rod03801: of coarse, the U.S. started it 200 years before anyone was here

(V): So, they are justified in killing and raping and burning and just being thugs?

One of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

Anyone who believes that has to be as nutty as they are.

Vikings: Anyone who doesn't think this has been a match that lit a waiting petrol soaked woodpile, is a clueless about being respectful... especially in the current world..

... as an asteroid is about the life that might be on the planet it is going to hit.

Well, hey.. it did exist first, been away awhile in deep space.

Artful Dodger: It's not the film but the content.

I'm sure you'd feel happy (as in the film) to have Jesus called a bastard.

Would you appreciate under the USA's free speech laws a group of Muslims standing outside your church with signs saying...

"JESUS HAS NO FATHER".
.. "HE IS A BAS*@%*"

But the Muslims seem to have respect enough to not do this. Maybe they don't want to start riots.

The Col: IMO they didn't try to build on them.. but, re-invent.

Artful Dodger: [ And the media is covering fer him ]

I sometimes wonder what is going on with the media. With the loss of reader and viewership (which in the real world means loss of revenue) you would think they might want to get back to basic principles of journalism... because simply telling the truth actually sells papers and draws in viewers (and listeners).

Whether they like what the news is telling them or not, some people actually want to know what is happening. Even people who prefer to hear what they want to hear are better served knowing.

Politicians don't kid themselves about what is true or not, even if some of them aren't telling us the truth. But there's no reason for someone like me to not want to know... the only thing I can do with a fantasy is to daydream. Fantasies have no other practical purpose.

Iamon lyme: And the media is covering fer him

Artful Dodger: [ Obama's Connecticut Social Security Number ]

This is one of the funniest duck cover and hide jobs I've ever seen... correction, it IS the funniest. And not just the social security number, I mean all of it. Like the girl he once dated that didn't exist. He needed a birth certificate (oops, clerical error) to get a social security number (oops, another clerical error). Reality just doesn't seem to like Mr Obama, because facts keep popping up to rear their ugly heads. Oh, and some women he dated are actually all one woman... or is it the other way around? (uh, um, eh, clerical error?). This guy has a numbers and facts problem. Seriously, how many "clerical" errors is a person allowed to claim in one lifetime? LOL

It's like all three of the stooges are wrapped up into and represented by one guy. It's amazing to see how this is unfolding.

Obama will have nowhere to hide when his presidency is over, but I'll bet he won't have to face any significant consequences. Clinton has already proven how convenient being the president can be... as Mel Brooks said in one of his movies, "It's good to be the king."

Nooooooooo kidding!?

Articles: A Possible Explanation for Obama's Connecticut Social Security Number Link shortened to fit on screenr

Artful Dodger: any one who thinks this happened because of a movie is just as clueless about foreign policy as the anointed one

Over a stupid movie. Savages

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/213588.php

http://youtu.be/JA6vRC1xW_c

The Christian world didn't go about killing Jews and burning embassies over this short. So why should we give a crap about offending a bunch of 16th century nuts? Oh yeah, cuz they kill people when they get pissed. I get it. Give in to the terrorists. That's a great idea and sounds so manly!

In an "art" museum there is a cross in a bottle of urine. It's allowed because of free speech. Sure there are complaints and protests, but no mass killings, rapes, and mob violence. Only with Muslims do you get that kind of response for some silly poorly done film. The guy looked more like an American Jesus than he did an Eastern Muslim male. Those crazies don't need a real reason to rape and kill. They will use anything.

Our response must not be soft and fluffy. I don't care that they get offended. That's no reason for mob violence and we ought NOT to apologize to those who are our sworn enemies.

Since when does America or Canada or Europe coddle to terrorist scum?

The Muslims rape and murder and the left blames some guy with a camera. I blame the rapists and the murderers.

It's like blaming the bank for the robbers taking their money. (because they had all that money in the bank!)

(V): Not when it comes to cars, they destroyed the classic Mustang and T Bird IMO.....politically speaking of course

The Col: Good design doesn't die... it just gets built on

(V): I've decided to go Plasma next time , but my 50" Sony led is still a great tv

The Col: ... I'm being very surprised over LED lights. Not only how they have gotten better over the last few years, but also cheaper... as well as the power use reduction.

(V): They don't tend to need a reason , giving them one would make matters worse...................ebay? I am taking a sabbatical, I went nuts on ebay since January

The Col: I wondered from what you said if it was that it's put normal Israelis in line for some nutter to feel justified in blowing people up.

The film maker said he did intend to create violence!!

(V): No link, just figured since he initially blamed it on an Israeli

Rafat Ali tweets:
Our Imam at Friday prayers today: how can you expect Allah to show mercy on you if you can't show mercy to those who offend you? #peace

The Col: He's peeved off the Jews?? Sorry eyes tired from ebay.. got a link?

(V): So now this guy has both Muslims and Jews pissed

The Col: I had read.. though that version is fuller than the one I did.

(V): The story link explains it in detail

Can we have the 101 (or more) people involved stand up and take responsibility for their actions? Being a free man includes being responsible!

Stocks.. A big line of stocks. ... Pay and throw??

The Col: 100 people financed a $5,000,000,000 film.

Who are they?

(V): Washington: Federal authorities have identified a Coptic Christian in southern California who is on probation after his conviction for financial crimes as the key figure behind the anti-Muslim film that ignited mob violence against US embassies across the Mideast, a US law enforcement official told The Associated Press on Thursday.

