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Sujet: cant play 20 games

does any one have an explination to why i can only play 19 games at a time i have 19 games running no invitations and im not in any stairs but when i try to start a new game it wont let me couse it says i am full but the main page says im playing 19 with one open spot?????????????????

14. Janvier 2007, 20:30:19

Do the rankings of a new game get put up automatically after so many games or whatever? i noticed that chevresi doesnt show any?

14. Janvier 2007, 19:56:30

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

MadMonkey: You could aslo turn the things around in

Ambigious Dice Chess...

Whats that? Each time, mark a field where to play, but you can only mark an ambigious field ( where 2 or more pieces can go), then randomize which piece to go.

14. Janvier 2007, 12:07:29

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

modifié par MadMonkey (14. Janvier 2007, 12:09:07)

Hieronymus: The idea of a new variant has been proved with Assimilation (was called Ataxx when released). When the Ataxx rule of a knight move was introduced Fencer released a new version called Ataxx, and the old version of Ataxx was called Assimilation.

As i mentioned, most people prefer the Assimilation version, so even by introducing the proper rules to a game like Ataxx, does not mean people will prefer that version, even if it is the proper one.
The games of Dice Chess is still new, so its a good time to do it.

As for explaining the rule difference, good question, i would ask BBW to write it, he is good with words

14. Janvier 2007, 11:58:27

ghardh

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

MadMonkey: I have noticed the same annoying necessary to move the king. And just that detail is the reason for my voting to change the rules. A new variant will lead sooner or later to a situation, that the old variant wouldn't be played anymore.
Btw., how would you explain the differences between the two variants to the average player?

14. Janvier 2007, 11:51:33

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

Hieronymus: Of course the probabilities would change as pieces are taken, as in Chess, if 2 Pawns are taken, odds are 6-1.

Its has to be new, i think the change is alot. I have played alot of games of it now, and one thing that crops up alot is having to move your King for no reason, just because the Kings pawn square is free for example. At least with an odds change, the chances of things like that happening are not evens LOL
You may say small, but there was only a small change in Ataxx & Assimilation, but from experience i know most people prefer Assimilation.

14. Janvier 2007, 11:45:29

ghardh

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

modifié par ghardh (14. Janvier 2007, 11:46:38)

MadMonkey: How should the probabilities be affected, if there are already pieces captured? I think, if there are e.g. 2 pawns captured, there should be a ratio of 6:1 instead of 8:1.
And why this should be a new game? The changes would be minor enough (most players wouldn't notice them), that they should affect the current version.

14. Janvier 2007, 11:37:50

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

'Percentile Dice Chess' or just 'Percentile Chess' there you go Fencer, an instant new game, and you only have to change the code slightly

14. Janvier 2007, 11:34:40

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

Marfitalu: Ok, when the dice shows 4.

14. Janvier 2007, 11:32:48

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

MadMonkey: Yes, en passant could be played also ( on a 1), I think you should castle also on a 4.

14. Janvier 2007, 11:29:31

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

Hieronymus: Thats exactly what i mean

Yes you can castle & Kings can capture Kings, havent tried en passant yet

14. Janvier 2007, 11:27:31

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

joshi tm: Like you say, the odds would be normal Chess odds as such, as in which actual piece may move. In other words, if you had advanced your king pawn, the odds would would be 8-1 they you would have to move the King, where as now its evens.

The game would be totaly different, call 'Dice Chess the Revenge of the 16 sided percentile dice'

or 'Percentile Dice Chess'

percentile, love that word danheg LOL

14. Janvier 2007, 11:26:05

ghardh

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

MadMonkey: It's not necessary, to have a more-than-6-sided die, but, I think, it would be a good idea, to have the probabilities weighted this way. That means, it would be 8 times more probable to roll a "1" than a "6", and 2 times more probable to roll a "2", "3" or "4" than "5" or "6". What do you think?

Another question according this game: Is it possible to castle or to capture en passant, if the die and the usual chess rules allow it?

14. Janvier 2007, 10:12:48

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

danheg: It would be cool, even odds, but that would be whole other gamplay.

14. Janvier 2007, 09:25:26

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

MadMonkey: Ah, I see. The code is generated only in 1-6 range.

14. Janvier 2007, 02:05:17

danheg

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

Fencer: Roleplaying games such as Dungeons and Dragons, Marvel superheroes, and etc. use 4 sided, 10 sided , 20 sided, percentile dice, and etc. It wouldn't be impossible.

14. Janvier 2007, 00:09:06

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

MadMonkey: But then you would have a 16 sided dice. Could be cool for a variant of course, but not to replace the rules, cause these are fine this way.

14. Janvier 2007, 00:01:30

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

modifié par MadMonkey (14. Janvier 2007, 00:08:26)

Fencer: It can, BUT a computer can pick and Random number between 2 points, as in 1 & 16 at the start of a game.

If it picked a number between :
1 and 8 = 1 Pawn
out of 9 & 10 = 2 Knight
out of 11 & 12 = 3 Bishop
out of 13 & 14 = 4 Rook
a 15 = 5 Queen
or 16 = 6 King

In other words your chances of moving a pawn are greatly increased at the start, and most the way through the game. It would make for a totaly different game. I thought the 1 to 6 way was the way it was happening

But then if you did it that way, could not really be called Dice Chess, but could be another version (Dice Chess 2), at least the maths percentage would be right LOL

13. Janvier 2007, 23:51:52

Sujet: Re: Dice Chess

MadMonkey: How can a normal die show other number than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6?

