.

14. Agosto 2010, 19:27:27
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Now, back to exposing those socialist, communist, democrats
August 14, 2010
Socialist Party of America reveals 70 Democrats as belonging to their caucus

The Socialist Party of America announced in their October 2009 newsletter that 70 Congressional democrats currently belong to their caucus.
This admission was recently posted on Scribd.com:
American Socialist Voter-
Q: How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA?
A: Seventy
Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?
A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez,
Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].
Q: Who are these members of 111th Congress?
A: See the listing below
Co-Chairs
Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)
Vice Chairs
Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)
Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
That's 70 out of 255 Democrats in the House who are avowed socialists. You also wonder how many are still in the closet.
Again, we see the cowardice of these people. If they really had courage, they would run as both Democrats and socialists and be proud of it.

From the Preamble of the SPA:
We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo.
We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms to achieve equitable distribution of resources,meaningful work, a healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships.


Can anyone honestly say this is the vision you want for the United States? Look around. Show countries where these ideas are producing that "utopia" socialists so naively seek.

14. Agosto 2010, 19:09:21
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday:  It's not a mosque, it's a Muslim community center that contain a mosque.  It's not at Ground Zero, it's blocks away.  If it were just a mosque, I'd say no to it.   And a BIG NO if it were proposed on the actual Ground Zero site.  But a community center?  I'm having a hard time objecting to that.  I just don't get why they (new media and politicians) focus only on the mosque contained in the center.   

14. Agosto 2010, 06:49:52
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: tip of the democratic corruption iceberg

14. Agosto 2010, 06:23:16
Papa Zoom 
Fox mentioned it! No one else covers fairly like Fox.

14. Agosto 2010, 06:22:32
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: bias in the news
Of 351 Reports on Outrageous Bell, Calif. Salaries, Only One Mentions Employees Are Democrat

14. Agosto 2010, 06:21:05
Papa Zoom 
Even the Poor Are Abandoning Obama, According to Gallup Poll Data

google it

14. Agosto 2010, 06:16:17
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: another dumocrat
n the fight to retain his Congressional House seat, North Carolina U.S. Rep. Bob Etheridge (NC-2) emailed and mailed letters and newsletters from his House account last week. Observant voters noted that Etheridge used taxpayers dollars to underwrite the mailings, sending the pieces just ahead of the franking 90-day deadline before the election. Etheridge is the politician who pushed a student journalist when he was queried by the young man on a D.C. street.

btw Rep. Etheridge has more than a million dollars in his campaign account.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v60oNUoHBYM

14. Agosto 2010, 06:11:10
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Such compassion
To close out 2009, the Democrats, who supposedly care so much about ‘the children,’ gave the DC children a special gift–they killed the successful voucher program–effectively banishing them back to horrid DC public schools. As I reported on New Year’s Eve 2009:

The Democrats have officially killed a successful private school voucher program banishing more than 3,300 low-income children back to the DC schools they so desperately wanted to escape. The Heartland Institute reports:

The leaders of D.C.’s school choice movement, Kevin P. Chavous (former D.C. Councilman) and Virginia Walden Ford (executive director of D.C. Parents for School Choice), today issued the following statement:

“House and Senate Appropriators this week ignored the wishes of D.C.’s mayor, D.C.’s public schools chancellor, a majority of D.C.’s city council, and more than 70 percent of D.C. residents and have mandated the slow death of the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program. This successful school voucher program—for D.C.’s poorest families—has allowed more than 3,300 children to attend the best schools they have ever known.

14. Agosto 2010, 06:08:59
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: From one of the poorest communities in Cal...
Robert Rizzo, the city manager, made nearly $800,000 last year, and reports are surfacing that the real total could be double that

He's a democrat.

14. Agosto 2010, 06:01:27
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: It's shameful. We don't have enough money for our own kids because illegals are allowed to suck off the system.
The Fiscal Burden of Educating Children of Illegal Aliens
Of the estimated $113 billion the U.S. spends on illegal immigration annually, roughly $52 billion goes toward educating the children of illegal aliens.

14. Agosto 2010, 05:52:22
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday: Name them and give examples.

13. Agosto 2010, 04:36:42
Papa Zoom 
Jennifer Aniston is an idiot.

12. Agosto 2010, 18:39:13
Papa Zoom 
If that link doesn't work, go to this page and search for hoover

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/index.html

12. Agosto 2010, 18:38:35
Papa Zoom 

12. Agosto 2010, 18:34:46
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: Effect of Obama care
rod03801: I'll find out my increase in about three weeks. I have very little out of pocket for my premiums because my wife has her own insurance. But imagine all those retirees who pay they own way (like my mother). It's close to 1000 a month for insurance. That's likely to put many on the public assistance (tax payers will now foot the bill). So Obama's (your premium rates will not increase) promise is just another in a long string of Obama lies. Premium rates go up and so will your taxes. I figure I'll pay over two thousand in total increase. Great.

12. Agosto 2010, 04:19:47
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: . If Harry ever gets athletes foot he'll have to get it treated by a dentist.
While campaigning in Nevada Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told an audience of mostly Hispanic voters: "I don't know how anyone of Hispanic heritage could be a Republican, okay. Do I need to say more?"

12. Agosto 2010, 03:47:53
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Effect of Obama care
Individual insurance costs will go up. This means those like me, that pay for parts of their health coverage, will now pay more.

PLUS

Middle income earners will have a couple of thousand dollar tax liability.

That's a double whammy.

Obama care was sold that it would REDUCE insurance costs. Not so. They have gone up...way up.

nice

10. Agosto 2010, 03:32:48
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Holder an idiot
Two unpleasant topics of conversation most of us avoid are the epidemic of HIV/AIDS among prison inmates and a variety of sometimes violent events resulting in transmission of the disease. Some states long ago implemented policies to protect the uninfected part of the prison population while providing exceptional medical treatment and counseling to the infected population.

In South Carolina, it has worked so well since 1998 that there has only been a single transmission of HIV/AIDS to a noninfected prisoner. All that may change, however, thanks to a threat from Eric Holder's Justice Department.

South Carolina received a letter from the now-infamous Civil Rights Division that the policy of keeping infected inmates at a designated facility, instead of scattered across the state in the general prison population, may unfairly stigmatize infected prisoners. To the Obama political appointees in the Civil Rights Division, this constitutes discrimination under the Americans With Disabilities Act.

10. Agosto 2010, 03:18:19
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday: whaaaaa - that's all the Dems have. Play the sympathy card. Ok, help with 911 services but forget the teacher's union. Nuts to them.

10. Agosto 2010, 03:08:42
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday: No more emergency aid. What? Are we crazy? We are OUT of money. States spend foolishly and now they need help? NO NO NO! Enough is enough.

9. Agosto 2010, 06:56:43
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday:

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