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7. Juillet 2010, 01:03:40
The Col 
Sujet: Re: Only true and pure conservatives will find an endorsement from the Tea Party
Tuesday: That would be Christmas coming early

7. Juillet 2010, 00:56:02
The Col 
Sujet: Re: Only true and pure conservatives will find an endorsement from the Tea Party
Tuesday: Frankly,I think Steele was only brought in as a counter to Obama, and he knows it, so he's seeing how far he can push the envelope.

4. Juillet 2010, 22:58:52
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Re: Only true and pure conservatives will find an endorsement from the Tea Party
Jim Dandy: for bed bugs?

4. Juillet 2010, 22:54:38
The Col 
Sujet: Re: Only true and pure conservatives will find an endorsement from the Tea Party
Artful Dodger: Do they conduct bed checks?

4. Juillet 2010, 22:36:34
Papa Zoom 
Note that many of these goals are being violated by some members of the Republican party. Also note how some of them have been targeted for defeat in the upcoming elections. Only true and pure conservatives will find an endorsement from the Tea Party.

4. Juillet 2010, 22:34:17
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Tea Party Goals:
Protect the Constitution
Reject Cap & Trade
Demand a Balanced Budget
Enact Fundamental Tax Reform
Restore Fiscal Responsibility & Constitutionally Limited Government
End Runaway Government Spending
Defund, Repeal, & Replace Government-run Health Care
Pass an ‘All-of-the-Above” Energy Policy
Stop the Pork
Stop the Tax Hikes

4. Juillet 2010, 21:55:57
Mort 
Sujet: Re:
Tuesday: I'm just wondering if the Tea party will go by it's manifest and drink tea.

Every country usually has at least one revolution of some form or another. We had one recently over expenses... it ain't over yet

3. Juillet 2010, 18:40:05
The Col 
Sujet: Re: UMmmmmmmmmmmmmm Take a Deeeeeeppp Breath...
ScarletRose: Thanks a bunch!

3. Juillet 2010, 14:55:42
Mort 
The Industrial revolution.. Made Britain able to become the biggest Empire ever.

Up the British.. Down with the revolution.

Btw.. tea these days is foil bagged.. so throwing it in the water won't work

3. Juillet 2010, 13:55:11
"GERRY" 
Sujet: Re:
(V):

3. Juillet 2010, 13:16:13
Mort 
Sujet: Re:
rod03801: .. Pot roast is historic... dates back to the industrial revolution. Workers left their pot to cook while working.. use to have oysters though.

3. Juillet 2010, 02:43:15
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: the shameless left
Al Gore's 'moral sense' and 'integrity'
By Steve Milloy, GreenHellBlog.com
June 23, 2010

The same day that Al Gore allegedly sexually attacked a masseuse in Portland, Oregon, he said the following at a presentation of his infamous slide show:


"[Global warming] will give us the chance to experience something few generations ever know - a sense of moral purpose." [Source: The Columbian (Vancouver, WA), Oct. 25, 2006]

The Columbian went on to quote one Jonathan Potkin who said,

"I admire that fact that he could just as well have left well enough alone [and left public life]. I think he is a pretty genuine character. It's too bad there aren't more people in government who have that same integrity."

POP QUIZ: Which of the below isn't like the others?

* Moral sense
* Integrity
* Sexual assault

3. Juillet 2010, 02:27:28
rod03801 
General Chat or Members only is... that way --------->

3. Juillet 2010, 01:02:53
ScarletRose 
Sujet: Re: UMmmmmmmmmmmmmm Take a Deeeeeeppp Breath...
Jim Dandy: sent

3. Juillet 2010, 00:55:37
The Col 
Sujet: Re: UMmmmmmmmmmmmmm Take a Deeeeeeppp Breath...
modifié par The Col (3. Juillet 2010, 00:56:01)
ScarletRose: now that you mention it,I have a crock pot getting dusty,and I love pot roast, could you maybe pm me the recipe?

3. Juillet 2010, 00:43:55
ScarletRose 
Sujet: UMmmmmmmmmmmmmm Take a Deeeeeeppp Breath...
and smell the pot roast .. yummy baby carrots, baby reds and onions in the crock pot along with the roast.. '

Relax... the holiday weekend ahead for the Americans.. and Canada recently celebrated a holiday as well..

Sit back, relax, and try to have trust and faith..

