(V): exactly

The Col: People from all around the world died on 9/11, not just Americans.

Iamon lyme: So you intend to have all the Tampa bay strip joints provide info on which Republicans (and/or their staff) let their hair down and attended lap dancing sessions?

The term hypocrite comes to mind Iamon lyme... and a certain phrase regarding casting stones.

Iamon lyme: Do you know which of the firemen hoisting the flag below your post are Republican or Democrat? People of both parties died on the horrific day ,both victims and responders. I suggest a good start in honouring the many who died might be by putting The politics of 9/11 aside for just one day.

Bwild: "dont inhale??? lol"

It was worse than that. Kids aren't stupid, they knew what the adults knew about Clinton... "If the president can 'bend' the truth and have sex with whoever and whatever, then why is it wrong for me?" They didn't literally say that to me, but you could see it in their faces and in their attitudes.

A lot of high school kids thought it was cool that the president was a skirt chaser. It was HIllarys job to cover for Bill and to say that she didn't believe the allegations. But when the Monica story broke, I guess it was too much for her, so she started in breaking a few things herself. lol

Keystone XL Pipeline Project

[[TransCanada is fully committed to the construction of the 1,897-km (1,179-mile) Keystone XL Pipeline from Hardisty, Alberta to Steele City, Nebraska. We will re-apply for a Presidential Permit and expect a new application to be processed in an expedited manner, making use of the exhaustive record compiled over the past three plus years of regulatory review to allow for an in-service date of 2015. TransCanada anticipates approval of the Presidential Permit application - which is required as the pipeline will cross the Canada/U.S. border - in the first quarter of 2013, after which construction will quickly begin.]]


I'm hoping their optimism is not premature... in other words, hoping for the change needed to get things rolling again.

Iamon lyme: dont inhale??? lol

Artful Dodger: I'll be honoring the true terrorist busters today... and not the ones who opposed the security measures we took after 9/11. I don't care what anyone says about Bush. He did the one thing that needed to be done, and did it over the protests of nearly every Democrat representative and leader. Bush made sure our nation would be more secure.

Iamon lyme: [ Before beginning his first term as president in the 80's... ]

Wo... I was off by a whole decade! I should have remembered when Bill Clinton was in office, because two of my kids were teenagers then. I had a heck of a time convincing them that they shouldn't try following his example... presidents have a lot of influence, especially over kids who often think the president can do no wrong.

Artful Dodger:

> Vote for Obama bumper stickers are proof that you can't fix stupid.

That is because Mitt Romney is really a looooot better than Obama and he is really, really going to change Washington for the better. With Romney in the White House, the lobbying and special interest groups will have no clout, and the era of big money politics is really going to come to an end. Romney really represents how Washington will change for the better and he will really work for the benefit of the working man rather than the benefit of the rich and powerful.

The Col:

> I'm proud of Harper and my govt in this one.Our Liberal party would never have the stones

The question is: what has been accomplished by closing the Iranian embassy? Will Iran stop its nuclear ambitions? Will Iran even be embarrassed by it?

The only reason why this is happened is because Stephen Harper is a blind fool.

Need proof? Why is it that they never broke relations with Pakistan? After all, no other country has sold more nuclear technoilogy in the black market than Pakistan. Pakistan is one of the main supporters of terrorism, and it has been proven that Pakistan's military and intelligence protected Osama bin Laden.

Stephen is playing a stupid political game. Since Americans are in the middle of an election, foreign policy decisions will affect the election. By doling this Stephen Harper wants to put pressure on Obama to follow suit. Since Obama can't really do that as stupidly as Harper did, then Republicans can accuse of Obama of being weak.

Western powers are hypocrites. they want smaller nations to have no nuclear weapons, yet they make no effort to get rid of their own. They point the finger to countires pursuing nuclear weapons, while saying nothing about their own nuclear programs. How many of you know about the recent American research on bunker busting nuclear missiles? And what about the Russian threat to develop yet more sophisticated missiles to counteract the recent American research? While our governments condemn others, they continue to develop more deadly nuclear weapons and they continue to pursue a weapons race. Stephen Harper is the least charismatic prime minister in recent memory. Since his foreign policy decisions carry little weight internationally, he is constantly trying to make some sort of name for himself.

Artful Dodger: And Hillary is no better. Whatever she wasn't involved in, she was aware of. Having her for president would be like having Bill all over again, the only difference being is that she apparently knows how to keep her pants from falling down.

