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I'm not sure that the speed of the site is the bigger issue here. My guess is that it is absolute rudeness to the people that have supported this site through the years so that it could grow and become the place that it is.

And, I'd like to give a big thank you to Fencer for finally acknowledging in his blog, the fact that the Globals and Moderators are, and have been a big part of making this site what it is. It's nice to finally be recognized.

7. Janvier 2008, 04:19:24

rod03801

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Rose: If it is not a Brainking problem, what is supposed to be done about it??? (And if it IS a Brainking problem, I'd still like to know why it doesn't affect everyone. other than a little minor slowness at times, the site is working ok for me, and I'm on THIS side of the pond too)

7. Janvier 2008, 04:12:42

Rose

I guess what it all boils down to is the fact as long as it works for certain people and they keep paying then there is no problem. Albeit the 400 (guesstimate) or so on this side of the pond who were the first loyal yearly supporters of the site 5 or so years ago before there were more than a handful of European supporters have an issue with slowness now, that we never had before. wel that is just our tuff luck. Or am I reading this wrong? Too damn bad is how I see/read it. (Yes, i am customer #156 who joined here when the majority of payments came from North America.)

I do think being nasty to customers is any way to deal with it. If I did that in my business I wouldn't be in business for very long.

BUT like any thing else in life. If a person isn't satisfied with the service the option is to stop paying for the service and get better service elsewhere. It is what makes or breaks businesses.

7. Janvier 2008, 04:11:32

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Eriisa: I had 30 hops and got stuck in New York for an extra bit of time. It took more than a full second to trace thru the second New York server.

7. Janvier 2008, 04:07:25

Each line that displays is the path on the internet that my signal goes to brainking. (kinda like dot to dot).

uh, if that makes sense. lol

7. Janvier 2008, 04:06:03

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srnity: yep

Click on Start
Click on Run
Type cmd (in the window)
A black box will open up. This is called a DOS window. At the cursor type in tracert brainking.com and hit enter.

7. Janvier 2008, 04:01:02

srnity

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Eriisa: I'm an idiot - can you explain how to figure that out again?

7. Janvier 2008, 03:58:52

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Gordon Shumway: my god, I had 25 hops!

7. Janvier 2008, 03:48:37

ScarletRose

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Gordon Shumway: Well.. I too have the problem with slower page loads.. not sure whose fault it is.. although, I know with all the cutsie stuff that is continually added.. it seems to slow my pages even more.. and yes.. I went ahead and refigured some of the things in my settings pages.. I pay for a high speed connection.. I pay 43 dollars a month.. which is about 3 times more than just dial up.. I expect my pages to load a bit more quickly.. which at BK.. it feels as though I am on dial up again..

Hey! I know.. it's a conspiracy against the US and countries similar.. LOL

Furthermore, I do have one observation I would like to state.. My family has been in business now for almost 20 years.. we have both motel and cafe.. Usually we try to be polite to our customers .. for if we continued to be sarcastic to them.. we wouldn't have them support us anymore.. Is the practice of being polite limited to just a few countries?? Is where Fencer lives a country that continually belittles peeps and down talks them like they are idiots.. Please let us know now.. so we can happily spread the cheer to all the newbies so they don't waste their hard earned dollars.. unless of course they are from Fencers neck of the woods where that behavior is acceptible..

Or perhaps it is his style of life since he is still a young man in mid 30's.. similar to the immature boys over here.. is Fencer also immature?? I wouldn't expect so since he is the master of websites.. and since he has a child I would expect he also knew what patience was...

7. Janvier 2008, 03:41:13

Sujet: Re:I just don't know if cheeky posts are the fastest way to get it

Gordon Shumway: I know that nothing I say is going to hold any weight because I don't

Cheeky, rude, disrespectful, baiting.......etc. I am only following the example set by the site owner.

BTW: Thanks for the tip. I will check my settings.

7. Janvier 2008, 03:22:14

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srnity: I can tell you how to get on the "certain users" list!

7. Janvier 2008, 01:55:59

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Eriisa: On windows, open a DOS box and type tracert brainking.com. You'll experience a timeout though, after the IP address 212.23.50.58. That timeout is the BrainKing server. It doesn't answer to ICMP traffic, so it gives you a timeout. Thus you can't use it for time measurements, but you can see the route.

7. Janvier 2008, 01:51:04

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Gordon Shumway: how do you do the hop thing? I think it would be interesting to test it at different times and locations.

