Pioneer54: Quite often, playing in tournaments, one meets players rated 400 points or more below your own raying. You may get 1 point for winning, with sometimes a loss of over 100 points for a loss!!
Swiss tournaments would, to a large extent, stop this happening. They combine the best of knock-outs and all-play-all tournaments.

tonyh: Quite true, arrangements would not be easy by any means. But Filip has the aptitude for this, as he has proven many times heretofore. At issue is whether he wants to expand the methods of tournament creation, or (to be more direct) whether he can be persuaded that he wants to by us! The only way that will happen is if enough members request it.

The single elimination tournaments are tilted in favor of the highest rated player. In the new types of tournaments we've discussed, that player might still win, but it would require more effort and exacting play, and the chances among all the entrants would be more balanced.

I also think that the restriction limiting pawns to one tournament should be lifted. It doesn't induce membership and, as to the databases, I don't see the difference between storing 20 tournament games as opposed to 20 casual games, or some combination thereof.

Some things to ponder .....

Pioneer54: You've said it!! Mind you, I imagine it would be horribly difficult to program; fencer would be really stretched on this one!

tonyh: Swiss is a good basis; after all, it is the most widely used in OTB tournaments. From that system, many interesting formats could be created.

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Pioneer54: Yes, interesting, a Swiss Tournament.

Pioneer54: Sort of Pond tourney. We should ask Fencer...

joshi tm: Interesting! If only we could test these theories
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Pioneer54: I know also a nice tournament format, but that only works if player's BKR are evenly.

All players are put in a gigantic stair match with 3 pts.

Rules are like stairs, but when a games resolves, the winner recieves nothing (but BKR points), the loser recieves a -1 penalty. Of course, having zero points causes direct elimination. The last one standing is the winner.

What follows received NO RESPONSE on the 'features' board, so let's try it here:

I'd like to investigate the possibility of establishing "double elimination" tournaments. Eight entrants may be optimal, although any of the multiples available for single elimination would suffice.

Here is a proposal. Each player would start with two game points. Following each round, points are DEDUCTED for results as follows:
WIN -- No points
DRAW -- one-half point
LOSS -- one full point

Players would be eliminated whenever their point total drops to zero. Therefore, each entrant will play in at least the first two rounds.

In the first round, players would be paired normally according to ratings. In the second round, winners play winners and losers play losers, etc. and in successive rounds players are paired against others with point totals equal or within a half-point of theirs, as closely as possible. Also, to balance the opportunity, each player should have roughly the same amount of Blacks as Whites over the course of the tournament.

It may occur that an odd number of players would start a round, which could be resolved by issuing a bye to the lowest rated player with the fewest points, except if the tournament is reduced to three players, a round-robin round should commence until two players remain, and then match play until one is the winner.

There may be other flaws that need to be ironed out, yet the system would produce interesting games and results.

Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Logik #1
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Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #9
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.. plus I still have a few other game tournaments that still need a few players each: http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trnst=0&u=2560

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Retep: Yes, looks like a small bug for the new games.

If I search for Ice Age Chess or FrogFinder tournaments nothing is found.. is this a bug?

Universal Eyes: Yes, it works. I'm in two different team tournaments of the same game type.  Representing the same team, of course.

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tarcellius:Have you tried to sign up for more than one team tournament?

KotDB: By the way, to those who responded about my issue of tournament eligibility as a knight (several days back), it turns out KotDB was right. Apparently knights can enter more than one tournament of a game type now.

I tested the theory by signing up for several dice poker tourneys over a few days, and that worked fine. Sure enough, I'm in aaru's tourney now with no problems.

So thanks, KotDB, for saving me some money!

There was a small bug in the first tournament I set up in which all players got the same board up - so I had Fencer delete those games since it was easy to tell where the frogs where - so I set up a new #1 tournament, along with the other 5:

Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #1

Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #2
Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #3
Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #4
Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #5

Plus someone said they did not like to play rated games for new games which might be unbalanced - so here is a quick unrated tournament for those who don't want to mess up their ratings yet:

Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder UNRATED

BIG BAD WOLF: Thanks for the quick reply, i've signed for one of the fast starts

furbster: Have you ever played minesweeper on the computer? Where you click on a square, and it gives a number - which is how many mines are in the 8 squares around the SHOT.

Same thing here - but for 2 players. Your 5 men & your opponets 5 men are put on the same board - you have to shoot to get the number until you think you can determin where a man is and guess where they are.

Good points for guessing correctly, bad points for hitting a man or guessing wrong.

** edited to change the word guess to shot

Fencer: hehe cool, so is the aim to find the mines or to avoid them?

furbster: I guess so. BBW is the game inventor.

BIG BAD WOLF: any idea how to play it?

Think Minesweeper for 2 players


Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #1
Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #2
Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #3
Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #4
Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder #5

Plus someone said they did not like to play rated games for new games which might be unbalanced - so here is a quick unrated tournament for those who don't want to mess up their ratings yet:

Fast Start - First 5 to sign - Frog Finder UNRATED

thank yoou so much, i am going to have to learn how to do that.

ellie

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