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9. Lokakuu 2011, 20:17:45
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Jules
You have been sufficiently debunked. Next topic please. After your wounds heal of course.

9. Lokakuu 2011, 20:17:11
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Will the "Jules study" refutations ever end???

9. Lokakuu 2011, 20:15:33
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: and on and on and on and on......so much proof againt MMGW....so little time
In another fictional story of 'global warming,' it was claimed that 1998 was the warmest year on record in the US (part of ye olde 'runaway warming').

However, more investigation by climate skeptics appears to have handily debunked that claim as well, causing NASA to retract its claim and reinstate 1934 as the warmest year on record in the US.



Steve McIntyre, of Toronto operates www.climateaudit.org and began to investigate the data and the methods used to arrive at the results that were graphed by NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS).

What he discovered was truly amazing. Since NASA does not fully publish the computer source code and formulae used to calculate the trends in the graph, nor the correction used to arrive at the “corrected” data. He had to reverse engineer the process by comparing the raw data and the processed data.


Source: wattsupwiththat.com



He further refines his argument showing the distribution of the error, and the problems with the USHCN temperature data. He also sends an email to NASA GISS advising of the problem.

He finally publishes it here, stating that NASA made a correction not only on their own web page, attributing the discovery to McIntyre, but NASA also issued a corrected set of temperature anomaly data...


Source: wattsupwiththat.com



According to the new data published by NASA, 1998 is no longer the hottest year ever. 1934 is.

Four of the top 10 years of US CONUS high temperature deviations are now from the 1930s: 1934, 1931, 1938 and 1939, while only 3 of the top 10 are from the last 10 years (1998, 2006, 1999). Several years (2000, 2002, 2003, 2004) fell well down the leaderboard, behind even 1900.


Source: wattsupwiththat.com



It was never supposed to be a trick question. Which year is the hottest on record? Depending where one looks, there are three different answers: 2006, 1998 or 1934. Until last week, the answer was supposed to be 2006, but it might have been 1998. Now, citing corrections of faulty data, NASA says it was actually 1934. The National Climactic Data Center disagrees; it still says 1998.

The differences are a matter of tenths of a degree Celsius, which might seem to diminish the significance of the corrections. Except that unusually warm years in the 1920s, 1930s and 1950s are themselves only a few tenths of a degree Celsius away from the purportedly dangerous hot temperatures of the present. Only one thing is certain: The political debate over global warming has rushed far ahead of the science.


Source: washingtontimes.com



When researchers checked, they found that the agency had merged two data sets that had been incorrectly assumed to match.

When the data were corrected, it resulted in a decrease of 0.27 degrees Fahrenheit in yearly temperatures since 2000 and a smaller decrease in earlier years.

That meant that 1998, which had been 0.02 degrees warmer than 1934, was now 0.04 degrees cooler.

Schmidt said that researchers had always known that the difference between 1934 and 1998 was so small, it was virtually impossible to rank them.


Source: articles.latimes.com


Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Scientists Increasingly Dissent With Global Warming Proponents. | NowPublic News Coverage http://www.nowpublic.com/environment/scientists-increasingly-dissent-global-warming-proponents#ixzz1aJGSSGUq

9. Lokakuu 2011, 20:12:18
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: HEre's a finding for Jules do dodge
The newest analysis was released by Hudson Institute Senior Fellow Dennis Avery, who said of the 500 scientists who have refuted at least one element of the global warming scare, more than 300 have found evidence that a natural moderate 1,500-year climate cycle has produced more than a dozen global warmings similar to the current circumstances since the last Ice Age and that such warmings are linked to variations in the sun's irradiance.

"This data and the list of scientists make a mockery of recent claims that a scientific consensus blames humans as the primary cause of global temperature increases since 1850," he said.


Source: worldnetdaily.com

9. Lokakuu 2011, 20:11:20
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: As I said, the study your insist on citing is FLAWED. You lose.
(V): than quit dodging.

