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As a sidenote, I also thought that an ignore button would be helpful for the future maintenance of a civil site. But I have sadly changed my mind. An ignore button would still mean that I play at a site with the aforementioned boards, and that just is not gonna happen. So, have to agree with a few, it will be interesting to see how all this plays out, my best wishes and full bets lie with Fencer.
<actually I agree that envisoning the future of bk boards like them
of IYT is frosting ... all those people who know exactly who is so
bad for a site and are so concerned about. btw those too who cannot
stay to a subject without winding up to inessential personal attacks as
it recently also happened here, at the feature-request board ... >:) ... ~*~
I think Fencer has done a pretty good job of addressing all these problems. But because of an assortment of people, very much in the minority at this point in this sites history, and a strong desire of a good gaming site, this site, in my humble opinion, is in trouble. And anyone that may disagree, please go read the general chat site at IYT and envision the future here if something is not done about that problem alone. Why do you all automatically suppose that Fencer and Liquid wish to continue to deal with that problem and continue to provide a free gaming environment on their own. And nothing comes for free, unless money is being made in another place to cover it.
One thing is probably for sure: Fencer IS addressing the problems the site has experienced and IS taking action to correct these problems. Who knows all the things he and Liquid are doing behind the scenes. Fencer KNOWS about the complaints. He's probably tired like the rest of us hearing people offer the same complaint over and over. Just chill out and eventually things will get better and better. For the most part, I get on this site most times I try. If it's down, it's down. It's not my life and I can do other things and come back later. I suspect this is what most do.
I think Fencer was right on with his comments and from the responses I read, so did a lot of others here. Harley is right, this site is better than any other, even with its problems.
tonyh
yes i get terrible problems too some times worse than others i do have highspeed connections , yesterday i managed over 600 moves ( i was on here for 20 hours) if there was no problems with the site i would have easily done 1500 moves ,
ps some days i dont sit here and wait for it to come back on and do only a few moves (i find something else to do ;)) . )
Rouge--- I must agree with you,,I played here as a pawn until I got "Hooked" on the site,,,I enjoy this site so much,,,I sent in my membership fee to "Help" me play my games better & easier... If you enjoy playing here,,,send in your "measley" membership fee & feel good about helping to support the site... :)
Hi Tony :o)
This has been said before, and for players with hi speed broadband connections its possible to get through a huge amount of games in a very short space of time. Especially for games that need little consideration like backgammon and battleboats.
linjon : Fencer is no less human than anyone else. I will not speak for him, but obviously he knows the status quo here, so what's the point of these complaints? It is interesting to note that the vast majority of those who say they will not become a paying member because of access don't consider it a big enough problem to quit coming here.
I'm sure Fencer is working hard on the problems here. I didn't say he wasn't and I have read the info page.And I'm also sure he does get tired of the complaints.But the fact remains the good comes along with the bad in business and regardless of how mad or frustrated he may get at the complaints,it is still no excuse for rudeness and surely like I said not a way to win new customers...I'm sure it's frustrating to all not to be able to get to the site along with the other problems for both paying and non paying customers...
linjon, Fencer answers many messages every day about the accessability of this site and other complaints. I don't think its very surprising he gets fed up answering the same gripes day in day out.
He set up another page (BrainKing.info) to explain to everyone why the site is having these problems and all the answers are here. There is a link to this site on the main page, it answers all questions and he cannot say any more than what is here for all to read.
The problems here are being addressed, and a new server will be provided very soon, it is just a matter of time before you will be able to access this site first try, every time.
Fencer IS interested in what people say, he takes note of all suggestions posted on the feature request board, and where possible he implements them. I personally have never met a site owner who listens more than Fencer, and if he gets fed up with complaints about things he has explained time and time again then I really don't blame him. If you have a complaint about access and want personal attention about it them email me, I will do my best to explain and will listen and sympathise with all problems. I have the time to do this, Fencer does not.
One last thing, I strongly disagree, this site is way better than any other!! ;o)
I'm sure Fencer listens to criticism - as long as it's constructive. Whining never did anybody any good (ask my eldest daughter!) and just causes irritation and annoyance. It doesn't solve anything.
