playBunny: lol. how much money did you pay? a pawn is also a registered account dear. yes you only get 50 points for it but its still better then 6 points.

02i: Then I'm not sure I understand what the problem is with someone creating 100 accounts and referring to themself - 100 subscriptions is a lot of money to pay for some points in a competition! Or are you talking about something else?

pawnme: well , there can be provisions for that too. people who share the computer can say that they do and then they can have their accounts separate but registered as a family or friends or group or whatever and not be allowed to refer one another or play against each other to prevent giving more than normal points or wins to someone. and playbunny i am talking about new registered accounts not guest visits.

playBunny: Ghostie postie

02i: Points for referrals work in the same way as Brains - only for new Members, not guest accounts.

02i: but.... (to play Devil's advocate) what if there were 2 or more people playing from the same computer, let's say at a college dorm or even from a family computer. Should a family only be limitted to one account?

Vikings: as far as your explanation goes , maybe thats it but that matter can only be resolved if the site is modigfied in a way that only one page of brainking can be opened at a time from 1 computer and if that can be done , it would also solve the problem of people having multiple accounts thats is if the coputer id is stored for each new account registered , that sort of thing is present on other sites like iyt.com where you can only create 1 new account from a computer. uptil now we are talking about illegal points from discussion boards but whats to stop someone from reistering 100 new accounts everyday from his computer and referring him/herself for all of them and right now there is no way of checking in as to who is legit and who is not.

pawnme: Give it a whirl and let us know if it works.

02i: You need to reverse the order so it displays the pages from oldest to newest.

pawnme: i dont think the pages matter like i said. i had 2000 new messages and they were on maybe 50 pages but as soon as i open 1 page they all stop appearing to be new ...even the ones on the next 49 pages.

LionsLair: ur no. 9 now

LionsLair: ...now I'm at #8...lmao...

... not that I think I deserve it, as I've only earned 7 points from moves, but I opened every available message I could and I have 823 points... most messages I couldn't even read as my language skills are limited to english and broken spanish :o)
... just to show there is a slight flaw with this theory of "board points"

pawnme: nope

Hmmmm, I wonder if I just received points for editing my post - lol

5 is the minimum, mine is set for 50

02i: If you set your page to only display a certain amount of messages (I can't remember how low you can go) then you can review each page separatly, rather then having all your messages on one page. You may have 100 pages to review (equaling 600 points), and that is just for one board. You may even have more then 100 pages to review! I guess you would have to view them from oldest message to newest message and set the display to a minimum. As for me, mines set for the max and I only view the newest messages because I can't be bothered to go back 3 years in time to review old messages (or at least bring the page up).

Vikings: But aren't the messages marked as read when the first window opens?

02i: if you open up multiple windows, you can read all messages once for each window

Vikings: so either i didnt understand or execute it properly or thats not it.

i read ur theory about opening 5 messages per page and opening last messages first ...it didnt work for me ...

what you mean?

02i: he used multiple pages

but i have no clue how luisifer got 10000 or lamer 3000 ...theres something else they are doing that is unknown to the rest of us.

whopper:ok, so I read it, play a few game moves, see more "new" messages, read them and get 6 every time I view a "new" message? seems fishy to me if someone hovers the discussion boards waiting for new messages... as many do waiting for an opponent to move...

...as long as there is atleast 1 new message ... not if i visit every time a new message appears , i get 6 points for every one but if i visit after 12 hours with 10 new messages , i still only get 6 points for all 10 instead of 60 points.

LionsLair: actually your theory was total opposite of whats true. someone like me who never reads has 2000 unread messages but after i open page i only get 6 points for all but if im a regualar , i get 6 points every time i `visit

LionsLair: You get 6 new points for reading this, since it's new. If someone else has replied as well since you last visited this board, you still get only 6 points.

02i:
..ok, so that threw that theory out the window, but I just got 6 points for reading vikings message, then went to main page, checked online opponents, saw a new message in my fav boards area(this one I am replying to, and got another 6 points... so as well as making available moves it looks like it pays to read every "new" message that hits the discussion boards... correct me if I'm wrong...

