YOu liberals did the same to Bachmann that you complained about regarding Breitbart and the Sherrod story. Context is everything. How soon you forget.

Open Thread: Britain Decentralizing National Health Care
by NB Staff
For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Britain decentralizing its National Health Care.

Practical details of the plan are still sketchy. But its aim is clear: to shift control of England's $160 billion annual health budget from a centralized bureaucracy to doctors at the local level. Under the plan, $100 billion to $125 billion a year would be meted out to general practitioners, who would use the money to buy services from hospitals and other health care providers. The plan would also shrink the bureaucratic apparatus, in keeping with the government's goal to effect $30 billion in "efficiency savings" in the health budget by 2014 and to reduce administrative costs by 45 percent. Tens of thousands of jobs would be lost because layers of bureaucracy would be abolished.

Isn't it embarrassing that as European nations realize their socialist programs are bankrupting them we have a President and an entire political Party trying to emulate here what is failing there?

It's very worrisome to people: If the Obama Administration is this afraid of Glenn Beck, how do they deal with the Iranians?

For you knuckleheads that missed it:

The video had never played on the Fox News Channel before the White House fired her. It was on Andrew Breitbart BigGovernment.com but it wasn't on Fox News.

CHRIS WALLACE, HOST: Let me bring in Governor Dean, because the fact is...

HOWARD DEAN: Yeah, Chris, let's just...

WALLACE: Go ahead, sir.

DEAN: Let's just be blunt about this. I don't think Newt Gingrich is a racist and you're certainly not a racist, but I think Fox News did something that was absolutely racist. They took a, they had an obligation to find out what was really within the clip. They have been pushing a theme of black racism with this phony Black Panther crap and this, this business, and Sotomayor and all this other stuff. You, I think you got to be very, I think the, look, the Tea Party called out their racist fringe, and I think the Republican Party's got to stop appealing to its racist fringe. And Fox News is what did that. You put that on...

WALLACE: Wait, wait, wait wait...

DEAN: Yes, I think the Obama people...

WALLACE: Governor?

DEAN: Yes.

WALLACE: I know facts are inconvenient...

DEAN: Yeah.

WALLACE: I know facts are inconvenient things, but let's try to deal with the facts. The fact is that the Obama administration fired or forced Shirley Sherrod to quit before her name had ever been mentioned on Fox News Channel. Did you know that, sir?

DEAN: What I do know is that video came out --

WALLACE: Did you know that, that her name. Did you know that she was fired before her name was ever mentioned on the Fox News Channel?

DEAN: What about the video? Where did that play. What about the incomplete video?

WALLACE: The video had never played on the Fox News Channel before the White House fired her. It was on Andrew Breitbart BigGovernment.com. We're not responsible for them. I agree with you it was out of context, but it wasn't on Fox News so maybe you shouldn't be using the racist phrase either.

Former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean on Sunday accused the Fox News Channel of being racist.

Dean continued, "They have been pushing a theme of black racism with this phony Black Panther crap and this, this business, and Sotomayor and all this other stuff...The Tea Party called out their racist fringe, and I think the Republican Party's got to stop appealing to its racist fringe."


Yeah, Dean must mean this about the "Black Panther crap." Here's a quote from the Black Panther member that intimidated blacks and white outside a polling place. Yeah, it's on tape.

I’m a warrior trained by Khalid Muhammad
I’m a terrorist trained by Usama bin Laden
Demolitionist, breaking down the walls of the rotten
Never hit and miss
So, first time, take out your target

You want freedom?
You’re gonna have to kill some krackers
You’re gonna have to kill some of their babies!

Did you see this covered in the main stream press?

SHIRLEY SHERROD, ON ANDERSON COOPER 360 ON THURSDAY: I know I've gotten past black versus white. He's probably the person who’s never gotten past it and never attempted to get past it. I think he would like to get us stuck back in the times of slavery. That's where I think he’d like to see all black people end up again.