2. Juillet 2010, 19:00:27
Mort 
Psychology

Following the Second World War, psychologists conducted research into the different motives and tendencies that account for ideological differences between left and right. The early studies focused on conservatives, beginning with Theodor W. Adorno's The Authoritarian Personality (1950). This book has been heavily criticized on theoretical and methodological grounds, but some of its findings have been confirmed by further empirical research..[82]

In 1973, British psychologist Glenn Wilson published an influential book providing evidence that a general factor underlying conservative beliefs is "fear of uncertainty".[83] A meta-analysis of research literature by Jost, Glaser, Kruglanski, and Sulloway in 2003 found that many factors, such as intolerance of ambiguity and need for cognitive closure, contribute to the degree of one's political conservatism.[82] A study by Kathleen Maclay stated these traits "might be associated with such generally valued characteristics as personal commitment and unwavering loyalty." The research also suggested that both liberals and conservatives are resistant to change; liberals simply have a higher tolerance.[84]

According to psychologist Robert Altemeyer, individuals who are politically conservative tend to rank high in Right-Wing Authoritarianism on his RWA scale.[85] This finding was echoed by Theodor Adorno. A study done on Israeli and Palestinian students in Israel found that RWA scores of right-wing party supporters were significantly higher than those of left-wing party supporters.[86] However, a 2005 study by H. Michael Crowson and colleagues suggested a moderate gap between RWA and other conservative positions. "The results indicated that conservatism is not synonymous with RWA." [87]

Psychologist Felicia Pratto and her colleagues have found evidence to support the idea that a high Social Dominance Orientation (SDO) is strongly correlated with conservative political views, and opposition to social engineering to promote equality, though Pratto's findings have been highly controversial.[88] Pratto and her colleagues found that high SDO scores were highly correlated with measures of prejudice. They were refuted in this claim by David J. Schneider, who wrote that "correlations between prejudice and political conservative are reduced virtually to zero when controls for SDO are instituted" [89] and by Kenneth Minogue who wrote "It is characteristic of the conservative temperament to value established identities, to praise habit and to respect prejudice, not because it is irrational, but because such things anchor the darting impusles of human beings in solidities of custom which we do not often begin to value until we are already losing them. Radicalism often generates youth movements, while conservatism is a condition found among the mature, who have discovered what it is in life they most value." [90]

A 1996 study on the relationship between racism and conservatism found that the correlation was stronger among more educated individuals, though specifically anti-Black racism did not increase. They also found that the correlation between racism and conservatism could be entirely accounted for by their mutual relationship with social dominance orientation. The authors concluded that opposition to affirmative action, especially among more highly educated conservatives, was better explained by social dominance orientation than by principled conservatism.[91

2. Juillet 2010, 18:52:10
Mort 
Sujet: Left-Wing vs Right-Wing
Left-Wing or Right-Wing politics or the Left-Right political spectrum is a one dimensional spectrum used to classify political parties, political positions, or political ideologies.

To explain the difference between the two its easier to compare and contrast the positions taken by the far left and the far right. Be aware that many people’s political beliefs are on a continuum between left and right.

A brief way to describe the difference would be to say that left wingers believe the country is more important than the individual, and right wingers believe that the individual is more important than the country.

2. Juillet 2010, 18:45:48
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Re: Obama's pick for the Supreme Court
Jim Dandy: She said that like all good Jews she was in a Chinese restaurant

2. Juillet 2010, 12:53:21
The Col 
Sujet: Re: Obama's pick for the Supreme Court
Artful Dodger: What was her answer to what she was doing on Christmas?

2. Juillet 2010, 02:46:51
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: From Clancy Sigal, a liberal blogger
We, Obama's "liberal base", of which I'm a charter member, were in numb denial that our former community organiser, who elicited such an outpouring of love from his vast network of volunteers, is actually just another Illinois pol – but with a better vocabulary.

2. Juillet 2010, 01:07:25
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Evidence of racism in the Obama administration.
Adams places the blame for the dismissal of the case on racism.

..the dismissal is part of a creeping lawlessness infusing our government institutions. Citizens would be shocked to learn about the open and pervasive hostility within the Justice Department to bringing civil rights cases against nonwhite defendants on behalf of white victims. Equal enforcement of justice is not a priority of this administration. Open contempt is voiced for these types of cases.

