For those critical of capitalism and free enterprize

something to consider and understand why it's the best system anywhere.

Charles Martel:   where else will people sit if there are no chairs?

Only on  a politics board can a thread start about 911, morph into a discussion on smoking, and then change once again into comments about abortion, back to smoking,  and end with my dumb comment here. 

Bwild:  Clinton blundered and the US is mistaken to let aliens into our country unabated.  The system allows for aliens to attend our colleges and train in our other institutions.  We believe in "freedom" but officials seem to have forgotten the lesson of the Trojan horse.   Not only do we let the horse in, we built it in the first place.  Time to burn that thing to the ground. 

England has a huge Muslim problem.   America will too if it doesn't wise up.  Some people want to enter our country not for the freedoms we offer, but they mean to do us harm. 

Czuch:  They just find another site that "refutes" the findings.   How many men were involved in Watergate?  Just a few.  And they couldn't keep their mouths shut as they ratted each other out.  So now we are to believe that a major conspiracy involving perhaps hundreds of participants has succeeded in doing the impossible.  When something happens in my classroom and I want to know who did it, I know that everyone will rat out the offender.  And once the offender is ratted out, he will tell all he knows about others.  He's not going down alone.  That scenerio is far more believable than a host of offenders keeping themselves collectively quiet about their crimes. 

Vikings:

Bwild: fixed

Jim Dandy:  It's not garbage to criticize it.  Obama and his crew are trying to ram this bill down out throats when clearly it's a huge mess.  It's not just Republicans that are calling attention to the problem, economists are too.  Why spend all that money without careful analysis of the ramifications of each measure?   

Jim Dandy:Not judging his "record" but judging his most recent actions and decisions.  Not a good start.  He's shown great skill at campaigning, not so much as a leader, so far.

His recent comments aimed at Republicans who had criticized the "stimulus" package as nothing more than a "spending" package displayed a side of Obama people haven't seen much of.  He showed a lack of leadership and demonstrated he is not above using mockery and sarcasm to blast his opponents.  Yeah, that will win them over.

The problem is, thinking people understand that what the Republicans were pointing out by calling it a "spending" package, is that the so-called "stimulus" package will not do the very thing it is supposed to do.  As Bwild has pointed out, it's a pig with lipstick.  All the "spending" attached to the stimulus bill is just a repeat of old failed economic policies the democrats are famous for.  Pet projects and paybacks to political supporters are NOT going to create the kind of jobs that benefit the man on the street. Most Americans view Obama's plan with doubt and most also agree that the democrats crafted it with unnecessary "spending."  The republicans are just trying to draw attention to the fact that spending money for the sake of spending isn't the answer the American people are hoping for.  Anyone can "spend" but it takes real leadership to spend it in the right way.  Obama has failed in a big way here.  This stupid idea (crafted by the dems) will not only fail, but it will put the US economy in a worse state.  But hey, Obama can always blame Bush once again.

Bernice:It is very scary times.  The far left democrats are very dangerous people.  They will change America if they can and destroy the Constitution.  And the people will be like lemmings and follow follow follow.  Obama's popularity will take a nose dive before his term is into it's 2nd year. 

America, What Have You Done?

Obama promised to do away with pork and yet one of his first accomplishments seems to be filled with the stuff!

Bernice: 

Bernice:Order now:  $1,295.00

um, I'll wear a hat. 

Czuch:  Yep, she's using those kids to get rich.  She probably knew that she'd make a ton of money doing this.  But she put 8 lives at risk.  It could have been a far different outcome.  They could all be dead or retarded or handicapped in another way.  She already had 6 kids.  What did she need with 8 more?  She's irresponsible to the max.

Artful Dodger:  Maybe I can be a Chia pet. 

Bernice:All this science that can clone, create life in a petri dish, and they can't figure out how to grow me hair. 

Bernice:

I did  read somewhere that scientists have found a way to fertilize an egg using a woman's DNA (something like that) but it's not a perfected process.  They are able to make a "sperm" with another woman's DNA. 

Ok, fine.  So two lesbians could theoretically have kids this way.  Then it would be true that a woman doesn't need a man (except it's men who discovered this process).

And we've already had a pregnant man (sort of) so I guess men don't need women either. 

It's a scary world out there!  Science is changing everything.  And the potential for abuse is staggering.

Bernice:  Yeah but she did need a man.  Even the dr who implanted the embryos was a man.      Maybe her problem is that she couldn't get a man! 

Bwild: Or Pelosi's Payoff. 