9. Lokakuu 2011, 20:10:54
Papa Zoom 
More than 500 scientists have published evidence refuting the current man-made global warming scare, according to a new analysis of peer-reviewed literature by the Hudson Institute.


Source: worldnetdaily.com


BTW, these papers were ignored by Jules "study"

9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:59:53
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: Your numbers are wrong. It's NOT 97 - 3. Get current.
(V): As I said, the study your insist on citing is FLAWED. You lose.

9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:59:00
Papa Zoom 


We often hear how the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) and the American Meteorological Society (AMS) issued statements endorsing the so-called "consensus" view that man is driving global warming. But what you don't hear is that both the NAS and AMS never allowed member scientists to directly vote on these climate statements.


 Essentially, only two dozen or so members on the governing boards of these institutions produced the "consensus" statements. It appears that the governing boards of these organizations caved in to pressure from those promoting the politically correct view
 


Source: epw.senate.gov


 


9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:57:55
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: Plant a tree for your tomarrow
Vikings: yep

9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:57:22
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: And this FACT
While it may appear to the casual observer that scientists promoting climate fears are in the majority, the evidence continues to reveal this is an illusion. Climate skeptics -- the emerging silent majority of scientists -- receive much smaller shares of university research funds, foundation funds and government grants and they are not plugged into the well-heeled environmental special interest lobby.

On the other side of the climate debate, you have an comparatively well funded group of scientists and activists who participate in UN conferences, receiving foundation monies and international government support and also receive fawning media treatment.

The number of skeptics at first glance may appear smaller, but the skeptics are increasingly becoming vocal and turning the tables on the Goliath that has become the global warming fear industry.


Source: epw.senate.gov

9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:55:25
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: and another fact for Jules to ignore
Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called "consensus" on man-made global warming. These scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.

The new report issued by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP Ranking Member details the views of the scientists, the overwhelming majority of whom spoke out in 2007.

Even some in the establishment media now appear to be taking notice of the growing number of skeptical scientists. In October, the Washington Post Staff Writer Juliet Eilperin conceded the obvious, writing that climate skeptics "appear to be expanding rather than shrinking." Many scientists from around the world have dubbed 2007 as the year man-made global warming fears "bite the dust."


Source: epw.senate.gov

9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:54:20
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Just ONE example
Earlier ... a group of prominent scientists came forward to question the so-called “consensus” that the Earth faces a “climate emergency.” On April 6, 2006, 60 scientists wrote a letter to the Canadian Prime Minister asserting that the science is deteriorating from underneath global warming alarmists.

“Observational evidence does not support today's computer climate models, so there is little reason to trust model predictions of the future…Significant [scientific] advances have been made since the [Kyoto] protocol was created, many of which are taking us away from a concern about increasing greenhouse gases. If, back in the mid-1990s, we knew what we know today about climate, Kyoto would almost certainly not exist, because we would have concluded it was not necessary,” the 60 scientists wrote.


Source: epw.senate.gov

9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:53:52
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: By your own argument, those scientists should be disqualified from consideration since they are supported by monies from those that benifit from the global warming hoax.
(V): Your numbers are wrong. It's NOT 97 - 3. Get current.

9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:49:15
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: By your own argument, those scientists should be disqualified from consideration since they are supported by monies from those that benifit from the global warming hoax.
(V): Don't get it do you. The "study" you're using is flawed. It excluded input from many scientists. Hardly a balanced study. Easy to conclude that the "findings" were intended to lean in a particular direction.

9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:43:59
Papa Zoom 
And I shouldn't even call it a study as that isn't accurate either. A limited survey is more like it. Very limited. The "study" Jules is using EXCLUDED a huge number of climatologists and other scientists. Much like surveying ONLY CONSERVATIVES on an issue and using the data to generalize the position of a populace.

9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:40:42
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: I'm going to make fun of your 97, 97 times.
(V): By your own argument, those scientists should be disqualified from consideration since they are supported by monies from those that benifit from the global warming hoax.

