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29. Toukokuu 2005, 21:18:00
Mort 
Otsikko: Re: Opinions wanted
THE HIT MAN: That's a tricky one, some could fake it.

29. Toukokuu 2005, 21:17:04
Bry 
Otsikko: Re: Opinions wanted
THE HIT MAN: right, now we understand what you mean by "Bad Conduct".

My opinion - I would just ignore them. They have as much right to play in the tournament as anyone else. However, if the comments are much more are rude, threatening and very personal etc, then I suppose it should be brought to the attention of Fencer privately either directly or through the GM's.

Just my opinion.

29. Toukokuu 2005, 21:11:09
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Re: Opinions wanted
Bry: OK comments made in game playing its self.Are offending to some,which can throw them off and possible for that game and there remaining games that they are playing until they get over the comment which was used on them.Its works well and does affect ppl as we all Know

29. Toukokuu 2005, 21:07:24
Purple 
Otsikko: Re: Opinions wanted
baddessi: The use of more than one nic in a tournament should disqualify the player.

29. Toukokuu 2005, 21:00:35
baddessi 
Otsikko: Re: Opinions wanted
Jules: None that I know of really. I just wasn't sure what he meant about "bad conduct"
If it's acceptable to win using programs and that isn't ruled out in the tournament to begin with, then I would think that any wins would be acceptable.
I just meant if there was some way to prove someone actually cheated in some other way, that would disqualify them from a prize. Otherwise, then if they win the games, the prize should be given.
I guess what I'm trying to say is a prize shouldn't be determined by a person's words or any personality conflicts. That if they win, they should get the prize.

29. Toukokuu 2005, 20:49:48
Mort 
Otsikko: Re: Opinions wanted
Muokannut Mort (29. Toukokuu 2005, 20:52:38)
baddessi: By Cheater do you mean someone who uses a program or device in order to decide their moves? If so, there are a number who have admitted to using programs in regular games, yet their ratings will already be high. The only way of detecting I know of if someone suddenly changes form in a significant fashion if they have an existing rating.

Is their other ways?

29. Toukokuu 2005, 20:23:24
baddessi 
Otsikko: Re: Opinions wanted
THE HIT MAN: I think that if a prize is offered for a tournament, then the winner of the games of that tournament should win the prize.
But, I agree with Bry, it depends on what you mean by "bad conduct"
If it can be proved the person cheated to win, then they shouldn't win the prize. If you mean that they used words in a game that someone personally doesn't like, then that should have no bearing on whether they win the prize or not. The win should be based on the games won. Just my opinion.

29. Toukokuu 2005, 20:05:01
Bry 
Otsikko: Re: Opinions wanted
THE HIT MAN: No, bad or poor conduct are the same thing. What I am saying, is that you are asking for feelings on "Bad Conduct" in tournaments. What is happening that you are suggesting is "Bad Conduct"?

It depends what the "Bad Conduct" is.

29. Toukokuu 2005, 19:24:14
Pedro Martínez 
How would we word what?

29. Toukokuu 2005, 19:04:30
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Re: Opinions wanted
Bry: Is the word BAD CONDUCT better to understand,For everyone.If not how would you word it?

29. Toukokuu 2005, 18:10:40
Bry 
Otsikko: Re: Opinions wanted
THE HIT MAN: what do you class as "poor conduct"?

29. Toukokuu 2005, 18:01:53
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Re:
rod03801: Thanks Rod

29. Toukokuu 2005, 18:00:40
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Opinions wanted
Muokannut THE HIT MAN (29. Toukokuu 2005, 19:01:00)
What are your feelings on BAD CONDUCT While playing in said TOURNAMENTS where PRIZES are offered or on TOURMAMENT BOARD.Should a PLAYER be removed from winning that prize offered.Not the tournament just the PRIZE

29. Toukokuu 2005, 17:52:56
rod03801 
Yes, if the round is only 1 section, the tie is not broken. If an advanced round is created with just 2 people, it is a 3 win match. And if an advanced round is created with 3 or more people, it is a regular round.

29. Toukokuu 2005, 17:48:31
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Re: ?
Bry: Thanks again Bry

29. Toukokuu 2005, 17:39:17
Bry 
Otsikko: Re: ?
THE HIT MAN: not 100% sure, but i think if only 2 players make it to the final round, it is a 3 wins match. if more than 2 players make it to the final round, more than one player can win, and if there is a draw, they both win and those two do not then go into a 3 match game.

I recall this being discussed on BK.Com I think if you check through the thread.

If i'm wrong, please can someone else confirm. Cheers.