13. Janvier 2007, 23:25:49

Sujet: Dice Chess

Fencer: Just a interesting question i thought. In Dice Chess, does the code generate a random number when picking which piece to move either:

Between 1 and 6

Or

Between 1 and 16 (or all possible pieces available to a player)

13. Janvier 2007, 09:50:49

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ScarletRose: Never heard of infinite loops?

13. Janvier 2007, 08:46:57

ScarletRose

I keep getting bumped off the site.. and I only have not even 2 hours to finish a tourney game against my mom.. I have already timed on 3 games today.. argghhh..

12. Janvier 2007, 06:54:58

Papa Zoom

Sujet: Re: Fencer

"Snoopy": NO

Two games

12. Janvier 2007, 06:54:13

Sujet: Re: Fencer

Gr☺uch☺: oh did i win a game against you..lol

12. Janvier 2007, 02:03:56

Papa Zoom

Sujet: Fencer

Could you please reset two of my Dice Chess games against Snoopy where I lost? Can you reset them so I win?

I hate losing.

I love that game!

11. Janvier 2007, 22:45:03

Sujet: Re:

MadMonkey: Yes.

11. Janvier 2007, 22:42:57

Fencer: Could you please reset Cheversi game No.2202041

Same problem

11. Janvier 2007, 16:40:24

Sujet: Re:

modifié par ScrambledEggs (11. Janvier 2007, 16:53:30)

Fencer: this one was in the same tournament as madmonkeys could it be restarted also please
Cheversi ("Snoopy" vs. fanciann)

11. Janvier 2007, 15:40:39

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Pedro Martínez: Whoops! Got my pieces mixed up! NEVERMIND!

11. Janvier 2007, 15:39:02

toedder

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Fencer: Ehm, is this the same situation like in my game Cheversi (Ugo vs. Gordon Shumway) ?

11. Janvier 2007, 15:38:26

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Czuch Czuckers: No. 2 points.

11. Janvier 2007, 15:36:55

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BIG BAD WOLF: isnt a knight placed in a corner worth 14 points?

11. Janvier 2007, 15:24:28

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Fencer: Thankyou

I love the game, not as much as Dice Chess, now thats addictive

11. Janvier 2007, 15:22:00

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MadMonkey: It was started a while after midnight where some final bugfixing was made. The move has been cancelled.

11. Janvier 2007, 15:17:12

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Fencer: My game 2203836 was.
My opponent started with a Knight (not a king), now its forcing me to play my Queen, thats not what the rules say. Thats why i would like it restarted.

11. Janvier 2007, 15:14:57

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Czuch Czuckers: No games started by old rules are switched mid stream.

11. Janvier 2007, 15:13:37

coan.net

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MadMonkey: what is the difference if your opponenet uses the king or knight first? both give 8 points, and both you can't block any of those 8 points - so no matter if white started with king or knight, it should be the same or very close to the same.

As a side note, I've played with the king-queen rule in 3 test games, and I was still able to win all 3 games as black. (just a lot closer) Of course there are a few other rules on how spaces are counted that was not in place at that time.

11. Janvier 2007, 14:31:07

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"Snoopy": Its even worse when a game starts by old rules, then switches mid stream... fencer will probabl6y have to delete the whole tournament?

11. Janvier 2007, 14:26:38

Fencer: Could you just restart the game for me please so we are both using the same rules

11. Janvier 2007, 14:24:09

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"Snoopy": That sux

11. Janvier 2007, 14:23:18

Sujet: Re:

modifié par ScrambledEggs (11. Janvier 2007, 14:26:01)

Czuch Czuckers: you cant delete tournament games
and as far as i can see half the games in the tournament will be played by the old rules and the rest with the new ones!!!!

11. Janvier 2007, 14:22:04

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MadMonkey: Just delete the game! The rules should have only effected new games started after the 11th, some bug, I guess.

11. Janvier 2007, 14:20:58

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Pedro Martínez: Of course it is, Blacks Queen will now get blocked in, hence the idea of taking away Blacks advantage, now WQhite has a major one. I would not mind if White had been forced to use the King first like the Rules state, but i dont think changing game rules during a game is right.

11. Janvier 2007, 14:17:28

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MadMonkey: Yes, that is right...even though I don't think the advantage of the white is that major...if any at all...

11. Janvier 2007, 14:15:57

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Pedro Martínez: So the game started using old rules, and now uses new rules.

Is that right ? Certainly not fair, so now white has major advantage

11. Janvier 2007, 14:11:00

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MadMonkey: Yes, I know...this rule took effect on the 11th of January...read this:
http://brainking.com/en/News?tp=93

11. Janvier 2007, 14:08:34

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Pedro Martínez: But my opponent had not placed a White King, he put a Knight.

11. Janvier 2007, 14:05:10

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MadMonkey: Rules: "In order to eliminate an advantage of black player, a game must be started by placing a white king, followed by placing a black queen."

11. Janvier 2007, 14:03:24

Fencer: Why in my Cheversi game 2203836 will it only let me place the Queen on the board and nothing else ?

11. Janvier 2007, 14:00:40