BTW, even the study you have used to claim this inflated 97% is both unscientific and flawed. So even if you repeat it 97 times, it will still be a bogus claim.

9. Lokakuu 2011, 19:37:41
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:
Vikings: thanks for the idea. Then I'll fall down for 97 seconds while recovering from my dizziness.

9. Lokakuu 2011, 17:00:20
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:
(V): I'm not done yet. I'm going to make fun of your 97, 97 times.

9. Lokakuu 2011, 01:04:29
Papa Zoom 
97 percent of people who own computers own at least one. And it may be as high as 100%!


9. Lokakuu 2011, 00:59:53
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:
Bernice: 97% of all college students break the law.

9. Lokakuu 2011, 00:37:00
Papa Zoom 
In the history of candidates, Obama has taken MORE contributions from Wall Street than ANYONE ELSE! And yet the lemmings in OWS are for Obama, and against his support network? How "duh" is that???

9. Lokakuu 2011, 00:34:29
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: you'll have to google it to find out who said it. lol
"The Democratic Party loves mob uprisings, it’s their rise to power.”

9. Lokakuu 2011, 00:31:09
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: these morons are lemmings

9. Lokakuu 2011, 00:25:52
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:
(V): "some law"

"as in "breaking of..."???


9. Lokakuu 2011, 00:24:36
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:You do have some proof of this? Some article or leak from an reputable source >>> not like Bush and his Fake WMD's
(V): Do you have an obsession with Bush?

Of course I have proof!

8. Lokakuu 2011, 23:47:57
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:I know enough of chemistry to know that you cannot pollute or add to a closed environment (as in the atmosphere is covered by a vacuum) ....and have no effect.
(V): In other words, man made global warming is true because you own a car???

8. Lokakuu 2011, 21:07:46
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: say it ain't so Al!~
30 Sep 2011 - Al Gore Doctored A Video That's Supposed To Prove His Global Warming Theories [More proof as to how the False Prophet of the Global Warming Cult operates and just how desperate he is to make his nonsense and lies appear real]

8. Lokakuu 2011, 21:00:53
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: And
Another lie claims that there is a consensus among climate scientists that a known man-made global warming crisis exists. Official statements to the contrary presented by more than 650 international climate-related experts who presented contrary official testimony recorded in a 2008 U.S. Senate minority report suggest otherwise. So do petitions signed by more than 30,000 scientists that have challenged IPCC's 1995 procedures and report representations. Those circumstances prompted Dr. Frederick Seitz, former president of the U.S. Academy of Sciences, the American Physical Society, and Rockefeller University to write in The Wall Street Journal: "I have never witnessed a more disturbing corruption of the peer review process than events that led to this IPCC report."

hmmmmmmmm

8. Lokakuu 2011, 20:59:47
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: And how about this?
S. Fred Singer, former director of the U.S. Weather Satellite Service and University of Virginia professor emeritus commented about these sorry circumstances stating in part:

"Many would place the beginning of the global warming hoax on the Senate testimony delivered by James Hansen of NASA [director of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies] during the summer of 1988. More than anything else, this exhibition of hyped alarm triggered my active skepticism about the man-made global warming scare. This skepticism was amplified when I acted as reviewer of the first three IPCC reports, in 1990, 1996, and 2001. Increasingly claims were made for which there was no evidence; in some cases the 'evidence' was clearly manufactured. For example, the 1966 report used selective data and doctored graphs. It also featured changes in the text that were made after the scientists had approved it and before it was printed."

8. Lokakuu 2011, 20:58:33
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Global Warming
The claim that climate change is human caused is based solely on speculative theories. Warming modeling predictions are unproven and flawed. AND, many (if not most) of those scientists that promote the man-made global warming scenario earn their living ONLY if they hold to their global warming positions. hmmmmmm

8. Lokakuu 2011, 20:47:04
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:So.. can you personally prove the 97% wrong without changing the subject?
(V): Here's a fact for you: 97% to 98% of climate researchers (if not more) are paid by the government and climate interest groups to support and to advance the global warming hypothesis and, guess what, they do.