29. Toukokuu 2005, 17:37:09
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Re: ?
Bry:Thanks Bry

29. Toukokuu 2005, 17:36:20
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: ?
Also i have noticed tournaments wins Sometimes there are more than 1 winner in a game,Others there is another play off section.Who controls these happnings

29. Toukokuu 2005, 17:32:06
Bry 
Otsikko: Re: ?
THE HIT MAN: do you mean when someone wins a tournament you have created? if so, an automatic message is created and sent to the winner and the creator of the tournament, which are sent from "Fencers" outbox.

29. Toukokuu 2005, 17:27:44
furbster 
huh?

29. Toukokuu 2005, 17:26:58
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: ?
Who sends tournament WINS to players that win games in your TOURNAMENTS

29. Toukokuu 2005, 14:49:00
Andre Faria 
Otsikko: Re:
Jules: Thank you Jules... :)

29. Toukokuu 2005, 11:18:29
Mort 
Congratulations to Andre Faria for winning Pond Life


29. Toukokuu 2005, 02:38:59
Stevie 
Otsikko: Re: Re:
Muokannut Stevie (29. Toukokuu 2005, 02:40:37)
THE HIT MAN: Rod was trying to help

28. Toukokuu 2005, 23:39:40
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Re:
rod03801: None now Rod Thanks for your concern.HAVE A GREAT DAY

28. Toukokuu 2005, 23:36:19
rod03801 
Ok, I'll try one more time... What Major problems with BK are you experiencing?

28. Toukokuu 2005, 23:34:21
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Re:
rod03801: HA HA lol I'am a little crazy But not MAD As far as my attitude its very positive Thank You. I understand you very well.But why are you not understanding me..he he lol

28. Toukokuu 2005, 23:22:53
rod03801 
LOL.. I'm not understanding your attitude, at all. I am a member of Brainking's customer service team. You mentioned "Major problems with BK", I asked what problem you have.
I'm not sure what you aren't understanding, and getting mad about.

28. Toukokuu 2005, 23:19:44
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Re:
rod03801: Umm Customer Service ? What are you selling

28. Toukokuu 2005, 23:04:04
rod03801 
Um, you posted on a public board. One where anyone can respond. I am not experiencing any "major problems with BK", I am also a member of customer service, so it certainly isn't out of line for me to ask what you are talking about.

28. Toukokuu 2005, 22:49:29
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Re:
rod03801: I don't think it concerns you Rod.Moderator your own board as fast.

28. Toukokuu 2005, 22:47:48
Purple 
Otsikko: Best Backgammon Player

28. Toukokuu 2005, 22:29:01
rod03801 
Major problems with BK?

28. Toukokuu 2005, 21:48:37
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: MY TOURNAMENTS
Due to magor problems with BK which has been going on for awhile.I am canceling all my up coming Tournaments.They will all be restarted.

28. Toukokuu 2005, 14:29:23
furbster 
i don't think you can andersp, im guessing they've been removd from tourneys upcoming!

28. Toukokuu 2005, 14:22:53
Andersp 
I didnt know that you can remove people after a tournament has started. Seems as a very strange behaviour to me.
Wondering if Pedro ever will get an answer about who is prolonging?

28. Toukokuu 2005, 11:18:27
Harassed 
Otsikko: Re: behaviour
Muokannut Harassed (28. Toukokuu 2005, 11:23:49)
EdTrice: Thanks, Ed. Feel free to correct any of my mistakes by PM. Of course, except obvious typos But beware, don't even try to write in my native language So far it's enough for me when I am able to write quite fast and most people don't have problems with understanding me. BTW, why "an" FYI? "F" doesnt look like a vowel for me, so I would expect "a". To be honest I didn't know abbreviations use articles ("a, an, the") Though sure OT again, may be there is some language purists board also

28. Toukokuu 2005, 11:11:56
Grim Reaper 
Otsikko: Re: behaviour
fungame: ...But it's strongly unpolite...

Just as an FYI, the word is impolite. Another one of those weird English words that does not fit the standard mold.

28. Toukokuu 2005, 04:27:25
NOT a floosie 
Discussing, questioning, and personal opinions on topics related to tournaments, I have no problems with. When the posts contain name calling and are personally attacking individuals it becomes off topic and they don't belong on the public boards, at least in my opinion.

