Walter Montego: You should check out the http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=3 board.

Fencer has been asking for a couple of questions about the rules of international checkers.... which most likely means he is working on programming it. (not a guarentee - but why else would he be asking about the rules)

My suggestion - list the top 2 or 3 checker variants that you think would attract the most players - and post detailed rules about each of them here. Hopefully if Fencer is still in a programming mood, he will take up adding a few more checker variants. (and as he is programming 1 checker variant - it is usually easier to program other checker variants)

The rule: "If, after jumping, it is possible to jump over another opponent's piece, the player must capture this piece too"

That rule has always been like that - and I always try to make "traps" that will take advantage of that rule when I can.

!Undertaker!: I'm not a big Checkers player or anything, but wanted to mention http://www.goldtoken.com as a possible site.

GoldToken has recently been choosen to become the official playing site of the American Checker Federation (ACF). So GT has been working hard making sure all rules are correct and everything - and has been adding checker variants. (Plus GT is the official game site for the New Zealand Draughts Association (NZDA) also)

But they have:

* Checkers
* Armenian Checkers
* 11 Man Ballot
* Brazilian Checkers
* Canadian Checkers
* Czech Checkers
8 Man
* Frisian Checkers
* Giveaway Checkers
* International Checkers
* Italian Checkers
* Pool Checkers
* Restriction Checkers
* Russian Checkers
* Spanish Checkers
* Turkish Checkers

I'm not sure how many of you have tried out that site, but it sounds like they are trying hard to bring their Checker games up to par - so it might be a place for Checker fans to check out.

Gabriel Almeida: Oh, sorry - I did not mean to make it sound like I was talking about "Official" checker rules or anything like that.

I was talking about what was listed on this site in the game rules:

http://brainking.com/en/GameRules?tp=7

According to this site rules, that is what it says. If Fencer has changed the rules to the game, he has told no one - the rules page still lists the old one, and I think Fencer needs to inform users if any rule changes has taken place.

.... the question of if this site rules are the same as the "Official" rules - well I'm sure that is a debate in all it's self..... (which as a mostly non-checkers player, I honestly don't know much about.)

So what rules was changed - and for what game or games?

If the rules were changed, why wasn't the site notified? I don't play checker games very often, but I learned the rules enough to play a few games here and there - and if there is a rule change, I need to know about it (Most players probable do not ready the discussion boards.)

When a rule change was done to another games (Hasami Shogi) a notice was put on the top of every Hasami Shogi game so all players knew of the change.

I also looked at the rule page - and even compared the rule page to the rules from July 2006, and I don't see anything different.

Turkish Checkers says rules are same as Czech Checkers - and Czech Checkers says rules are same as Checkers. Normal checkers still has this rule:

"However, when a queen (in variants with long jumps) can make a jump, the player cannot select a pawn to jump with."

So what has changed - and why would something be changed and (1) users not told and worse, (2) not indicated in the game rules?

joshi tm: It may have been mentioned before, but for the games mentioned - is there a good site to see what the rule differences are for those games?

OK - suppose each player has 1 queen left, and an unmovable parachute man.

Lets say I can set it up to "sacrifice" my queen and have it setup that the oppenets queen will land where my Parachute guy can capture it.

Will the game end with my last queen being taken, or will the computer reconize that I can still make another move with the Parachute guy?

Fencer: Ok, what if you have a choice between a pawn & a parachutist. (Situation may come up in my next move in another game)

Does one over the other have to make the jump?

Ok, Checker rules state:

"If the player has more possibilities to capture opponent's pieces, he/she can select any of them. However, when a queen (in variants with long jumps) can make a jump, the player cannot select a pawn to jump with."

So how does that apply with a parachutist?

I have a game in which if I make the move I want, I will have an option to jump it with either my queen, or my parachutist.

To keep control of the game, I need to be able to jump it with my parachutist, not the queen.

So according to the rules, I should be able to jump with the parachutist - UNLESS the system counts the parachutist as a pawn.

Is there a rule somewhere like in chess, if the same move is made by both players 3 times or more in a row, the game can automaticly be called a draw?

... and now that I know that, i will always try to get my piece to the main diagnal early so if I can't win - I'll at least make it a draw.

(Maybe some sort of "After XX moves", the game ends and the person with the most pieces wins rule is needed?)

i'm currently in a game where I have about 3 white kings, plus able to get 1 or 2 more. My opponent has 1 black king, but he "controls" the main diagnal line. (Moving from 1 corner to the other corner) each move - leaving me unable to do anything!

What are the rules on draws - which i would hope this would not be.