Czuch: No, that is just one thing I enjoy to do. It is useful sometimes, especially when dealing with officialdom.. It's so nice to watch them squirm after they have tried to be less then honest.

Ya know.. that little niggle.. "something stinks/is wrong here"

Like one time I was told that one office could not communicate with another office 400 miles away..... my reply.. "what!! You've never heard of the postal service? ..... the bloke hung up.

(V): your agenda is to seek the truth wherever it is to be found...

Czuch: .. I'm not everyone. I'm just one part of the human race. Generalisation and assumption based on pre determined values of what a person is based on a label.... Is never accurate.

Especially when you've never actually met the person. It's good to see.

(V): Thats what everyone says.....

Artful Dodger: ......... tell me then, if you think I have one... what do you think it is. I'll bet ya 1000 chips ya wrong.

Artful Dodger: hahahahaha

Artful Dodger:

(V):   Everybody has an agenda.  Even you. 

GoodTimeCharlie: Use your mind, it being yours, learn how to trust your instincts and intuition and be yourself.

Same way people escaped all the other 'dictatorships' (whether government or religion based) through out the years.

.... And when you can.. pass it on.

Pedro Martínez:

"The Czech EU Presidency rejected reports yesterday (25 March) that Prime Minister Mirek Topolánek had referred to US stimulus policy as the "way to hell", saying he had been misunderstood. ......... "No, he didn't say that," Czech Deputy Prime Minister Alexandr Vondra told a news conference after Topolánek's speech to the European Parliament on Wednesday (25 March).

...... A Czech presidency spokesman said Topolánek, speaking through an interpreter, had noted the United States was taking strong fiscal action to combat the economic crisis. Topolánek then said the European Union would be on the "way to hell" if it boosted its own fiscal spending, the spokesman said.

Blunder

The Czech EU presidency website published a summary of his statement, however, which sounds quite different from the original speech made at a European Parliament plenary session in Strasbourg.

Czech journalists confirmed that European Parliament translators were not to blame. Their delivery of Topolánek's words was quoted by the international press in the following terms:

"The US Treasury secretary talks about permanent action and we, at our spring council, were quite alarmed at that [...] The US is repeating mistakes from the 1930s, such as wide-ranging stimuluses, protectionist tendencies and appeals, the 'Buy American' campaign, and so on," he told the Parliament session in Strasbourg. "All these steps, their combination and their permanency, are the road to hell."

It is not the first time that Topolánek made a blunder in the European Parliament. Presenting the Czech EU Presidency's priorities in January, the prime minister caused an outcry when he suggested that the EU's current Nice Treaty was better than the Lisbon Treaty, which the Union's leaders are struggling to push through."
http://www.euractiv.com/en/opinion/czech-us-remarks-complicate-obama-prague-visit/article-180683?Ref=RSS

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The moral of this story is... don't believe all the hype when those reporting a matter have an agenda.

Please give a solution to avoid the trap and global enslavement

The Usurper: and so what is your response? what is your solution to this?should the masses arm themselves and attack?

You give money to banks, that gives you the right to tell them what they can do with it....

now you have to tell me why we cant drug test welfare recipients too????

cant wait to listen to the hypocritical rationals against this one....

Pedro Martínez: Thanks for that Pedro.... now I like your country even better than yesterday, do you have a bunk house for me to live for awhile?

The Globalists! They've succeeded once again in getting people to bicker about an issue, however worthy in itself, which nevertheless distracts from the larger issues at play. This is what the Left & Right are FOR! :o)

AD said: "When the level of outrage is greater than the level of the offense, something else is at play."

I would only change it to say: "When the level of outrage is greater & more prolonged than the offense necessitates (no matter how inherently offensive), something else is at play."

He is right. Something else is at play. So what is going on with the media coverage of this issue? It is called suckering people into a relative non-issue which they fall for time & time again, hook, line & sinker, while the web of world enslavement is laid quietly strand upon strand.

Does anyone here think his/her country is immune, or whose leaders are not involved, or whose people are too enlightened, to fall into this global trap?

You are mistaken. Time to smell the coffee.

Artful Dodger: sounds like australia to me but we had money to get us thru some of the bad times, whereas england had sweet fanny adams. God help us if things get much worse LOL.......

In my opinion they should stop the dole to the lazy b's who are living off the Govt and make them survive as they did before all the welfare was introduced. How would the younger ones survive a depression on nothing as their forefathers did.

I don't know much about the politics of Britain nor do I fully understand their economic problems, but this speech by Daniel Hannan, MEP for South East England, sure sounds like it could be given in the US Congress.  Hannan addresses Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister druing his visit to the European Parlament.  Check it out.

Wouldn't it be great if someone in the US Congress had the smarts to deliver a speech like this to the over-spending of our US President?!    

Czuch: That's not him, Chuck. :) The guy who's the avid fighter against the global warming hoax is Václav Klaus, the Czech President.

Pedro Martínez: I have always liked that Czech PM... he isnt a big fan of the global warming scare tactics either, I dont think?

hahaha Now I might have one place I can like to move to if/when I dont like it here anymore (if they will take me)

Pedro Martínez: He's absolutely right too!

Warning! Quote follows! Read at your own risk!

"The US economic policy is the road to hell."
(Mirek Topolánek, Czech Prime Minister and EU President)

Finally someone who said it loud.

Artful Dodger: K sorry

Czuch: V and I were talking about something different. Dick Morris dropped the "retarded" word.