The official said authorities had concluded that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, was behind "Innocence of Muslims," a film that denigrated Islam and the prophet Muhammad and sparked protests earlier this week in Egypt, Libya and most recently in Yemen. It was not immediately clear whether Nakoula was the target of a criminal investigation or part of the broader investigation into the deaths of US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans in Libya during a terrorist attack.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/us-identifies-the-man-who-allegedly-made-the-anti-islam-film-267158

Well... Ok, I watched a little of the anti Islam film. Some strange bumch of American Israeli mix or Israeli American, American and/or Israeli with a $5 million dollar budget.

I must ask.. especially with the label and science there of... could Jesus get a DNA test to prove who's his daddy??

.. the coward who made the film who intended to incite violence is in hiding. Make him be responsible and stand face to face with one Muslim.

.. But he's using America as a human shield.

Prince Harry at the party was kinda ... ... well men do at parties (especially ones who serve in armed forces) as men do... it is nothing special. That Cromwell's head was embalmed and then travelled from owner to owner for 300 years before being reburied....

Yes.. Oliver was dead for two years.. then Charles II and his mates had him exhumed... beheaded and the head planted on a spike.. in a nice location, well.. one that gave it a wide audience.

It was a kinda news service back then, this spike thing!

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are reported to be furious after a French magazine published topless photos of the duchess in a French magazine. The publication Closer printed the pictures, taken during the couple's holiday at the French chateau of the Queen's nephew, Lord Linley.

The photos are blurry and taken with a long lens but are clearly of the royal couple, the BBC's Paris bureau says. There are four pages of photos of the couple with Kate topless in several. They were told about the magazine's plan to publish the photos during breakfast in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, on their Asian tour.

It has emerged that British newspapers were offered photographs last week but turned them down. BBC royal correspondent Peter Hunt says: "Royal officials say they accept the photos are genuine and the couple are furious.

"They believe a "red line" has been crossed. The couple cannot believe someone would take such photos and publish them.

"The officials stress the couple couldn't have gone to a more secluded location in France. They were a "young couple enjoying a holiday". "There has been a significant hardening of William and Kate's response to the publication of the topless photos."

The royal couple continued with their nine-day tour, which is part of the Queen's Diamond Jubilee celebrations, on Friday by visiting a mosque in Kuala Lumpur. On Thursday, the duchess gave her first official speech abroad while visiting a hospice in the capital.

"Providing children and their families with a place of support, care and enhancement at a time of great need is simply life changing," she said. She said the couple were "hugely excited" to be in Malaysia, after they had started their tour in Singapore.

The emergence of the magazine photos follows the controversy over the publication of pictures of a naked Prince Harry, Kate's brother-in-law, which were taken in a Las Vegas hotel room last month.

>>>>>>>The future of the magazine...

... screwed!!

Übergeek 바둑이: ... a Monty Python moment..

I don't.

less of the stereotyping please.

Artful Dodger:

> But to be clear, the God of the universe is not the god of Islam. Islam's god is Satan. Sad but it's true.


Assumption #1: Satan exists
Assumption #2: God exists
Assumption #3: You can prove assumptions 1 and 2 above.
Assumption #4: God and Satan are different entities.

Of course, what happens if these assumptions are wrong. I would challenge both Christians and Moslems to prove scientifically and without a doubt that their gods exist and that Satan exists.

Of course, Christians and Moslems want to see their gods as being different, even though both religions have their origins in the Judaism of Abraham, which is predated by the monotheism of the Zoroastrians, and that in turn is predated by the cult of Theus Pater among the Protoindoeuropeans.

N' building a PC only starts with one decision.

.. Intel or AMD?

That is, if you want to stick to and develop your system... resourcefully and economically.

I chose AMD as the socket system was more flexible on what CPU's.... later I learnt, with the right motherboard... you may get a chip that is better than stated through a process called unlocking.

It's the same as building an engine.

Artful Dodger: really..

Not a pantheist.

"...Origen was a prolific writer in multiple branches of theology, including textual criticism, biblical exegesis and hermeneutics, philosophical theology, preaching, and spirituality. Some of his teachings, however, quickly became controversial. Notably, he frequently referred to his hypothesis of the pre-existence of souls. As in the beginning all intelligent beings were united to God, Origen also held out the possibility, though he did not assert so definitively, that in the end all beings, perhaps even the arch-fiend Satan,[5] would be reconciled to God in what is called the apokatastasis ("restitution")..."

Sadly alot of his work, as with many gospels were burnt by Christian factions arguing about who's version is right.. along with stabbing, clubbing and other bad mannered activities.

(V): He was mostly orthodox and confirmed God as creator etc. he did have a few wild ideas but wasn't a pantheist.

Artful Dodger: Second law of thermal underware? What's the first law?

No, wait... never mind. If it doesn't itch that's all I need to know.

Artful Dodger: Origen said it in 250AD.

And it doesn't itch

Iamon lyme: have you heard of the second law of thermal underwear? It used to be Weight=Warmth. But that's no longer true. Arctic fabric technology is lightweight fabric and surpasses thermal undies for heat capture. Another theory debunked.

(V): I let go a lot. Nancy yell then.

Dang ipad

Iamon lyme: Pictures...n' anything else they feel morally obliged to point out.

Yet an old Zen saying stipulates the peacefulness of letting goooooooooooooo. .... ... ooooooooooooo

Artful Dodger: Haha. Not but

(V): well that's more new age of ya. I feel better now. Now god is a cow fart. The material world is not God but yes God created it all. It is not god however. As you said, God just is. He is infinite with no beginning. Material can be traced to a beginning. And then there's that 2nd Law of Thermodynamics . It cuts short the infinite by an infinite.