Artful Dodger: It's funny because it's true. He truly is a master of subtlety. He managed to come across as supporting Obama, and at the same time reminded us of how Obama didn't really accomplish much in the past four years.

Before beginning his first term as president in the 80's both friends and enemies alike described Clinton as "machiavellian". And he proved them right with some slick slieght of hand maneuvers, like staying one step ahead of the law by using the presidency to avoid going to court over assault charges, shady business dealings in Arkansas, and who knows what else? Not to mention lying to a grand jury, which would have landed anyone else in jail for willful perjury. Being disbarred was not much of a slap on the wrist when you look at everything and everyone he was involved with. I don't see him as some grand old southern gentleman, and anyone who does either doesn't know anything about him, or doesn't care to know.

hahaha thank you both of you.

Iamon lyme: lol

The real message (hidden) within Bubba's speech at the convention.

Vote for Obama bumper stickers are proof that you can't fix stupid.

Iamon lyme:

MissDelish: Yeah, you missed a rehash of the old hash that came from previous hash reconstituted from hash that came before that... so no, you really didn't miss too much.

It all went kind of like this...

Iamon lyme: If Obama wins the US will go to pot and he'll just keep making excuses. He's a terrible president. A total incompetent. He can make speeches and that's it.

Bwild: Right. It seems a simple principle but so many seem to miss that basic point.

too many posts to read, did I miss anything?

Iamon lyme: you are dead right here LamonLyme:) Those that don't/won't work think it is their god given right to be given free handouts from the government. Most of them have never worked a day in there lives and always have their hands out for freebies.

Artful Dodger: You did a good job of tracing the money back to where it starts, but for some people it doesn't register until you point out that the money those taxpayers had to give up to the government came from them putting in time and effort working at their jobs.

And they are motivated for working at those jobs for the purpose of supporting themselves, which in many cases means they are paying for their own healthcare as well. Democrats are masterful at killing motivation for investment and growth, and then then wonder why businesses are holding on to their money and not investing it. It's not like they want to stall their own growth or hold themselves back. They would be investing it jobs and their own futures if the government would ease off and stop raiding their piggy banks anytime they felt like it.

Even a thief has to work at getting his free money. But we've made it easier (not to mention legal) for some people to get their free money than it is for a thief to get his.

And of course there are those who will remain "unenlightend" no matter what you tell them. They don't know and don't care to know... all that matters to them is that they get their free whatevers and for whatever reason... they don't want to be bothered with knowing anything.

Artful Dodger: businesses either raise rates or flat go broke. more unemployment..higher cost of living.

And for you knuckleheads suggest that "businesses" pay taxes for medical premiums etc, just remember that businesses are in business to MAKE MONEY! They will pass on extra costs to the people. We always pay. Pass regulations that costs businesses money and they raise the costs of their goods. Raise their taxes, they hire less people and raise the costs of their goods. Do the liberal morons not get this basic principle?

Iamon lyme: I had an interesting conversation with a lady who was going on and on about France's medical care being free. She wants the same for here in the US.

I said, "But it's not free. Where did you get that idea?"

Then she went on to describe how they didn't have to pay for doctor's visits or hospital procedures etc.

I asked her if she knew what the tax rate was in France. She didn't.

I asked her if she knew where the money came from to pay the hospital staff and pay overhead etc.

She said it came from the government.

I asked her where the government got the money to pay the hospital etc.

She said through taxes.

I asked where the tax money came from and she said from the people.

Then I suggested that the people were in fact paying for their medical care and they were paying for the medical care of others too. Taxes are indirect payments for medical coverage but it's still a payment. When you "pay" for something, you can't say it's free. In fact, I said, nothing is really free. Somewhere someone is funding the "free" stuff.

ObamaCare isn't free. Many people think it is. They are delusional. The costs will be high and it won't just be $ that factors into the cost. Quality of care will diminish as it has in Canada and throughout Europe.

Actually Mr President, no one does. They appear every day like magic, from nowhere... which means you shouldn't have to pay for them, because they were free to begin with!


whoop whoop whoop whoop, none of it makes any difference, and anything goes... until it's all gone.

Iamon lyme:

The Col: When they kicked out the Shah? ... rebound style!

... I have to be diplomatic regarding what is said of rebounds!!

(V): Didn't they already try?

The Col: ... Hopefully Joe Iranian will get to hear of it. They want their spring!!

