The Usurper:It's illogical to assume that just because a show like Family Man contains positive messages supporting global warming that somehow this attitude bleeds over to the hard news.

And when you can read minds then, and only then, you will be able to tell me the motives behind Fox Executives.  Otherwise, you simply have an opinion and as I've already stated, opinions don't add up to facts. 

The Usurper:No I don't

The Usurper:Duh Greg.  I don't consider Prison break or The Simpsons a major source of information.  Give me a break.  I couldn't care less about your meaningless suggestion here.  This all coming from someone who gets his 911 information from Rosie ODonnell. 

The Usurper:So what.

Bernice:Oddly enough, it's spelled both ways. 

Global Warming 

The Usurper:"But the Allied powers, in targeting civilians, acted unrighteously nevertheless."

I agree with this opinion. 

The Usurper:"Therefore, while American civilians, if attacked on their own soil by
Iraqi forces, would have essentially brought it upon themselves, it
does not follow that the killing of civilians can ever be a righteous
act in itself."

This is saying two different things.  So I'll respond to them individually, then it's off to bed.

"Therefore, while American civilians, if attacked on their own soil by
Iraqi forces, would have essentially brought it upon themselves, ..."

Nonsense

"it
does not follow that the killing of civilians can ever be a righteous
act in itself."

Of course this can't follow (so we agree) but in this case only because the first statement is nonsense.

Let's follow your logic:  You have to support dropping the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  You have to agree that the people of Dresden, -who where were burned alive, women and children, young and old, - have no reason to complain.  

The Usurper:I don't care about any of that.  It's an opnion that you hold, NOT a fact.  I teach this stuff in school and know what I'm talking about.  You are simply wrong to call it a fact.  It's no more a fact than saying Vanilla ice cream is the best tasting ice cream on earth. 

Furthermore, saying it was unjust is also an opinion NOT a fact.  I don't mind you holding the opinion, but if you call it a fact, that tells me you really don't know what you are talking about.

It's also an OPINION that it was unprovoked.  It's a disputable point and since there is a legal definition and an agent definition, you'd have to be more specific. 

It's also an opinion to say that the war was illegal.  Again, I don't mind you holding to this opinion, but you can't call it a fact.  If you do, you are simply wrong and you DON"T know what you are talking about.  There's a difference between opinion and fact and it's pretty basic. 

The Usurper: "On the contrary, it is simple demonstrable fact."

It's not FACT.  It's an opinion.  You do know the difference right?  If you do, in this case, it doesn't show.

The Usurper:That's nonsense.

Bernice:Hamas hasn't learned that one.

The Usurper:Ron Paul for President. 

Foxy Lady:Plastic will be taxed to the max 

Czuch:I think that says it all.

The Usurper: I've used up my copy and paste privleges for the night anyway.    g'nite my antagonist friend  I'll set you straight someday. 

The Usurper:Good analogy.  Johnson was a horrible President.  He is responsible for the deaths of thousands of young men in the armed services.  He knew we couldn't win, wouldn't win, and he escalated the war anyway.  Then he lied to the troops about our war effort and winning possibilities.  He was only trying to save face.  What an ass.

The Usurper:I keep telling you it's the cows.  And no, O'Reilly doesn't blame the small guy.  He puts the blame where it belongs.  When corporations pollute, he's on them like....can't say that in here but it flies and is attracted to brown stuff. 

The Usurper:I expect stupidity from the democrats and they never disappoint.  But you're right.  The Republicans have dished out plenty of stupidity too.  Case in point is the rush to bail out the banks.  All idiots.  Let the banks fail.  My bank has lots of money cuz they didn't lend to people that had no ability to pay!  My home is paid off!  Not everyone was being stupid.  Bush lost my respect in his final years and the bank bailout was the final straw.  What a bunch of morons.  Billions gone and no one can account for much of it.  The economy is worse, and they are asking for yet more money.  Let them all fail!  Give money to the banks that are succeeding!  They know how to manage money!

The Usurper:
  It's like my hero Bill O'Reilly says.  Even if global warming isn't caused by humans, don't be pinheads.  Keep the earth clean.  Don't pollute.  Be responsible.  You gotta love that kind of thinking.  Why add to the problems of pollution?  Bill says clean it up and do all you can to keep the earth healthy.  Good advice.  But the environmentalists won't have any of that.  They want to punnish big business even if they aren't responsible for any polution.  Robert Kennedy jr is the worst.  He's a radical nut if ever there was one.  He's truly wacked.  I think he smoked too much pot in his college days and is still on a high. 

The Usurper:If we killed all the cows of the world, we could all drive huge SUVs!  And Gore could keep his jets and huge house.  But then he'd be out of a job as propaganda minister for the environmentalists so it's best we breed the cows, eat them, and continue to let them fart us all out of existence.  However there is good news, science will likely harnass cow farts into a usable energy source. 