8. Lokakuu 2011, 20:34:22
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:So.. can you personally prove the 97% wrong without changing the subject?
(V): yes I do. Thanks for asking.

8. Lokakuu 2011, 20:20:31
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:So.. can you personally prove the 97% wrong without changing the subject?
Artful Dodger: can you prove they are right???

8. Lokakuu 2011, 20:13:44
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:So.. can you personally prove the 97% wrong without changing the subject?
(V): You are asking someone to stay on point???

8. Lokakuu 2011, 20:01:06
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:Man made? That's where the junk science comes in.
(V): I'm not a voice on a game site. That's you.

8. Lokakuu 2011, 19:58:40
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:
(V): Politicians forced many banks into bad loans and then bank greed took over

8. Lokakuu 2011, 19:20:07
Papa Zoom 
The Tea Party never made a mess of public property and always left it better than when they arrived. No hate speech, no violence. And yet Dems were all over it with criticisms. And yet with Occupy Wallstreet, they are all in favor. Pelosi says, "God bless them." This in spite of all the racial slurs, violence, and thrashing of public property. See for yourself.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-Shocking-photos-protester-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html

8. Lokakuu 2011, 19:07:26
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:
gogul: We've seen these things before in the history of the world. Climate changes. Normal cycyle. Nothing new. Man made? That's where the junk science comes in.

8. Lokakuu 2011, 18:39:07
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:
gogul: Global warming/Climate change is junk science. Period.

8. Lokakuu 2011, 05:44:26
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: another fact of 97
I just counted to 97.

97 times!

8. Lokakuu 2011, 05:42:57
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Tweets with 97
Wie kanker heeft, heeft maar 1 wens, genezen. Ik denk dat 97% deze tweet niet retweet. Maar ik hoop dat jij bij de andere 3% hoort.

97% of twitter users won't RT this, but the other 3% will cause they have a heart  RT if you are one of the 3% http://yfrog.com/obwwgj

#Top10Lies "I got swag" I guarantee you 97% of the people who say it can't even tell you what it means

The DAVE GLOVER show LIVE from THE ARENA ~ St. Louis - @GlennBeck & @SarahPalin event tonight FM NewsTalk 97.1 http://is.gd/6p5Yvj

97.9 playing all the island tunes. That's what I like to hear!!

RT @oilysailor: Gareth Barry 36 passes & 97% completion rate so far. The Hastings Xavi.

What I do during a scary movie: 97%- OMG YOU'RE SO STUPID OMG IS HE DUMB?! DONT GO IN THERE. OMG I TOLD YOU, I TOLD YOU! 3%- Aw, he died..

Amazon: Bendaroo 500 Mega Pack for $6.97 Shipped!: Amazon has a hot deal on the Bendaroos 500 Count Mega Pack –... http://bit.ly/pufJP3

There Are 97,000,000 Songs In This World...: Still think that fans will somehow find your music? The latest supe... http://bit.ly/rtYgva

97 degrees now

According to Gaon Annual Chart, KARA 3rd Album STEP has been sold for 97,667 copies! Nice work Kamilia! (cont) http://tl.gd/dgbage

Musichype says there are 97 MILLION songs out in the cloud. Staggering. #DMFW

8. Lokakuu 2011, 05:23:19
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Some FACTUAL things with 97
Gilman's Jones shows why he's considered among best in the country
Standout's 97-yard return lifts Greyhounds past Calvert Hall
The second, a 97-yard game-winning punt return touchdown by Cyrus Jones, with a tick under three minutes left in regulation, was further proof that Jones in one of the top playmakers in the country.

IDT Corp.'s (IDT) fiscal fourth-quarter profit fell 97% as weaker phone-card revenue dragged down the company's bottom line.