Um Shirley, how is that "getting past black versus white." ?

Trapper of Cnn: "This woman's been offered a job by the Agriculture Department as a Deputy Director of the Office of Advocacy and Outreach, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. And she's saying Andrew Breitbart wants to return to the days of slavery? Now, you can think what Andrew Breitbart did was reprehensible, irresponsible, unfair and a total smear. Does that justify saying he wants us to go back to the days of slavery?"

“I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax.”

Ferris Bueller: I've already explained the use of "armed" to the both of you. Now you are both just being dishonest.

Artful Dodger:   Are you actually literally saying that there is a need for armed warfare against liberals?  That position is way overstating things isn't it?  Particularly if, as you say, conservatives will win in a landslide this November.

Abuse of the Social Security Trust Fund Began in the 1980s
by Allen W. Smith / November 28th, 2009

The mishandling of Social Security funds has been going on since the mid-1980s. As soon as the surpluses, resulting from the 1983 payroll tax hike, first began to flow into the Treasury, politicians from both political parties began using the money like a giant slush fund. At that time, it would be at least 30 years before the funds would actually be needed for Social Security, so politicians developed the bad habit of “temporarily borrowing” the money and using it for non-Social Security purposes. That bad habit never was broken, and every dollar of the $2.5 trillion in surplus Social Security revenue, generated by the tax hike, has been spent, leaving no real assets in the trust fund.

Tuesday: I will try to find out.

The axis of evil??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXGbHsuELZY

What say to this quote:

I’m a warrior trained by Khalid Muhammad
I’m a terrorist trained by Usama bin Laden
Demolitionist, breaking down the walls of the rotten
Never hit and miss
So, first time, take out your target

You want freedom?
You’re gonna have to kill some (n word)!
You’re gonna have to kill some of their babies!

Did you see this covered in the main stream press?

excerpt is from the 1998 Senate Budget Committee session.

What we've been doing, Mr. Chairman, in all reality, is taken a hundred billion out of the Social Security Trust Fund, transferring it over to the spending column, and spending it. Our friends to the left here are getting their tax cuts, we getting our spending increases, and hollering surplus, surplus, and balanced budget, and balanced budget plans when we continue to spend a hundred billion more than we take in.

...

We owe Social Security 736 billion right this minute. If we saved 117 billion, we could pay that debt down, and have the wonderful effect on the capital markets and savings rate. Isn't that correct? Thank you very much, Sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

...

BOTH sides of the isle have pilfered SS fund.

Tuesday: and that truth would be?

Tuesday: No I don't. I'm pointing out that Reid is a liar. and don't be naive. Democrats dipped into the fund as well. they are the authors of most entitlement packages (which are nothing less than attempts to buy votes).

Artful Dodger: No.. it doesn't say why she's not been interviewed (official line) just she is not and then the RIGHT WING blog just speculates..

What say to this quote:

I’m a warrior trained by Khalid Muhammad
I’m a terrorist trained by Usama bin Laden
Demolitionist, breaking down the walls of the rotten
Never hit and miss
So, first time, take out your target

You want freedom?
You’re gonna have to kill some (n word)!
You’re gonna have to kill some of their babies!

Did you see this covered in the main stream press?

Tuesday:

Artful Dodger: Ah yes.. we've a small problem with the last government having over spent.. ya know like Bush did.. leaving the USA in trillions of dollars in debt.

So every public budget is being cut. These secret plans are probably just people talking about how we as a country can save billions of pounds this year. It's not like the American healthcare companies who refuse treatment for a profit. That is trully callous. How on earth did they get away with turning down 9/11 emergency service hero's is beyond me.

Cuba just said "yes"

Here's a sign from a left winger when Bush was prez

http://biggovernment.com/files/2010/07/Bush-Hitler-300x255.jpg

Tuesday: Harry Reid made that statement. I'd say he's a liar. He knows it's not true. Yet he lies to the American people.