(V): I'm proud of Harper and my govt in this one.Our Liberal party would never have the stones

The Col: If only the British and Americans had left them alone in the 50's.

Why would Onaka admit that a birth certificate is indeed on file, yet refuse to verify much of the information that certificate ostensibly contains? According to Klayman, “…the only legal reason for Onaka to not verify those facts is if he can’t legally do so.”

Yes.. it was illegal for him to release those records.. we've been through this. That the President had to ask for them as a favour.

Hawaii's rules yet you birthers don't respect Hawaii's state rules. Shame on you!!

Bwild: [ it does when the religion is perfect harmony. ]

Okay then, how about this... have you considered seeking inner peace and abundant flatulence through perfect hominy?

Artful Dodger: [ Dems Warned Against Certifying Obama Eligible For White House ]

This is why I believe that many Democrats who know this is a problem are secretly hoping for Obama to lose the election. If this is going to be an issue for them, and it looks like it will be, then I believe they would prefer it to be an issue after the election and not before. But if Obama is re-elected, then the problem just becomes worse for them, because of the very real possibility of not being able to continue fooling the general public and keep up the pretense of poo pooing so called "birthers" or "conspiracy nuts". Having the fraud exposed now after covering it up for four solid years is worse (for them) than having it come out later. And worse yet is if Obama is re-elected and it all comes home to roost half way through a second term. After Obama is long gone they can all claim they didn't know, but it would also mean selecting a few of their own to blame for it and have them suffer the consequences. No matter how you cut it, or how it all turns out, there is no scenario that I can see where the Democrats come out of this smelling like a rose. It stinks, but I don't think most Americans know yet just how badly it stinks.

Then you will hear the people who have been mocking "birthers" and calling them conspiracy nuts claim they didn't know, and that there was no way they could have known. I don't feel like waiting until I hear that, so I'll just go on record now to say BULL to that and just get it over with.

Dems Warned Against Certifying Obama Eligible For White House http://www.westernjournalism.com/dems-warned-against-certifying-obama-eligible-for-white-house/ via @WestJournalism

Iamon lyme: " the word "religious" does not cancel out the word "atheist"."

it does when the religion is perfect harmony.

In an ABC News article from 2003, a corrections officer from Los Angeles told reporter Michael S. James that imprisoned pedophiles "usually don't make it" without protective custody. Leslie Walker, a prisoner's rights activist, told James, "[Child sex offenders] are at risk of being murdered, having their food taken, having their cells defecated and urinated in. Their life is truly a living hell." Good, most people will say. But there is a growing number of researchers, many of them out of Canada, whose work suggests that pedophilia is an illness deserving of the public's sympathy the way any brain disorder is.

BTW, that brain disorder is simply fixed by several decapitations.

Bwld and Uber: religious atheists

All I was saying was any higher intelligence other than ours would necessarily have to be in the form of an alien race from outer space, IF there is no God. I happen to believe God is the highest intelligence that exists, but I haven't forgotten what I believed when I was an atheist. So let's be logical about this... if there is no God, no spiritual reality, only a material universe, and assuming we are the highest intelligence found on THIS panet, but not the highest intelligence in the universe, then in what other form could that higher intelligence possibly exist?

And please don't try telling me you believe in the possibility of a higher plane of existence, because that just opens the door to the possibility of there being a God. Mixing and matching conflicting philosophies doesn't make for any kind of convincing argument.

As for religious atheists, sure, I can believe that. You don't have to believe in a God to be religious. But I don't see how being a religious atheist changes the fact that athiests don't believe in a God or gods... the word "religious" does not cancel out the word "atheist".

mckinley: [Anyone who says they don't google to back up anything in depth here is telling a big Ryan. So stop Ryaning. :D]

When you said you were undecided, were you telling a big Ryan? If you voted for Obama 4 years ago and intend to vote for him again, then why be ashamed to say so? Or simply not say so.

I haven't said who I'm voting for, and have no intention to say who I'm voting for, but I think it's just as obvious how I'll be voting as it is how you will be voting.

You told me who were voting for when you first said that you were undecided. Seriously, do you expect me to believe that I knew who you'd be voting for before you did? I think you were telling a "Clinton" when you said you were undecided.

mckinley: Our own lusts. ie yetzer ra, an evil impulse.

mckinley: You're welcome. I've a huge accurate database. And it's better than google.

mckinley: google has its uses.