The latest Batman: Arkham City review score to hit the net is from the issue 244 of Games Master and it's an absolute celebration of the Rocksteady sequel.
The mag's given Arkham City 97% but it's the words that really give an indication of just how special this game is.

Rose McCoy dead at 97

Williamson Fire Chief: levy 97 votes short

CHEMULT, Ore. -- A Chemult man was seriously injured Wednesday afternoon when his car left Highway 97 near the Highway 58 junction and collided with several trees, Oregon State Police said.

Virginia teenager sentenced to 97 years in prison for robberies

97% of Brits worried about the threat of hacking

Arch West, a Frito-Lay executive who invented the crunchy, triangular tortilla chips known as “Doritos,” a fingertip-licking snack of choice for legions of couch-lounging football fans, highway-cruising truck drivers and munchie-craving college kids, died Sept. 20 at a hospital in Dallas. He was 97.

I see no problem with this. Of course if it were me, I would have also lost the phone. A 97-year-old Greenfield, Wis., man wanted to watch the Brewers-Pirates game a couple of weeks back, but couldn’t find the remote. So he called 911 to report that someone had stolen it.

REAL stories with a FACTUAL use of the number 97.

Comming soon: 97 reasons why AD is always right.

8. Lokakuu 2011, 05:13:26
Papa Zoom 
Obama's approval rating ties an all time low.

8. Lokakuu 2011, 03:26:57
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: No. YOu just tried to blow off the bloggers I read with personal attacks.
rod03801: They should charge criminals room and board!

7. Lokakuu 2011, 21:39:50
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: No. YOu just tried to blow off the bloggers I read with personal attacks.
(V): 97%? You use a calculator to figure that out?

You're just mad cuz I pointed out your error. CIA is part of the government as is HS and DOF and others. The point that you missed was the irony within the statement itself. Now your onto terrorism. Staying on topic with you is like a drunk trying to walk a straight line.

7. Lokakuu 2011, 20:20:48
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:
(V): duh, the CIA is the government.

7. Lokakuu 2011, 20:20:13
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: No. YOu just tried to blow off the bloggers I read with personal attacks.
(V): Here's what I know about you. You don't counter the arguments of those bloggers. You just call them names.

7. Lokakuu 2011, 16:07:40
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
October 7, 2011
Steve Jobs Never Got a Government Loan
Ethel C. Fenig

Listening to President Barack Obama (D) whining and complaining during his news conference/campaign speech Thursday that if the selfish and greedy Republicans won't pass his jobs bill now! and tax the millionaires and billionaires now! the whole country--especially his union and/or lefty backers--won't get its necessary jobs jolt now! was quite a contrast to the tributes paid to Steve Jobs.

Steve Jobs and his friend Steve Wozniak started Apple in Jobs' parents' garage as a pair of 20 somethings, all without government help.

And Apple grew--again without government help. Microsoft. Google. Facebook. All started without government help by a bunch of kids (I'm over 40; 20 and 30 somethings are kids).

They discovered and grew without government help.

They created thousands of jobs... without government help.

They created wealth for thousands; many became millionaires, some even billionaires... all without government help.

They made life better, easier, safer, more productive... all without government.

They paid more than their share of taxes while receiving less than their share of government. And that's why they prospered and succeeded. All without government help.

As the late President Ronald Reagan (R) liked to say, "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

7. Lokakuu 2011, 15:54:44
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:
(V): Climate change is a farce. It doesn't matter even a little that Big Oil would hire someone to do a study etc. Unless it can be proven that they paid someone to lie. Then it's a story. But the real story with climate change is that top scientists are defecting AWAY from the climate change hypothesis. That's a FACT. The reason? It's a farce and a farce can hold on only so long.

7. Lokakuu 2011, 15:52:23
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: but at least my opinion has more reality behind it than the bloggers you frequent
(V): No. YOu just tried to blow off the bloggers I read with personal attacks. As if they are bozos with no knowledge. But they clearly know far more than do you. I was just pointing that out.

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