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1. Agosto 2004, 18:29:19
Purple 
All that is missing now is for Duffus to post your love letters. LOL

1. Agosto 2004, 18:26:48
ScarletRose 
Asunto: Re: how titillating
haha.. Gothic.. you are bad!!

1. Agosto 2004, 18:24:43
danoschek 
Asunto: suck suck suck
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 18:25:46)
go figure why some people really do not love to live in a big public soap opera - LOL
despite of the topicless spamming here - still I'm not interested in hectic games with
running rabbits, any deputy/mercenary fights or, folks hiding behind skirts, either ... ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 18:21:59
Stevie 
LMAO@Trice for a change ;o)

1. Agosto 2004, 18:18:20
ughaibu 
Asunto: Scarlet Rose
Thanks for that post, frightening stuff. Shall I tell you about my recruitment drive for slaves(internet, of course)?

1. Agosto 2004, 18:18:06
redsales 
Asunto: GI
how much (US) does a goth set retail for? Are they sold on amazon and the like? Have you ever considered a convertible board that could change from 8x8 to 10x8 or do you feel that would detract from your primary focus of distancing goth from chess?

1. Agosto 2004, 18:16:19
redsales 
Asunto: scarlet
I'm sorry to hear that, but I thank you for your candor. Korea has been full of epiphanies regarding my previous standard of male-female normalcy. My grandfather is German, so I got a taste of that from him, but it's a whole new ballgame in Asia. I could never understand the whole mail order bride thing until I actually saw first hand why some wanted to leave.

1. Agosto 2004, 18:12:38
redsales 
Asunto: ugh
thanks, the last thing i remember was a fallopian tube and a bris. I still can't divine what happened, but maybe some things are left unsaid.

1. Agosto 2004, 18:11:31
ScarletRose 
Asunto: Re: how titillating
Redsales.. to answer your question.. Yes.. dano and I met in Oct of 2000.. I was just getting my divorce papers and was a bit bitter on the male population.. we met at IYT.. and through our chats I realized that men weren't all abusive and not trustworthy.. Dano came to Wyoming from Germany on May 22nd and had to return on June 7th.. to wrap some personal stuff up.. He was hoping to come back permanently. He mentioned it several times waiting for me to give him the go ahead.. but, I held off due to enjoying my freedom too much.. I wasn't really ready back then to make such a big committment.. That is also when I started to realize that different countries come with different cultures and upbringing.. what is possessive and obcessive over here in the states isn't viewed as such else where.. and vise versa.. some things American men are noted for are not necessarily happening in other parts of the world..

I ended up completely breaking up the relationship after I had started into college fulltime.. I didn't have the time to be online permanently as he had expected for me.. that was around Sept of 2002..

1. Agosto 2004, 18:01:26
ughaibu 
Asunto: Redsales
Welcome to the world.

1. Agosto 2004, 18:01:26
redsales 
Asunto: grandpatzer
Well, personally, I wouldn't play you for stakes. I've played over some of your games and I think your moves are a tad too abstruse for me to have any shot of winning any dough. I know I have a theoretical shot at beating you, so if you ever want a "fun" game, I'm up for that. I know it probably irks you, the lack of competition on this site.

1. Agosto 2004, 17:57:57
redsales 
Asunto: how titillating
did you two go out in "real life", scarlet? actually crossed the atlantic to Germany? Or do I have it all wrong?

1. Agosto 2004, 17:53:50
ScarletRose 
Asunto: And your constant reminder of me
having once thought of you lovingly is disgusting to me.. I have been in relationships since you.. please drop the ex gurlfriend thing.. that was many moons ago.. Thank Gawd!!

Besides, I offer the poetry once meant for you for understanding to others..

1. Agosto 2004, 17:49:30
danoschek 
Asunto: ex gurlfriends desperately sucking - try to avoid dudes - heaven beware
metamorphosis from the careless bully to the wet tissue, yes females do that too.
coming up with diffaming my social skills, gets sensible of sudden then awww !!
The eternal soap opera of your backyards psychology doesn't belong here period. ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:48:16
ScarletRose 
Asunto: Yes.. I see he is skirting around the real issues..
yet continues to ... (How do you say it Dano..??) Babble?? on as a victim..

I appreciate your honesty there Gothic.. such a shame that Dano can't seem to move past his prior hurts..

1. Agosto 2004, 17:48:11
redsales 
Asunto: new games
no new games at all, GI? I'd love to play you in the QPC tournament...it shouldn't take more than a fortnight to finish.

1. Agosto 2004, 17:46:56
ughaibu 
Asunto: GothicInventor
Your linguistic shortcomings dont reduce your interlocutor's endeavours to accomodate that ignorance.

1. Agosto 2004, 17:45:50
Stevie 
Asunto: Tricey
have you not heard of the sayings to do with puberty rights then?

I aint taking the fun of you, just a genuine question

1. Agosto 2004, 17:44:54
ScarletRose 
Asunto: Re: what you think is childish is irrelevant and I won't return the humbug, although EASY, girlie
I will ignore the fact that you TRY to insult me dano..