02i: You're right. Whatever Luisifer's trick was he was doing it with this board, which has only 20 messages! ;-)

ive had many unread messages as i dont regularly read messages but when i open page with 2000 new messages , i still only get 6 points for all on the page or next so i dont think that this flaw is present or if it is theres another trick to it and not just having lots of unead messages.

LionsLair: it's only a flaw if people set it up to be. otherwise they would only get 6 points no matter how many messages there are on the board.
by the way, I'm setting the over-under at 200,000

...nothing scientific here, but it seems all top action points winners at this point have gotten the bulk of their points from board points...
... the flaw with this is that someone that reads boards regularly is at a disadvantage, as they may only have say 10 "new" messages to read on the "brainking.com" board, and a user that never has read the board has 18,000+ "new" messages to read... thus creating a very large margin of points for such...
...is this a scam or cheating?... no, just a minor flaw in the tallying system for said "action Points"...
...I'm sure Fencer will fix this problem...
...just my two cents worth... as always, "happy Gaming!" >^.^<

BIG BAD WOLF: i agree - not something to worry about - fencer is not likely to let people abuse him like some are trying to do....

nightmagic: My actually reason for posted at all was to make sure others who were worried about a scam, or possible others worried about cheating (or wanting to cheat themselves) would probable most likely be fixed by Fencer the next time he is on - I never meant to get so worked up about it but just started to answer posts which made it seem like I'm the one worried about it, but like I said - I'm not worried about it since Fencer will probable clear it all up in due time.

BIG BAD WOLF: all can have my points,lol. i just popped in to see how it all was going with point grabbers,lol.and what there saying about how 2 and how not 2. going to be interesting to see people sleeping points. jobs lost cause they are collecting points.appointments missed cause they fell asleep getting points.lol

Vikings:

it's simple, set messages per page to minimum and set it to read oldest messages first, I had over 4,000 messages alone in flame pit, that would have added up to quite a lot

BIG BAD WOLF: Well, congrats on the successful move anyway!!!!

Czuch Czuckers: Yup, I should be moving more now that I'm just about done moving to my new house - but I'm sure I will not be near the top... I still don't have that much free time.

It will be interesting to watch BBW play more moves per day than he has since he tried for the top of the most moves per day average!

Luisifer: LOL, BBW is very competative, and he is likely upset that he didnt find it first, and the fact that he still doesnt know....

Luisifer: Lol. We say "get out of bed on the wrong side". ;-) I reckon you've sounded so serious that BBW hasn't realised that you're having fun with this trick that you've found. ;o) 10,000 points?!! Wow, that's a lot of "reading", lolol.

BIG BAD WOLF: did you wake up by left leg? :)) take it easy

Luisifer: You can try to justfy it all you want, but to purposly do something to gain more point, even though it is not written or programmed correctly to stop you from doing so is unfair to everyone else who plays how this system is suppose to be played. I'm sure Fencer will take care of the issue, and hopefully either remove all points and/or ban people from the point system if he feels that is needed.

BIG BAD WOLF: only couple of days you cant stop the spam

BIG BAD WOLF: When You look to rules, You will see that you recieve more points when You will read than when You will play....
So ... I am reading for recieve more points. :-)

Hey, I just found something new - in the fellowships, you now have the option to check or uncheck "Receive group messages from the Big Boss"

This is great! I've quit fellowships where the BIG BOSS would send too many messages for my taste.

hum... I wonder how long that option was there.....

Luisifer: reading the boards to read post is fine, but it sounds like you are reading post to purposly gain more points. See, there is a difference.

BIG BAD WOLF: What is bad on the reading (which i am doing)? :)
points unpoints ... i read ... when someone fix this way of reading (and summing the points) it'll be fixed (not hidden for someone else)
(it's main thing of betatesting :) )

whopper: so, they will :) and jep, i found :-)