Some of my co-workers argued that the law should not be used against black wrongdoers because of the long history of slavery and segregation. Less charitable individuals called it “payback time.” Incredibly, after the case was dismissed, instructions were given that no more cases against racial minorities like the Black Panther case would be brought by the Voting Section.

Is this the view of Justice under the administration of Barack Obama? Are only non-whites allowed to have their rights protected by the nation’s law enforcers? Is perjury and obstruction of justice from the DOJ now allowed?

These are very serious charges being brought forward by Mr. Adams. Charges that strike at the very heart of our American republic. He is reporting that equality before the law and freedom from racial discrimination is not offered to all Americans.

The Justice Department refuses to cooperate with the US Commission on Civil Rights investigation, so there needs to be an independent prosecutor appointed to get to the truth, and it must be done immediately to guarantee the integrity of the upcoming mid-term elections.

2. Juillet 2010, 01:02:51
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: more change you can believe in
Former DOJ Official Charges Racism Drove DOJ to Kill Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case
by Jeff Dunetz
You probably don’t recognize the name J. Christian Adams Mr. Adams name, but you will very soon. Adams recently resigned from his position as Attorney in the Voter Rights Division of the Department of Justice to protest the racism, perjury, and obstruction of justice surrounding the DOJ’s dropping of the election day 2008 voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther party.

On election day 2008, members of the New Black Panther Party in Philadelphia, wearing black berets, black combat boots, black shirts and black jackets intimidated Caucasian voters with racial insults, slurs and nightsticks. They were arrested with another party member who was accused of managing, directing and endorsing their behavior. The entire event was captured on videotape.



Two months later the Justice Dept filed a civil complaint against the New Black Panther Party. When the court date arrived In April, a federal judge had ordered default judgments against the Panthers because they refused to respond to the charges or appear in court, basically a guaranteed win.

The Justice Department was in the final stages of of recommending a sentence when a delay in the proceedings was ordered by Loretta King, a brand new Obama political appointee who was the acting assistant attorney general.

King met with Associate Attorney General Thomas J. Perrelli, the department’s No. 3 political appointee, and another political appointee, Steve Rosenbaum, and decided to drop the case. Along with the dropping of the case Adams says the DOJ issued a directive that the Voting Rights division was no longer allowed to bring cases such as this against minorities.


For the past ten months the US Commission on Civil Rights, a federal agency, has been investigating the Justice Department, trying to get to the bottom of why the charges were dropped. But the Attorney General of the “most transparent administration in history” has decided not to cooperate.

The number one law-man in the country, who is charged with being the chief truth-seeker of the United States has been obstructing justice by telling members of his staff to ignore subpoenas.

2. Juillet 2010, 00:59:41
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: A true American Hero
Honoring SSG Sal Giunta, the First Living Medal of Honor Recipient Since the Vietnam War
by Jim Hanson
SSG Sal Giunta, a paratrooper w/ the 173rd Airborne, will be awarded the first Medal of Honor given to a living recipient since the Vietnam War. He earned this by charging a group of Taliban who were trying to make off with a wounded comrade in the Korengal Valley of Afghanistan. His actions broke the Taliban’s attack and allowed him to regain control of SGT Josh Brennan. He also saved the lives of the many other members of his unit who had been caught in a fixed ambush by the Taliban. Giunta didn’t hesitate one second before advancing on his own to ensure the enemy would never take one of ours, but sadly Josh Brennan was too badly wounded too survive. His cousin PVT Joe Brennan recently graduated airborne school and has joined the same unit proudly carrying on Josh’s memory.

2. Juillet 2010, 00:57:31
Papa Zoom 
modifié par Papa Zoom (2. Juillet 2010, 00:57:53)
Obama Policies Unfocused, Ineffective Say a Plurality of Voters
Brad O'Leary
President Obama's inability to stem the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico or jumpstart an economy mired in a deep recession is weighing heavily on the minds of voters, according to the results of a new poll conducted by Zogby International. That poll finds that a plurality of voters feel the President's policies are "unfocused, disorganized and ineffective." The poll was conducted June 25-28 and surveyed 2,061 likely voters.

Those numbers will grow and only get worse for Obama.