Calling me a child is more of a compliment actually.. But, the EASY part.. What exactly do you mean??

Oh.. and speak plain english if you are going to use my language.. otherwise don't insult my native tongue with your so called creativity..

1. Agosto 2004, 17:42:49
ughaibu 
Asunto: Caissus
"I don`t want read unimportant things permanently", brilliant. Thanks for validating Danospeak.

1. Agosto 2004, 17:41:23
danoschek 
Asunto: I think it's clear WHO needs reminders
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 17:42:30)
although it won't stop the blatant bluntness of obsessive spammers. ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:40:06
danoschek 
Asunto: I guess everybody with a tiny bit of clue recognizes C64-graphics
31. July 2004, 20:09:26

your diffuse puberty rituals of fixative proving whatever are as low as your
board-habits - why not answer to the topic questions here ? btw calling a cheater
a cheater is a definition, it's no insult either, so you better don't demand reports.
Although you have not apologized for your poor performance silly me presumed a courtesy
of leaving it behind. Of course we know why indeed you sulk about going away - it's easy chicken out from true competition. I for my part won't feel pelled to having hectic games with running rabbits - no game until licence is renewed. Due to my precious reward as serious
player I prefer to brag only with complete games - if feeling urged to such, anyway ... ~*~ 0:)

1. Agosto 2004, 17:38:05
danoschek 
Asunto: what you think is childish is irrelevant and I won't return the humbug, although EASY, girlie
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 17:38:46)
Ask Fencer about an open letter from me to GI last year
- and why not go to chitchat until his answer arrives ... ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:37:41
redsales 
that paper looks great..i only glanced through the first 3 pages, but that's the kind of stuff that belongs here. I have no idea what you guys are talking about, but keep it up!

1. Agosto 2004, 17:35:50
ScarletRose 
Asunto: Dano.. I ask you again.. since I have yet to see your reply
Okay both of you stop for one second... 1. August 2004, 09:29:44
Now.. if you both are going to behave like children we can treat you as such..

What do each of you want from the other to where this anger between you is settled?

1. Agosto 2004, 17:34:15
danoschek 
Asunto: Purple
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 17:36:06)
what he says is he chickens out - as I explained in my own flowerful language before ~*~
PS: but glad to see the old gothicinventor-KM connection being revived ... LMAO ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:33:29
danoschek 
Asunto: oh
should not Liquid explain that or, Fencer, you poor innocent victim ?? ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:31:04
danoschek 
Asunto: and careful with downloads
especially from people who claim that they are taken over by hackers, periodicly ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:30:50
Purple 
Asunto: Re:
It seems like going down Memory Lane to dredge up "bad guys" or paint yourself as a hero is a sign of weakness, not strength. I think it was a miscarriage that Ed lost his Moderator position because of a home invasion by Shorty/Creepo but that is just my opinion.

1. Agosto 2004, 17:29:44
ScarletRose 
Asunto: Okay both of you stop for one second...
Now.. if you both are going to behave like children we can treat you as such..

What do each of you want from the other to where this anger between you is settled?

1. Agosto 2004, 17:29:15
danoschek 
Asunto: Simple and clear
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 17:29:44)
I'm not interested in deputy wars, just because the swellhead who indeed is the only
one here permanetly claiming to be godfather of game tries to chicken out again ...
Mercenary fights neither - especially as we learned the payment is regulary volatile ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:24:06
danoschek 
Asunto: Cheaters look fuzzy - like liars too
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 17:25:06)
"keeps claiming" let's spot - his lips are moving therefore he lies
(according to the common rule we discovered) maybe I should sulk now
until he nicely like a good puppy brought TWO (at least) claims of mine. LOL !! ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:22:11
Walter Montego 
Asunto: Re: A bet
Now we're talking. I dislike using this service to play the games though. Since there's no stopping anyone from using a Chess playing, er Gothic Chess playing machine, the game should be played face to face as a regular Chess match would be held. To hold the match on this site would only prove who has the better machine or program or advisor.
Just how well spread is Gothic Chess? Have there ever been any tournaments held as like a regular Chess tournament? I can't say that I ever seen a Gothic Chess in a store, but then there's lots of games that aren't sold in stores. Chess is in every store, even stores that don't sell games.

1. Agosto 2004, 17:18:34
Stevie 
If I was better player, I would to shut you up, but me not :o(

1. Agosto 2004, 17:16:15
danoschek 
Asunto: How was his bet for taking over brainking and removing all competitors ?
well we see the result ...
and we actually could be happy that he lost, and brainking won. ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:13:36
Stevie 
the Bwildman gothic chess game/no posts bet

1. Agosto 2004, 17:13:20
danoschek 
Asunto: yep too funny
I mean what keeps that cadaver alive that he still yanks
although he was busted for similar frauds webwide ... ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:11:49
Stevie 
we know what happened last time you were trying to do a bet, you wangled out of it ;o)

1. Agosto 2004, 17:10:46
Purple 
Asunto: Re: Vegas Odds
The Purple World Bookmaking Dept. will cover both sides of that action. LOL