Jim Dandy: Yes, it was on the Fox News Channel. But not an argument over semantics. Over accuracy.

(V): he said..."I'm a little retarded about this".

NO... he said something like... " I felt like i should be in special olympics".... nothing none of us has not ever said before, and he laughed about it, as we all have done before, but he is president, and he is not a professional comedian... how you can complain about a comedy show parody about the canadian army, yet are not even fazed a little bit about Bam, just tells me that you have some biases, especially since you never have any issues with Bush being slammed all day long for many of his gaffs, many similar to what Bam just did?

Artful Dodger: An argument over semantics.....it was on the Fox News channel, so sorry for all the confusion....oy veh

Jim Dandy: but it DID happen on Fox News.


NO it did NOT hapen on fox news

(V): Not just the content, but the intent and the timing.

Right... well the INTENT was COMEDY!!!!!!!

BTW, the intent of Bam was comedy as well, except Bam is NOT a comedian, he is president

Just because you do not think it was funny doesnt matter.... thats my point, I dont think making fun of Bush was funny either, but that does not make it wrong or that it should be banned or anything like that

You can have a personal dislike, anything you want, but that is all you get... the rest is just something annoying buzzing in my ear...

Jim Dandy: No it happened on Red Eye. So once again you get it wrong.

Artful Dodger: but it DID happen on Fox News.........and the clip was provided to AVOID any confusion as to what was said.......wow, you're too much bud

(V): I should have said he just used the word instead. Point is still there. It was on Fox and people came unglued. PC is at the point now where it's way past being silly.

Artful Dodger: No... he said..."I'm a little retarded about this".. He said he didn't know or failed to understand. PC was overdone by people who missed the point and what he said. I suggest that like Obama, that was overplayed.

Artful Dodger: You get headaches from trying to understand me... I'm expanding your mind then!! ...... Thankyou for letting me know that.

Czuch: Because Czuch. It depends on how it's done. Not just the content, but the intent and the timing. But generally racism, and subjects based on an ism.

He made a stupid analogy. Not a tirade of immature moronic garbage. I don't even get how they get to call themselves comedians!! We have guys here that use their brains to make jokes.

Czuch: Don't try to understand any of it. It will give you a migrane.

Czuch: It wasn't said on Fox so it's ok. By the way, an O'Reilly guest once said a certain thing was "retarded." Well, you know what hit the fan on that one?

(V): He didn't, he used the wrong analogy and screwed up because of that.

He tried to make a joke using disabled people.... but he is the president of the US

These other guys tried to make a joke using the canadian military.... but they are COMEDIANS

(V): wow, you really do have a way of missing the point and straying from a topic

You were complaining about comedy against the canadian military.... I simply want to know what other topics of comedy you would have off limits as well???

Czuch: He didn't, he used the wrong analogy and screwed up because of that. It is then to choose whether you think the man had a temporary attack of idiocy (as we all do being human) ... or is a idiot fall stop.

The vote is out as it's too early to tell.

Censorship... Mmmmm Difficult, my main thing would be adverts that don't tell the truth or are designed to pray on peoples fears attenuated by a Hollywood culture that requires a very big bank account to realistically meet the false idol the adverts 'project' as being real rather then delusional.

TV... it's a thing of the moment, one cannot tell until one has seen. But I certainly wouldn't be a 'mary'..... British TV, etc... is so much more open then your US system.

(V): And as I said, if people in the UK can get canned for making inappropiate jokes.. why can't the same apply to another joke making people?

So you would support then, I guess Bam being fired for joking about the disabled right??? hahahah

(V): All?

Sure, why not... Id like to know what kind of world we would live in if you were in charge of the censorship...

BTW, I must have missed all the angry posts from you all when Bam had a laugh at the expense of handicapped people?????? Disabled must not be on your list I guess...

Artful Dodger: I do.

(V): Not really. I clearly know more about this than you would. But it doesn't matter to me. Think whatever you like.

Artful Dodger: I do. Just admit it for once.

(V): It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about here.

Artful Dodger: fox... fox... fox.

CRTC approves Fox News for CanadaNov 18, 2004 ... Fox News will be coming to Canadian digital television after CRTC approves application by cable association.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2004/11/18/fox_crtc041118.html

I'll bet some Canadian are fans of the show. Even still.

(V): Not the same Jules and you know it. Or are you suggesting that if The Simpson's cartoon show has a controversial topic on it can be blamed on Fox News? It's not Fox News, it's The Fox News Channel or simply Fox. When someone says "Fox News" they lump it all together. Hogwash. Rubbish. Nonsense. Be specific. Here are some dishonest headlines:

Fox News jokesters forced into retreat over Canadian military
Fox News apologizes to Canada for troop remarks
tons of these examples

And more honest:
FOX News (RED EYE) Insults Canada - Blogger News Network
Red Eye vs. Canada, Eh? Gutfeld Apologizes - mediabistro.com: TVNewser
Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld-Invade Canada? - AOL Video
Red Eye Host Forced to Apologize to Canada / Jossip
Fox News Show Red Eye Mocks Canada - iReport.com

One reports dishonestly and the other honestly and accuractly.

Artful Dodger: Oh Blimey.. fox news.. fox channel, yatta, yatta, yatta.

Jim Dandy: Well, I find it odd that you emphasized the fact that it happened on "Fox News." That line was dishonest. It didn't happen on Fox News. Some headlines got it right and were accurate about the entire story. They didn't have to resort to half-truths to make their point. You intentionally distorted the truth.