The Usurper:Let me help you kick it in 

Bernice:  I have a puppet named Bosley Bunny and he's always getting in trouble for the things he says.  He's been banned in the library for a while.  It's funny, but AD is a lot like that little Bosley puppet and for some reason, I feel his presence tonight. 

The Usurper:I've always recognized that someone had to be blamed.  I just start with the obvious one:  democrats, and go from there. 

Are the scientists and economists who ask these questions just a
fringe group, outside the scientific mainstream? Not at all. A 2003
survey of 530 climate scientists in 27 countries, conducted by Dennis
Bray and Hans von Storch at the GKSS Institute of Coastal Research in
Germany, found

• 82 percent said global warming is happening, but only

• 56 percent said it’s mostly the result of human causes, and only

• 35 percent said models can accurately predict future climate conditions.

http://www.heartland.org/NewYork08/newyork08.html

Hardly consensus. 


I tell ya, it's cow farts! 

"there
has been no net global warming since 1998.

"significant
new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis
of dangerous human-caused global warming."

Although some
blame global warming for seemingly
everything, according to others higher temperatures will increase
the amount of land that we can use to grow food, it will improve
people's health, and increase biological diversity.

I love being right about everything. 

I blame the democrats for the war in Iraq.  

The Usurper:
  He had a nasty last name.  Crappy one if you know what I mean. 

The Usurper: They don't know jack.  And Jack says they are full of

Global Warming:  It's a cycle.  Been here before, be here again.  Humans should take care of the earth but cow farts cause more green house gasses than anything man does.  Eat a cow and save the earth. 

The Usurper:AGain, Bush has nothing to do with the question I was addressing.  It had ONLY to do with Clinton.  It's true that there was a Republican majority in Congress.  It's true that they made it very difficult, if not impossible for Clinton to go against their will.  They controlled the congress.  He had to tailor things to suit them or nothing could get done.  And it's also true that Clinton began the banking deregulation.  He convinced the republicans to go along with him, and they did.  They are at fault for this whole mess too.  But as I said, the question I was addressing had only to do with Clinton.  Bush isn't in the picture.

The Usurper: Bush is not the point.  Historical facts are historical facts.  Clinton was kept in check by the Republican congress.  Period.  And Clinton lifted the lid on the banks.  He's the one that opened the pandora's box and it began with him.  Others are responsible too but he began the whole mess. It's history.  It's clearly a fact and can't be disputed.  Bush has nothing to do with the point.  1999.  Bush wasn't president then. 

The Usurper:He balanced the budget because the Republicans controlled congress.  They wouldn't let him spend all that surplus money. 

Obama's economic plan will go the way of Carter. 

The Usurper:It goes back to Clinton.

The Usurper:I don't agree with your Fox analysis.  I've seen Bush's policies smacked around plenty.  O'Reilly routinely criticized his administration for the blunders in Iraq.

The Usurper: WEll, duh. MSNBC is the Obama network.

Tuesday: They laugh because he speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He says no pork and then signs the bills containing billions in pork.

The Usurper: Clearly you know what a strawman is? If so, then you understand that there is no refutation required on my part. If someone refutes and argument I'm not making, all I need to do is point that out. If then, they insist that I am making that argument, I can ignore them. The onus is upon the other to show I have actually said what they say I've said. The smart thing of course, is to ask for clarification, instead of building a straw man and then blowing over.

If I say, "I'm against gun control."

and you say, "Oh. So you're in favor of criminals murdering innocent citizens then."

you get one of these:

Strawman  Your argument didn't address my own, but nice try.  


no refutation is needed as your argument speaks for itself

Pedro Martínez: No, I'm not jesting at all.

Obama is getting a new fleet of new helicopters. Hmmmm, 11.2 Billion dollars. Yeah, like one isn't enough.

But the topper is when he said he "is proud that we passed a recovery plan that is free of earmarks."

Really? He's either lying or he's stupid. Neither choice is good.

There's language in this "recovery package" that requires the Transportation Security Administration to buy 100,000 uniforms from U.S. apparel makers (more that three million of tax dollars). That's an earmark.

Three billion in extra transit money. Another earmark.

Fifty million for habitat restoration in the San Francisco Bay area. Another earmark.

1.2 million for products from these companies: General Electric, L-3 Communications and Reveal Imaging Technologies. (Msnbc.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal, which is a GE company.)

More Earmarks.

There's the 189 million provision for Filipino World War II vets, most of which don't live in the US. Another earmark.

This is supposed to be emergency legislation.


And then there's the 2 billion for battery research? Emergency legislation? Maybe Obama is just redefining earmarks. Kinda like Clinton did with "is."

There 800 million for carbon capture projects.

And yes, it's true. There are 200 thousand dollars for tattoo removal? Seriously.

Pedro Martínez: Some of the stimulus money went for tattoo removal.

The Usurper: That's fine. I have fixed the problem with a new pic and and explanation. Just so there's no more confusion.

The Usurper:Next time I'll use this



so there's less confusion.

The Usurper:Seriously you jest.

Take your pick.  Most of your posts contain a




or two.