1. Agosto 2004, 17:06:48
danoschek 
Asunto: diffuse puberty rituals
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 17:11:15)
of fixative proving whatever. grow up guys. and eddieboy - after once I took
your prizetourney-scams serious, you better should take a reality pill before you
try to start your blur again, you're looking funny chicken out, the weight I assume ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:04:05
danoschek 
Asunto: you guess
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 17:05:18)
and the results therof have blown it for you on regular basis. this is the
gothic board, no cry-station for notorious ex-gurlfriends and their ludicrous
and not welcome backyards-psychology, barely on soap opera level period ... ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 17:00:26
ScarletRose 
Asunto: OH???
I didn't realize you had studied psychology??

I do know Dano.. that when you don't like something or someone you are more than determined to co hearse everyone else into thinking as you do..

Of course you are a typical male when it comes to appologizing.. or trying to forgive, forget and move on..

I guess that is what really blew it for ya!!

1. Agosto 2004, 16:29:47
danoschek 
Asunto: you better
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 16:38:05)
another neglectable and diffaming view especially about social skills, gothic !
you get minor meaning from desperate usage of 'really' btw ... I don't need any
lessons in sincere socialization, that's rather my profession must I say more ? ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 16:25:43
ScarletRose 
Asunto: I agree with ya Walter..
by editing the post.. or removing them.. even discipling the ids that have some words of anger will only anger them more..

I see two men who enjoy chess so much they think they are at the top.. Kind of a Benny Rooster thing.. actually it is humorous as you say to see them bicker so.. they don't realize that they are both highly intelligent men who really lack in social skills.. It is too bad.. they could be really good friends.. learning from each other.. instead of sparring all the time as they do..

*covers head with arms and walks out of the room*

1. Agosto 2004, 15:54:58
danoschek 
Asunto: I want stress two details yet
there's a pending question from 7/17 to GI about the game, he was not interested.
My short and harsh opinion about Intel/MS, two companies that I despice deeply
for usury and scamp may be elaborated further on the computer board, upon request. ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 15:41:18
danoschek 
Asunto: well for Uwe it's easy
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 16:05:36)
he simply won't read as he prefered and suggested, especially after missing the
opened topic 'puter championship' that I refered to while putting my opinion about
(not so amused) unlike Uwe btw who did not say anything about the game while he indeed shows regular attempts of domineering a debate with his (my view) rather neglectable weighting of importance, i.e. what game should not be here, instead of simply leaving everybody his own choice as I would, no bending of my own preferences necessary, easy. ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 15:19:06
Caissus 
It is sadly that nobody has to say something relevant about the game itsself.I don`t want read unimportant things permanently.

1. Agosto 2004, 14:41:27
ughaibu 
Asunto: Walter
How about offering a critique on the quality of the respective insults?

1. Agosto 2004, 14:39:52
redsales 
Asunto: let em talk
i have no idea what the real problem is between Dano and GI, but from what I gather, they have some history. Like Walter said, it can be entertaining at times. As an aside, I'm still interested in seeing Nellaf and GI play to settle top spot once and for all. Congratulations to ChessCarpenter for getting the first draw from GI on BK, btw.


Anyway, back on topic, my computer meets those minimum requirements. What days does it need operating?

1. Agosto 2004, 13:23:43
Walter Montego 
Asunto: RE:Moderator's first true test...
They're both knuckleheads!
Let 'em blow steam with this blather. I'm trying to understand each side, but I'm not having much luck. Are they fighting amongst themselves in a public forum. or are these posts real arguments to get me to agree with either one of them?
Hmm.. yes, obviously fighting. As for swaying me with eloquence and the power of logic and rhetoric, they're both doing real bad in that respect.
In fact that's what's missing, respect! You guys (GothicInventor and danoschek) are just wasting eveyone else's time with these type of posts. I really don't care, but it appears that some readers here do. It has humor to me to watch this kind of fighting. I also like the Three Stooges type of humor, so I'm not sure if getting me to laugh at one's posts is a good thing or not.
Come on Thad, they got you to post in response. This is a fairly quiet board without them posting to it. Since I was installed as moderator this board has had a dearth of posts until yesterday. I suppose we'd all like a higher quality of posts, but we get what we pay for.
Which is better? No posts at all, or these recent posts? I can delete them all, or edit them, or do nothing. What'll it be? Neither one of them are swearing, and some of the things in their posts actually are informative. I see no reason to do anything about them. In the future, when I scroll back to this page, it'll be interesting to see just what will have happened here. If the personal attacks take a nasty tone or if the posts get so far off the subject of this particular board that something has to be done or we'll be in danger of losing members, then I might be moved to act. Pushing the envelope will probably be what's going to happen next since this will be perceived as a weak action, but I will hope that it doesn't go that route. I'm not much for censorship. I will do what I can to not edit anything of other people's posts.

A saying that seems appropriate.

It is better to remain silent and to be thought a fool...
...than to speak and remove all doubt.

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