1. Juillet 2010, 19:21:59
Mort 
Sujet: Re:
Tuesday: Luckily some do know when do back down.. otherwise we'd be glowing in the dark right now. Change is supposed to one of the true constants in the universe.. and as the scientists say today.. the closer you try and measure something.. the less accurate you become.

1. Juillet 2010, 17:29:47
Papa Zoom 
Supreme Court Justice nominee Sonia Sotomayor came off as a 2nd Amendment defender when she was being questioned during her confirmation hearings. She voted the other way when a gun rights case came to The Court.


Can we now trust Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9bsm7BS998&feature=player_embedded

1. Juillet 2010, 14:10:17
Mort 
Conservative coalition
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The conservative coalition, in the United States, was an unofficial Congressional coalition bringing together the conservative majority of the Republican Party and the conservative, mostly Southern, minority of the Democratic Party. It was influential in the United States Congress from 1939 to 1961 and remained a political force until the mid 1980's.

....In the hard-fought 1938 congressional elections the Republicans scored major gains in both houses, picking up six Senate seats and 80 House seats. Thereafter the conservative Democrats and Republicans in both Houses of Congress would often vote together on major economic issues, thus defeating many proposals by liberal Democrats[2]. A handful of liberal measures, notably the minimum wage laws, did pass when the Conservative Coalition split.....

...Liberals gained control of the House Rules Committee, and thus the congressional agenda, in 1961. But conservatives in the U.S. Senate could still veto legislation using the filibuster. Under President Lyndon Johnson, who had an intimate knowledge of the inner workings of Congress, liberals, together with Republicans led by Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, who convinced all but six Republicans to vote for cloture, broke a southern filibuster led by Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) and passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Though a greater percentage of Republicans than Democrats (about 80% versus 60% respectively) voted for cloture and for the bill, the GOP Presidential nominee, Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), voted against cloture (even though he had previously supported all other major civil rights legislation). Many blamed that vote for heavy losses among conservative Republicans in Congress in 1964, though Goldwater's own defeat in the White House race was also a factor. The GOP regained strength in the congressional elections of 1966. In subsequent years, especially with the "Republican Revolution" in 1994, Republicans took control of most conservative Southern districts, so the Southern Democratic part of the coalition gradually faded...

Is it me or does it seem it was southern and conservative Americans who were against civil rights, where moderate and liberal (and from the north of the USA) Americans (regardless of party) were for it.

1. Juillet 2010, 11:30:11
Mort 
In 2009 in Louisiana a judge refused to preside over a civil wedding because of it being a mixed race marriage. His reason... he was scared that the children would not be accepted by black or white people stating it was not the first time.

He sent them off to get married elsewhere, which they did.

1. Juillet 2010, 11:26:03
Mort 
Ultimately, on June 19, the substitute (compromise) bill passed the Senate by a vote of 73-27, and quickly passed through the House-Senate conference committee, which adopted the Senate version of the bill. The conference bill was passed by both houses of Congress, and was signed into law by President Johnson on July 2, 1964. Legend has it that as he put down his pen Johnson told an aide, referring to the Democratic Party, "We have lost the South for a generation."[9]

By party and region

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

* Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
* Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)

* Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
* Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)

The Senate version:

* Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%)
* Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%)
* Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%)
* Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%)

1. Juillet 2010, 09:02:26
Mort 
Sujet: Re:
Artful Dodger: All you've proven is that America has had a problem with racism, segregation and some other stuff.

I must have missed that bit in me history lessons... not.

1. Juillet 2010, 07:46:39
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Re:
Bernice: It's funny. I'm the only one from the right that regularly posts here. So FBs post is directed at me. So instead of dealing with ANY of the issues, HE gets personal. He calls out names. Even though he is complaining about that very thing, he still does it himself.

1. Juillet 2010, 07:39:19
Bernice 
Sujet: Re:
Artful Dodger: ROFL

1. Juillet 2010, 07:38:52
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Re:
Ferris Bueller: See you in a month!

1. Juillet 2010, 07:26:38
Ferris Bueller 

Its nice to see somewhere where consitency abounds in this ever changing world.  It's been over a month since I have viewed this board.  Looks like I have missed very little.  Same obsessions from the far right, and if they are proven wrong it gets personal.


Catch you later.  LOL


1. Juillet 2010, 07:18:52
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Ya gotta love the left
June 29, 2010
Kos Pollster Fired for Faking Data
Clarice Feldman
Daily Kos is certainly one of the most popular left blog sites, so it is with interest that we learn that its pollster upon whom so much of its stories were based, was just making it up.

DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas has admitted that some or all of the surveys the site conducted through Research 2000 may be faulty - even fabricated:

I have just published a report by three statistics wizards showing, quite convincingly, that the weekly Research 2000 State of the Nation poll we ran the past year and a half was likely bunk.

No surprise here

1. Juillet 2010, 06:56:39
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Oh, did a politician lie???
June 30, 2010
SEIU official under oath indicates Obama lied
Thomas Lifson
Thomas Balanoff, head of the SEIU Illinois Council, testified under oath at the Blago trial that President Obama called him to lobby for Valerie Jarrett to be named by Governor Blagojevich to replace Obama in the Senate. This directly contradicts the President's repeated denials of any direct or indirect contact with Blago to influence the naming of his Senate replacement.

1. Juillet 2010, 06:45:23
Papa Zoom 
How do you measure the legacy of the departed West Virginia senator? I look at this . . .

Robert C. Byrd Academic and Technology Center
Robert C. Byrd addition to the lodge at Oglebay Park, Wheeling
Byrd Aerospace Technology Center
Robert C. Byrd Bridge between Huntington and Chesapeake, Ohio
Robert C. Byrd Cancer Research Center
Robert C. Byrd Clinical Addition to the veterans’ hospital in Huntington
Robert C. Byrd Community Center, Pine Grove
Robert C. Byrd Community Center in the naval [communications] station, Sugar Grove
Robert C. Byrd Drive, from Beckley to Sophia (Byrd’s hometown)
Robert C. Byrd Expressway, U.S. 22 near Weirton Robert C. Byrd Federal Building
Robert C. Byrd Federal Courthouse
Robert C. Byrd Freeway
Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope
Robert C. Byrd Hardwood Technologies Center, near Princeton
Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center of West Virginia
Robert C. Byrd High school in Bridgeport
Robert C. Byrd Highway
Robert C. Byrd Hilltop Office Complex, Mineral County
Robert C. Byrd Honors Scholarships
Robert C. Byrd Industrial Park, Hardy County
Robert C. Byrd Institute in Charleston
Robert C. Byrd Institute for Advanced Flexible Manufacturing
Robert C. Byrd Library and Robert C. Byrd Learning Resource Center
Robert C. Byrd Life Long Learning Center
Robert C. Byrd Locks and Dam
Robert C. Byrd National Technology Transfer Center
Robert C. Byrd Rural Health Center
Robert C. Byrd Scholastic Recognition Award
Byrd Science Center, Shepherd University
Robert C. Byrd Technology Center at Alderson-Broaddus College
Robert C. Byrd United Technical Center
Robert C. Byrd Visitor Center at Harpers Ferry National Historic Park
. . . and think of one word: modesty.

1. Juillet 2010, 06:43:46
Papa Zoom 
Who was the man first ran for public office at the urging of a grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan?

1. Juillet 2010, 02:37:52
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Who gave
a 14 hour and 13 minute filibuster against the Civil Rights Act of 1964???

Hint: A Democrat.

1. Juillet 2010, 02:36:14
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Obama's pick for the Supreme Court
June 30, 2010
Kagan can't answer, Do we have the power to tell people what to eat?

Sen. Coburn: "If I wanted to sponsor a bill and it said, ‘Americans, you have to eat three vegetables and three fruits every day,' and I got it through Congress, and it's now the law of the land, gotta do it.... Does that violate the law?"

Kagan: "Sounds like a dumb law."

Sen. Coburn: "Yeah, I got one that's real similar that I think is equally dumb." (ObamaCare)

Kagan: (Pause) "But I think the question of whether it's a dumb law is different from the question of whether it's Constitutional. And I would think courts would be wrong to strike down laws that they think are senseless just because they're senseless."

Sen. Coburn: "I guess the question I'm asking is, Do we have the power to tell people what they have to eat everyday."

Kagan: "Senator... (stuttering).

Sen. Coburn: "I mean what is the extent of the commerce clause? We have this wide embrace of the commerce clause which these guys (holds up the Constitution and Federalist Papers) never, ever, fathomed that we would be so stupid as to take our liberty away by expanding it in this manner."


HEY KAGAN!!! THE ANSWER IS A SIMPLE NO!!!!

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