I rarely have trbl, but did yesterday. Like you, I agree that its the nodes and networks along the way.

7. Janvier 2008, 01:50:38

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Jim Dandy: The problem is - you can't tell that unless you actually are in that area. And it isn't usually area specific. I am on ADSL 3000, but I could easily have the idea to switch to Modem or ISDN or whatever slow connection. Or I could have the same basic connection speed, but maybe my ISP has speed problems in my area from time to time, or let's too many people share bandwidth, or whatever... There are quite a couple of possible reasons for a slow connection to a specific site, and you can't tell unless you try.

7. Janvier 2008, 01:48:45

srnity

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Jim Dandy: Maybe if we level off some mountain ranges, knock down (or build up?) some cellphone towers, get rid of those annoying wind-turbine thingees, and somehow calm the Atlantic Ocean just a tad.....

7. Janvier 2008, 01:47:07

rod03801

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

MadMonkey: I noticed something similar with Alquerque and Jarmo boards as well. Every so often the site has been a bit slower, but not very much.

I wish someone knew the answer why it is only a problem for some people. I think knowing that answer would help a lot of people.

It makes sense that it isn't specifically a brainking problem, since not everyone is experiencing the same thing. To me, if it were, everyone would be having the exact same problems. (Or it makes sense to ME anyways.. lol)

I WOULD say that over the last couple of days, it is probably the more graphic intensive pages that have been a bit slower.

7. Janvier 2008, 01:44:41

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Gordon Shumway: I have no idea of what color the list has, the only thing im 100% convinced of is that Brain Kings transferproblems

never will occur on Fencer's to do list...keep swiping...next year we'll see 70000 less games.

7. Janvier 2008, 01:43:41

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srnity: Shhh, I'll PM you about it

7. Janvier 2008, 01:43:19

The Col

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Gordon Shumway: Maybe the solution would be to post a disclaimer to those in areas that are most likely to have sub par performance on the site.The lesser quality might be logical,but it should be sold at a discount.

7. Janvier 2008, 01:42:10

srnity

Sooooooooooooo, how do I get on The List?

7. Janvier 2008, 01:39:01

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Andersp: I see... So it's gotta be the white list...

7. Janvier 2008, 01:37:42

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TarantinoFan: I'd like to point out again, that not everybody is having the problems you are talking about. I don't have them, and there are others who don't, and who stated it here right on this board. That doesn't mean no problems exist, but it makes it kind of unlikely, that those problems are on BrainKing's side (since we don't believe in a white list theory, right?). There are many routers and networks involved when the page data is transferred around the world. I just traced it, and my route passes 13 hops, but they are located in just two networks. So my ISP has a pretty decent connection to the ISP of BrainKing, I guess. And maybe yours doesn't. And for you and all the others a striped down version of BrainKing game pages and main page (like suggested by coan.net) might really be a great idea, to cut down the transfer time. I just don't know if cheeky posts are the fastest way to get it

BTW: If there are too many images for you to load - maybe you could turn smileys off to have fewer? Have you checked your browser settings? Does it have enough memory to cache all images so you don't have to load them again with each request? Because usually an image is only loaded once and then read from the cache instead of over the internet from i.brainking.com, and thus shouldn't slow your page loading time down at all.

7. Janvier 2008, 01:15:22

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TarantinoFan: 'ere 'ere

7. Janvier 2008, 01:03:07

Filip doesn't "Feed the Trolls" he is a troll himself. He never fails to troll through this site for "certain user" posts to respond to.

If the i brainking is taking so long to load doesn't that suggest that maybe there are too many images?

When people from both groups ie: "certain users" and "not you

" are saying the same thing then it would suggest that something needs to be checked somewhere and abuse of the "certain users" groups does not negate the fact that the "not you

" group is having the same problems with this site.

6. Janvier 2008, 23:55:48

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modifié par Andersp (6. Janvier 2008, 23:56:37)

Jim Dandy: LOL..i think so...but Fencer prefer to call it "Feeding the Troll" :)

guess we have to wait for the long article :)

6. Janvier 2008, 23:50:48

The Col

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Andersp: I have a feeling the press conference is over.

6. Janvier 2008, 23:49:54

ses messages postés | lien

Was my question to difficult Filip?