Bwild:  And Nancy Pelosi stands before the press and says that Americans are losing 500 million jobs a month.  Um, there aren't that many people living in the US. Let's see, there are 305,758,372.  Kinda like democrats that vote.  More vote than are registered.  More are registered than the entire population of any given State.  So at least her math is consistent!

Bernice: You're bad.  

Charles Martel:Yeah but those are essentials. 

Czuch: I spend my money when I want to.  I just bought my wife a new computer (lap top) and we just purchased round trip flights to Arizona.  Car rental too.  So that will put some bucks back into the economy.  So I've more than spent that money but on my terms and not on the governments.  I never buy something just cuz I have the money (the government could learn from that).  You should see the truck I drive.  I could buy a new one outright but why?  Better off in the bank.  I say good for me and bernice!  ;)

anastasia:  that pretty much sums up this stimulus package.  It's our money and congress is wasting it.  Most news (if not all) agencies agree.  It needs serious trimming.

Jim Dandy:  Almost.  It needed beans and a fire pit. 

• $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal
power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last
year because it said the project was inefficient.
• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.
• $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.
• $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).
• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.
• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.
• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
• $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
• $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.
• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
• $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
• $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.
• $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
• $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.
• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
• $500 million for state and local fire stations.
• $650 million for wildland fire management on forest service lands.
• $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.
• $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.
• $412 million for CDC buildings and property.
• $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.
• $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.
• $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.
• $850 million for Amtrak.
• $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.
•
$75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State
Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing
facilities of other agencies.
• $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.
• $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.

Jim Dandy:  It was like a modern day Monte Python mixed with a little Marx brothers and Chaplin thrown in. 

Bernice:That is so crazy.  Whey did they do that?  The US did something similar.  We got 1200 dollars from the knucklehead government.  They wanted to stimulate the economy.  I put it in the bank for a rainy day.

Foxy Lady:It will be in my tummy if I find it!

Bernice:   I grew some hair  lol

Jim Dandy:Bernice alert!!!   Mind your P's and Q's.

Jim Dandy:yeah but it's on the net.  Do you have dialup or cable?

Listening to COAST TO COAST AM WITH GEORGE NOORY
at the moment. 

Jim Dandy:  hmmmm, I missed that one.  Who made that comment?  Coulter?

Jim Dandy:I doubt that.  But she did sound like she had written her response.

I can tell you from experience that what that caller said is so very true.  I've seen dozens of examples of that sort of thing.  Kid has a kid, is irresponsible, and grandparents raise the child.  Meanwhile, the "mother" gets all kinds of government assistance.  My brother is one of those grandparents.  He's been raising two of his grandkids (and he's a step dad).  Coulter is spot on with regard to single parents (statistically speaking).  There's always exceptions but exceptions don't make the rule.  Society would do well to pay attention to the research she cites. 

Jim Dandy:  I listened to the entire interview.  She's great and her thesis is right on.  And she was very civil too.  The caller had a great line about a boil.....

Mousetrap:  depending on who I play, so am I 

Jim Dandy:  She's one smart lady and her book Guilty is right on.  ;)

Vikings:  

Mousetrap:  Politics is like a chess game.  When you have the upper hand, it's fun to watch your opponent squirm.  

Czuch:  Yeah, it was OK when the shoe was on the other foot.  but now that we've changed shoes......

Jim Dandy:   This will haunt him.  Very poor judgment on his part and he's much smarter than that.

anastasia:  You should be outraged.  They are stealing the American people blind.

DEMOCRATS BY THE NUMBER New Townhall.com blogger Dwayne Horner
recently compiled a stunning list of the tax transgressions by those
writing, creating and implementing the nation's tax policy. And so much more here.

$34,000: the amount of federal taxes that Secretary
of the Treasury Timothy Geithner (D) failed to pay during his
employment at the International Monetary Fund despite receiving extra
compensation and explanatory brochures that described his tax
liabilities.



$75,000: the amount of money that the head of the powerful
tax-writing committee, Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY), was forced to report
on his taxes after the discovery that he had not reported income from a
Costa Rican rental property. His excuses for the failure started with
blaming his wife, then his accountant and finally the fact that he
didn't speak Spanish.



$140,000: the amount of back taxes and interest that Cabinet nominee Tom Daschle (D)
was forced to cough up after the vetting process revealed significant, unexplained tax liabilities.



$800,000: the amount of "sweetheart" mortgages Senate Banking
Chairman Chris Dodd (D-CT) received from Countrywide Financial, the
details for which he has refused to release details despite months of
promises to do so.

Bernice:I typed in "I love you" and she replied:  "Buzz off creep!"