This may not be the board to post gripes,But I read what Sir Pussycat said and your answer Fencer and if I post on another board you may not know what I'm talking about...Your comment was rude and uncalled for and I feel was aimed solely for him being a non paying member.But, his statement is true. Why pay for poor quality service? Being in business,surely you should realize,along with the happy customers or should we say tolerent customers also comes dissatisfied ones also.Sir pussycat did say his wife was a paying member and he is a potential customer...Your remarks sure are not a way of winning customers,and if we all had the answers to the problems,don't you think we might be running our own game site.People gripe at poor service at just about anywhere,resturants you name it.What makes this immune? And I know if you don't like the service move on. This is a good site.But it does have it's problems and he has a right to say so and you should be interested in what people think,even if it's not patting you on the back as so many have done.Like I said it's a good site but not any better then any other.This is just my opinion
that's an expression after facing numerous, seemingly chained events ... :")
I doubt though that it's valid to let it cumulate in an impression, paid
members are having an advantage at stalling games for what purpose ever,
although I don't know shaggath, someone who's won 50 tourneys already,
seems very unlikely depending on stalling to keep high ratings ... ;)
I admit, also I sometimes use a certain timing to have a slight influence on
my lost points ... i.e. first I lose a couple of inevitably gone games, then I
finish all wins of the same game-type that I might have delayed a bit before.
>:) results in minimally lesser losses in my ratings ... :D
indeed 2 months for 10 moves is slow.
but actually cAn happen during holiday time.
for moving each day preferably I do agree as well,
but if my opponent has more than 120 games I don't expect it.
I suggest avoiding tournaments with a timerange of more than 3 days
refering to your preferences as I understood them ... good luck ... :) ~*~
I don't want to attack anyone or cause a flame war but I feel I must do this. I recently finished a 2 game Line4 match with an unnamed player that started on June 19. The first game, a win for me, was completed June 19. The second game lasted until August 24, ending in a timeout by the other player. The game had a 5 day limit and only lasted 10 moves yet it took over 2 months. I make my moves when I get them and always move within 24 hours of my opponent's move. The reason this game lasted so long is vacation. Other player used many vacation days, at least 15, and I ask is it right that players who pay more can stall losses to keep high ratings and rankings with their 30! vacation days? Nothing against the other player as she has a lot of games at a time and she's not the only one who does this. Also, there's a bug in the game history in the profiles. It is showing the date of the first game's completion not the match completion.
Sir Pussycat, you could try general chat, you are free to post what you like there (within reason of course!). It isn't specifically FOR gripes, but I suppose if you feel you must post on this subject, then that would be the place.
You said this is not the place to air Gripes. Which DB is for gripes? I feel all people who use this site should be aware of or have available to them the feelings of others here. =^..^=
Sir Pussycat, I won't delete your messages this time because then Fencers reply would stand alone, but really complaining will do no good.
We're all aware of the problems here, we all experience them and everything possible is being done to sort them out. More information on this can be found at the BrainKing.info site, where you can also find my email address. Feel free to message me privately with any gripes and I will lend a sympathetic ear. But this isn't the place. Thank you :o)
And what do you think that happens after another useless post like this one of yours? The servers will automatically start working faster? An unexpected load of money will appear on my bank account and I'll be able to buy new machines?
I don't like complaints without suggested solutions. Especially from non-paying members.
How many people do you think will pay to get in this site in the shape it is in at this time? Hard to get into and hard to stay in. My wife is a paid member, and I was going to buy in, but not now, where i have to try 5 or 6 times before I can get in.=^..^=
Nothing is wrong with the graphics :)
LOLOL
She manages to see all the boats to easy....I want a pair of them glasses she said you gave her......JOKING :)
Manicotti Molly has told me that when she paid her membership you gave her a special pair of glasses so that she could see the boats in the battleboats games HAHAHAHAHAHA....well I want some cause she is just too darn good LOLOLOL
Yes there do seem to be a few more problems the last few days. I keep getting a 'timed out' message or the 'full to capacity' message.
But patience is the key, I hit refresh a few times and I get back in. Stick with it, these bugs will hopefully be ironed out soon :o)
I have been having probs for days,,,i try to get in & I get a blank screen,,,I finally get in & play 1 game,,,& it happens again,,,I fought to get on, all day yesterday...I got on sporatically (sp.)... :)
I have different problems with this site constantly. I am trying to be calm, and just work my way through it. It is my opinion that Fencer needs to limit new people comming to this site to paying members only until he can iron out the bugs and get the site to where it can handle the current load.
bernice is was terrible for me yesterday on and off like a yoyo ,,
we have two pcs set up here one down stairs & one upstairs and sometimes i cant get on but judd(upstairs) gets no problems
I am having terrible terrible>/b> problems accessing here....is it just me??? I think not....I have deleted anything that hasnt got anything to do with this game site and Im having probs...Im sad :(
i changed my layout to columns. and all my boards on the games are smaller, i tried changing the size and it's still so different. i like the columns on the sides, it's easier to see everything, can i do anything to keep them the way they were, without changing back.
thx. ellie
ok does it hide them permanantly ? i just tried it and they are hidden
(a) can i get them back ?
(b) can the (hidden ) persons messages show up in the future ?
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