6. Janvier 2008, 23:38:49

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Gordon Shumway: Yes..i saw that excuse, but my question to Fencer was if it worries him.

6. Janvier 2008, 23:35:27

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Andersp: Due to the disappearance of Action Points, as he explained just two sentences further on. Which makes sense to me...

6. Janvier 2008, 23:31:48

ses messages postés | lien

2005: 678,600 games

2006: 860,546 games

2007: 792,881 games

Fencer: you have "lost" almost 70000 games 2006 - 2007...does it worry you?

6. Janvier 2008, 23:28:19

MadMonkey

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Fencer: ahhh thanks

No not really, i have the odd smiley that does not show itself, but shows as a group of a few pixels in a block, but apart from that all BK images are fine

Only problem i had yesterday was with the Alquerque board. I know it is large anyway, but for some reason the board once loaded, parts of it looked as if they were not loaded, if that makes sense. Like not completely there.
Is there no way to make smaller Alquerque, Jarmo and Ludo boards ? (yes i know, time lol)

6. Janvier 2008, 23:23:14

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Andersp: LOL

6. Janvier 2008, 23:19:50

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

MadMonkey: Sorry.

The i.brainking.com server provides all images and the brainking.com is still the BrainKing as we know it - the HTML code and similar things.
Are there any particular images you have a problem with?

6. Janvier 2008, 23:19:34

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Bernice: Better be a honest "Troll" than an a ...oooops!!!!! cant say that!!

6. Janvier 2008, 23:17:11

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Fencer: At least people know I mean what I say...unlike you....And "simple arguements" are for simple people...you are in your own company

6. Janvier 2008, 23:16:43

MadMonkey

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Fencer:

p.s. Did you miss my question, brainking.com & i.brainking.com, what is the difference ?

6. Janvier 2008, 23:14:58

Sujet: Re: thanks

ChessChampion: Thank you.

6. Janvier 2008, 23:14:38

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Jim Dandy: Every respectable person deserves a respect. Unfortunately it does not apply to Bernice. Hell, I have made this mistake again but sometimes I cannot resist.

6. Janvier 2008, 23:14:10

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Jim Dandy: Maybe a translation of "respect" to Fencers language could be a good idea?

6. Janvier 2008, 23:12:07

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Bernice: Obviously you are not smart enough to understand the simplest arguments. Which is, to my amusement, confirmed by your every post. Keep doing that.

6. Janvier 2008, 23:11:24

ChessChampion

Sujet: thanks

just wanted to say THX 4 da site fencer!!

i could neveerrrr really find many of da chess variants dat i have found here on other sites (i guess i didnt really loook tho cuz of IYT and stuff like that) lol

anyways thanks 2 u and da other important ppl dat have 2 do something w/da site :DD

6. Janvier 2008, 23:10:04

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Fencer: and besides...I paid the money, Im entitled to service...or isnt service part of your user agreement?

6. Janvier 2008, 23:09:35

The Col

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Fencer: I'm no psychologist,but people develop an attachment to sites,she's clearly not happy,but she deseves a degree of respect.

6. Janvier 2008, 23:08:27

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Fencer: because I love "giving it to ya" and watching you squirm LOL

You have become expert at it over the past 5-6 years

6. Janvier 2008, 23:06:37

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Gordon Shumway: I just "tested" 3 different Prag sites...all of them were flying....same distance bud :)

6. Janvier 2008, 23:04:20

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Andersp: Yeah... And this slowness is applied to the page transfer from BrainKing only to a certain group of users? What do you think why I don't have those issues? Because I am living relatively "close" to Prague and my ISP obviously has a good connection to CZ, or because I am on a mysterious BrainKing white list of people being serverd promplty?

6. Janvier 2008, 23:04:10

MadMonkey

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Fencer: OK, i will except what you say

Just so weird that up to a few days ago the site transfer / loading whatever we call it here was as fast as every pother place.

So my question is, what has changed

Oh yeah, and whats the difference between brainking.com & i.brainking.com ?

6. Janvier 2008, 23:04:00

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Bernice: There is one thing which I absolutely don't understand (and I am definitely not the only one) - what are you still doing on BrainKing?

Isn't is a good time to leave the site at last and find another one where they don't know you yet?

6. Janvier 2008, 23:02:14

Sujet: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Fencer: LOL...and all these bad things only happens to Brain King's transfer?..you are too good Filip!!

6. Janvier 2008, 23:01:50