28. Toukokuu 2005, 03:35:50
Pedro Martínez 
Otsikko: Re:
NOT a floosie: How is it off-topic? *shrugs*

28. Toukokuu 2005, 02:46:08
NOT a floosie 
Ok guys, let's keep it nice please.

28. Toukokuu 2005, 02:09:40
Harassed 
Muokannut Harassed (28. Toukokuu 2005, 02:11:08)
Yes, thanks for the compliment, too. Nice to be in group of gods But now you missed you offended all those who were allowed to stay there further. What about sending them some rude PM, too; "Welcome to the club of average people. I consider you stupid enough, so you are free to play in my tournament" (don't forget the CAPS key)

28. Toukokuu 2005, 02:08:10
Pedro Martínez 
Otsikko: Re: behaviour
Muokannut Pedro Martínez (28. Toukokuu 2005, 02:21:16)
THE HIT MAN: BTW, I would like to let you know that it's your turn in 226 games, while I'm up to move in 171 games...plus, why don't you move in the games the two of us are playing together?....now who's prolonging what?

28. Toukokuu 2005, 02:02:02
Pedro Martínez 
Otsikko: Re: behaviour
THE HIT MAN:

We all have problems of some kind.I have installed 4 new windows in my computer to keep all my games active.You have been a memeber here for a year and half.By what is said on your profile and your record.You seem to like winning more then losing.

I have no idea whatsoever why are you saying this.

I will not stand by and let ppl like this drag on games and prolong games for everone else in any of my Tournaments

People like this? Wake up, man!!! With this attitude, you're not going to gather many people for your other tourney...how many of us did you actually remove? I guess it must be some number, cuz if you removed me...

My tournaments are held to have fun and enjoy for the average Player

So I take it I'm not average enough...thanks, what a compliment...

28. Toukokuu 2005, 01:55:49
Harassed 
Otsikko: long tournaments
HIT MAN: Once again, the cure is simple. Make 1 day per move tournaments and noone can prolong them that much. Really simple and elegant solution.

28. Toukokuu 2005, 01:50:09
Harassed 
Otsikko: Re: behaviour
THE HIT MAN: well, you offended me, I don't take you away the right to remove anyone who you want to. But it's strongly unpolite to send someone a rude PM and then putting him into ignore list without letting him answer... And if the cause is I try to win then why did you try to camouflage that by that PM you sent me?

28. Toukokuu 2005, 01:47:38
Harassed 
Hmm and Pedro plays pretty fast I think, may be HIT MAN just doesn't want people who try to think and fight for win in those games and he wants only people acting like random moves generators where he would have some chance to beat them May be he should think about making prize tournaments in games like Mahajarah chess, where even a monkey could win after some training, of course with one color only

28. Toukokuu 2005, 01:44:58
THE HIT MAN 
Otsikko: Re: behaviour
Muokannut THE HIT MAN (28. Toukokuu 2005, 01:49:11)
fungame: We all have problems of some kind.I have installed 4 new windows in my computer to keep all my games active.You have been a memeber here for a year and half.By what is said on your profile and your record.You seem to like winning more then losing.I will not stand by and let ppl like this drag on games and prolong games for everone else in any of my Tournaments.So if you or anyone else has this thought of doing so will be removed from any of my up coming Tournaments.Also unfair play can remove you in my tournaments.If anybody does not like these Rules.Please do not enter them.My tournaments are held to have fun and enjoy for the average Player.I hope i haven't offended you or anyone else

28. Toukokuu 2005, 01:34:27
Pedro Martínez 
Muokannut Pedro Martínez (28. Toukokuu 2005, 06:36:49)
I have just noticed he removed me from the other tourney also...and placed me on his enemies list...probably by the same reason as in the fungame's case but he didn't even send me a PM...*shaking head*...many people at BK know that when they catch me on-line I usually play our games till completion, neglecting thus other games, usually the chess ones...I didn't know it could bother anyone...moreover, I've been so damn busy at work last couple of weeks that I couldn't play faster even if I wanted to...

27. Toukokuu 2005, 23:52:25
Harassed 
Otsikko: behaviour
It's very nice that certain people provide prize tournaments here and there. But I want to note that this doesnt give them a right to be rude.
I just experienced such behaviour. I play in certain tournament, I have some problems with connection lately and also I am shifting a bit the moves in my games where I have less experience and want to think about strategy in those first. It costs me vacation days, so it's ok in my point of view. And surely the time will come soon I will move faster in all my games.
But back to the thread. This certain person sent me a rude message in caps, citation 'ARE YOU GOING TO PLAY OR NOT'. Time of this message was 6:17 am my local time... Morning about 8:20 I saw this message and started to write a polite answer. But meanwhile this person, which was still logged on, put me to his ignore list, so when I pushed send button, it told me it's unable to send. And this person also removed me from other tournament of his, which has he full right for, but the remaining behaviour I find rude. And if he wants fast tournament, I see no problem to put that tourney f.e. 2 days per move. But I would consider polite if he wouldn't use caps and wait for an answer first before acting the way he did. May be someone from staff can talk with him or send him a message from me or something. I don't know, may be this board is not the right place but it certainly has something to do with tournaments...

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