playBunny: Totally disagree... waste of time. I will always resign in that situation regardless of opposition. If you're that worried about playing the last piece you are free to block me, in fact I encourage it.

grenv: It wastes your time to indulge someone and be polite, grenv? I think it shows disrespect and a lack of caring but if you want to be boorish about it that's your prerogative. Nobody can dictate how you value people here.

playBunny: I'll be as polite as you like, but I won't waste my time continuing a game that's already over. Not to mention it wastes my opponents time.

In fact it's boorish and impolite in my opinion to keep going, or to demand that others keep going in order to satisfy your own ridiculous need for moving the last pieces. Kind of like needing to have the last word... :)

grenv: Not to mention it wastes my opponents time

Lol, indeed not to mention it. Given that they get pleasure from the final move, it wouldn't be a waste of their time, it would be time well spent! It's a waste of your time because you derive no pleasure from indulging them. Indeed, it would seem that you fail to recognise their pleasure at all.

I'll be as polite as you like

If you knowingly resign when your opponent would like to finish then you're not being as polite as they'd like. In fact, to those for whom it's important enough to block a resigner, adding a FU smiley to the resignation move may not make that much difference!

Of course, to you, deriving pleasure from moving the last piece off is ridiculous enough, so people who value it that strongly can only be ridiculous squared in your eyes, and thus deserve all disrespect due them, right?

In fact it's boorish and impolite in my opinion to keep going,

If someone doesn't care either way and knows that you're impatient to move on but deliberately plays on just to spite you (and not for some other reason like not really understand the resigning system or being sure that they can trust it) then, I'd agree, they'd be the ones being rude to you. Of course most times it'll be because people aren't aware of your preference or didn't think in time before they hit roll. Resigning is a more deliberate action so it's perhaps less likely to be done accidentally/unthinkingly.

to demand that others keep going in order to satisfy your own ridiculous need

There's a difference between someone expressing their preference and you denying them that pleasure, and someone demanding it. Making demands is rude but surely a knowing denial is rude, too?

Kind of like needing to have the last word... :)

Maybe. It depends on what need it serves. Getting the last word is probably** more a competitive thing wanting to take the last piece off is probably more a completion thing. Like putting the final piece in a jigsaw before breaking it up and putting it in the box, it's logically unnecessary but it has a tangible psychological value.

**I say "probably competitive" with regard to getting te last word because I've played people who like to get the last word because it feels rude to them not to respond. With two such people they can go on doing smileys at each other for ages! Eventually one gets up enough courage to be "rude".

playBunny: Like putting the final piece in a jigsaw before breaking it up and putting it in the box, it's logically unnecessary but it has a tangible psychological value.

Poor example....

A puzzle is not completed or finished until the last piece is in place, but a backgammon game is completed or finished as soon as someone wins it, not when the last checker is removed.

not Indulging someone to derive pleasure from a meaningless activity is not rude.

Winning is the ultimate objective to any game. Most games are finished when the outcome is decided.

Anyone who is interested in getting pleasure from removing checkers in a meaningless game can play games that do not count and are not rated, otherwise it should be assumed that one is playing to get pleasure from winning.

Czuch Czuckers: I've got a good analogy. it's like wanting to play another move in chess after checkmate, just so you can derive the pleasure of capturing the king. :)

grenv: I dont really care where someone else derives their pleasure from.

But when you derive pleasure from making moves in a meaningless game, it doesnt matter to anyone else but yourself, and should not supersede the one and only purpose for playing a rated game.

Czuch Czuckers:  It's rare to see so many unfounded assumptions built into such a short post, I congratulate you!

alanback: Well then, tell me what the purpose for playing rated games are?

Czuch Czuckers: To me its more bad etiquette to continue a lost game than to say "congrats" and then resign it.

Andersp: I guess that not too many people will disagree with you.

But if someone asks me too continue a game and to not resign, even though I have already lost, well I might do it, but I cant honestly see that ever happening.

Andersp:  I've always thought it was bad manners to drag out a game that was mathematically lost.  But of course, if an opponent asks me to let the game finish, I will.

Etiquette, after all, is just a default set of rules to follow until you understand each other well enough to know what will offend and what will not.  It's not a substitute for friendship, but just something to smooth the path while friendship and camaraderie develop.

alanback: if an opponent asks me to let the game finish, I will.

You could also remind them that the game already is finished.

Andersp: But what if you knew that your opponent likes to finish by taking all the pieces off? Is it rude to resign despite that?

Andersp: I notice that you didn't answer my question. Would you care to do so? Your own can then receive due attention.

playBunny: Even if i knew that my opponent prefers to click til the board is empty i would say "Congrats good game" asnd resign...is that an answer to your question?.   And i dont consider it rude...the game is over so why go on clicking?

Andersp: the game is over so why go on clicking?

Because they want you to, and because they may become upset if you dont!

Andersp: Would your opponent think it rude?

playBunny: Dont think so

Andersp: If you do something against the wishes of another it's very convenient to imagine that they won't take offence. Very convenient indeed.

Andersp: do you think its a good idea that we ask Fencer if he can give us an option to add a "dont resign mark" to our nickname?

Asking Fencer for anything to do with backgammon is a long and hard struggle. In this instance we can ask as long as it "we" means Andersp!

....i've rsigned many games and no one has complained so why should i think that they are offended?

For you there's every reason to think that not one of them is even the slightest bit offended, ever. That even includes the ones who you know, for a fact, would prefer to play on (they being the ones that we've been discussing).

playBunny: There is only one (1) person on BK i know who wants to continue playing and she is sitting behind me LOL

playBunny: Answer this then.... Do you think it is rude for someone to use their whole allotted time limit for every move in a game, even if they have the ability to play them faster? What if I asked them to play faster because I prefer it? Does that make a difference? If they are asked and still refuse, would you defend my right to get upset about it?

Czuch Czuckers: Answer this then.... Do you think ...

Nope, I won't answer that then or even now. It's a whole new topic. Repost it tomorrow.

playBunny: Thank you, I was beginning to think you had blocked me

Andersp: To me its more rude to not accept a friendly invitation on a gamesite

Really? You feel obliged to play any game that someone sends an friendly invitation for, regardless of whether you want to play that kind of game or not??

playBunny: Oh im sorry i misunderstood...so you accept a friendly invitation for backgammon?  think you should add that to your profile