Tuesday: At the same time, however, God is not non-religious either.

Artful Dodger: of course not

Tuesday: Is God religious?

Jim Dandy: You cannot. Christ even said his words would cause conflict.

Jim Dandy: So are political ideologies. Do you think people need religion to find ways to disagree?

Tuesday: No they can't and until one of the 'Gods" holds a press confrence on CNN (or FOX for AD) the status quo remans, as does the conflict

Tuesday: Exactly.. Just as Allah or G_d have nothing to do with it.

How can you have all these different religions, all teaching they are the real truth, and not have it cause conflict amongst the population of the world? I mean honestly

Jim Dandy: Aye.. and his words were used by the Nazi's to justify their pogrom

(V): Martin Luther was most responsible for that

Tuesday: The starters of the Protestant faith wanted the genocide of all Jews.

Artful Dodger: Are you sure about that?

Tuesday: And what of those who've used Judas as an excuse to condemn and kill Jews?

CNN Rips 'Incoherent' Obama: Even George W. Bush Had Clearer Message
By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive)
Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:56 ET
When the media outlet disaffectionately called the "Clinton News Network" starts ridiculing you to such an extent that you are depicted as a worse communicator than George W. Bush, you know your popularity as a Democrat President is in trouble.

Yet that's what happened Tuesday when CNN published a piece prominently displayed on the front page of its website with the surprising headline:

Critics Say Obama's Message Becoming 'Incoherent'

For the remaining fans of our 44th President, the article that followed wasn't any better:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/17/obama.mosque.message/index.html

The Press Conference That Never Happened
by Bob Parks
If a dozen or so black liberals held a press conference, screaming about Tea Party racism for a couple hours, the media would be showing clips for days.
Have a group of black conservatives hold a press conference against liberal racebaiters falsely accusing the Tea Party and you have a media laughing afterward with not a clip to be seen anywhere (except online).

Ferris Bueller: I've never utilized the Bible in that way and don't know of any who do. Don't over generalize. As for "left behind," that's a school of thought in eschatology. Even so, what about it?

Ferris Bueller: examples please

Tuesday: Then why do so many espoused Christians utilize the so-called "Old Testament" when it is convenient to condemn those who are different?  Many of them also use Revelations and John in the "New Testament" to promote intolerance of practitioners of other religions.

What Happened to the 400,000 Jobs Pelosi Promised after Healthcare ‘Reform’ Passed?
by SusanAnne Hiller
Back in February 2010, Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi promised the American people that approximately 400,000 jobs would be created due to the passage of the healthcare bill.

Remember Pelosi promised this:

Speaker Nancy Pelosi at the health summit: “It’s about jobs. In it’s life, it [the health bill] will create 4 million jobs — 400,000 jobs almost immediately.”

Well, it’s almost November and the economy still hasn’t gotten any better and we have no evidence of those jobs being created. I can only assume that she didn’t mean this either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaDtkG6afBc&feature=player_embedded

"There will be no earmarks in the bill (healthcare) that passes the house." N Pelosi

She raises her and and "swears" it.

Doesn't this just tick you Dems off to no end?

Tuesday: me too plus a couple of more

Tuesday: 40.... it's a matter of purification. Without the OT references.. how would anyone understand that?

Matthew
10:26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Tuesday: amongst other stuff.. including Genesis, why Jesus spent 40 days instead of 40 years in the wilderness, that God did not create creation first but a female side... etc, etc, etc.

Tuesday: Yes. It's excellent and I'll bet you like it. http://www.thenakedgospel.com/Default.aspx


It's really helped a lot of people get free from old teaching of the church (traditions etc) and emphasizes how we are not under the Old but under the New. (am not in any way suggesting you need to get away from old teaching. You seem to have a firm handle on what NT teaching really is about. That's why I think you'd appreciate this book).

Tuesday: ... the old law.. as in the rule of might?

Tuesday: Absolutely. BTW, have you read the Naked Gospel?

Artful Dodger: The Bible is not just the teachings of Christ.. if it was.. it'd just be the 4 Gospels. Nothing before.. nothing after.

It is not. To take stuff away just because you don't like it is a sin.

Tuesday:

Tuesday: Nope.. when they think the world is going to end and choose to be Christians just because of that.

Sad that some pray the world will end just to be in heaven.

Übergeek 바둑이: Give some examples where Christians and the teaching of Christ are behind this "scarier" stuff.

Übergeek 바둑이:

It may not be right to have an arsenal of nuclear weapons but it does seem necessary (as a deterrent). Is it against Christian teaching? Not really. The Bible doesn't address this but it does suggest that the State carries the sword for a purpose. Still it would be better if we could all live in peace. But we know that won't happen. Has it ever? .

Government do what governments do. That has little to do with the Christian faith. Murder is clearly wrong so if what you are suggesting is actual "murder" then it's wrong. But killing the bad guys isn't wrong. We could debate all day on who the bad guys are and I'd liklely agree with you on many points. But I'm speaking generally here - as a principle.

Al Qaida has killed far more than 3000. And in retrospect, Iraq was likely a mistake. Innocents do die in war. When that happens, it's a tragedy. But just because civilians died, that does not automatically mean that it was unjust. It could be unjust, but that civilians died isn't a sufficient factor in determining if the war was justified. Show me a war where civilians didn't die.

There is NOTHING in the Bible that speaks against wealth. It's not money that is evil. It's the love of it that leads people astray. But Jesus was not against people being rich. It's when people trust in their riches that God is not pleased.

You are right that Christianity has a history that is shameful in many cases. Men do shameful things in the name of many ideas.

"Jesus was a man who praised love and kindness above all. Christians are supposed to follow the teachings of Jesus. Those teachings go out the window when it comes to wealth and power."

No, they do not. They go out the window when those with wealth and power abuse that wealth and power over others. But wealth and power are not the enemies. I have power over my students and could abuse it. I don't. I consider myself a servant, as the Bible teaches. There are many people with lots of money that give give give. There are many people in power who actually are there to serve others. Sadly, this doesn't seem the norm. But that speaks to the evils of man and not the evils of power or money.

I really don't think you know what people think when they are in their homes. I certainly don't think the way you have protrayed people.

Artful Dodger: Aye... And the Samaritans story helps to reinforce your neighbour is EVERYONE.. even your enemy.

Tuesday: Revelations... but it's all in the end down to interpretation. That bit of Romans was more about those who call themselves Christians who are not. A problem even back then

Jim Dandy: neither am I... just I'm use to using the Bible with one core teaching in mind all the time.... "love"

Tuesday: Yes they do. And that's the problem. But clearly the message of Christianity can be summed up in this: Love thy neighbor.