Tuesday: I asked if you believed that statement to be true.

July 25, 2010
Obama Admin Approved Lockerbie Bomber Release
Clarice Feldman
Some folks in Scotland are angry enough to leak to the Guardian what many of us already suspected. The Lockerbie bomber was released only with our approval--grudgingly given perhaps--but given nevertheless.

Barack Obama is under growing pressure to release a letter that reveals the US grudgingly supported freeing the Lockerbie bomber on compassionate grounds.

The letter was sent to Scottish ministers by a senior diplomat at the US embassy in London last August, eight days before Abdelbaset al-Megrahi was released from prison because he was dying from inoperable prostate cancer.

Obama's administration has refused to allow publication of the letter, in which the US says allowing Megrahi to live at home in Scotland would be "far preferable" to sending him back to Libya under the prisoner transfer deal brokered by former prime minister Tony Blair in 2007.

"Social Security is the most successful social program in the history of the world,"

do you believe this statement to be true?

Tuesday: according to you. Obama is fair game for any and all types of criticism. He's a slick willie. He's a liar. He lied in the campaign and he's still lying now. Why do you think he's losing so much of his base support. More and more democrats are admitting to buyer's remorse. they are sorry for having voted for the man. they feel let down.

And those democrats running for office are distancing themselves from Obama because he carries the stigma of death for any candidate. You can't see all this?

Britan's NHS to make massive cuts and ration basic services
Rick Moran
Britain's national health care system is broken.

Duh.

What is truly pitiful, however, is the idea that the bureaucrats think that by tweaking things here and there that they can fix it. This piece in the Telegraph shows why that's akin to The Impossible Dream:

Some of the most common operations - including hip replacements and cataract surgery - will be rationed as part of attempts to save billions of pounds, despite government promises that front-line services would be protected.
Patients' groups have described the measures as "astonishingly brutal".
An investigation by The Sunday Telegraph has uncovered widespread cuts planned across the NHS, many of which have already been agreed by senior health service officials. They include:
* Restrictions on some of the most basic and common operations, including hip and knee replacements, cataract surgery and orthodontic procedures.
* Plans to cut hundreds of thousands of pounds from budgets for the terminally ill, with dying cancer patients to be told to manage their own symptoms if their condition worsens at evenings or weekends.
* The closure of nursing homes for the elderly.
* A reduction in acute hospital beds, including those for the mentally ill, with targets to discourage GPs from sending patients to hospitals and reduce the number of people using accident and emergency departments.
* Tighter rationing of NHS funding for IVF treatment, and for surgery for obesity.
Other changes include thousands of job losses and cost cutting for pediatric and maternity programs as well as care for the elderly.
How about that American cancer patients; do you want a system that tells you to go to hell if you happen to be in unbearable pain on a weekend? And you better not have an accident - you might simply be turned away for lack of beds - and a lack of concern.
We are told by national health care advocates - including our brand new Medicare chief Donald Berwick - that rationing is the wave of the future and there''s nothing that can be done except have government determine who gets what as far as health care is concerned.
The pitilessness of the British model turns my stomach. And the hell of it is, Americans will not wake up to what Obamacare really means until they are personally affected by the changes. By then it will be far too late to step back from the brink and we'll end up like Great Britain; tinkering with a failed system that will only make things worse for everyone.

Tuesday: It doesn't matter that times have changed. You don't eliminate liberties and use that as an excuse.

Tuesday: You mean the way you and others here did when Bush was president?

well-armed
adj (well armed when postpositive)
1. having many or good weapons well-armed forces
2. suitably prepared in advance well-armed for an argument

Tuesday:

Tuesday: This is rather big, far more than normal.

I like Michele and I like her message. I'm 100% with her. She's a smart lady and I agree that we conservatives (republicans, independents, and democrats) need to arm ourselves and get ready for a huge fight.