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Artful Dodger: yep as he took the money and ran LOLOL

2. Mars 2009, 04:22:01

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Artful Dodger: the last one can only be guessed at, and your guess is as good as mine.

Mr Rudd is throwing so much money around to the needy/greedy is it any wonder we are going down. Personally it doesnt affect me because Im debt free. The only way it affects me is my interest rates go down on investments, but apart from that I could care less what happens.

2. Mars 2009, 04:19:48

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Bernice:As in he took the money and ran?

2. Mars 2009, 04:19:37

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Artful Dodger: the third one is to do with Bonds underwear, it has been sold out from under our butts ROFLMBO

2. Mars 2009, 04:18:36

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Artful Dodger: the first 2 are to do with TELSTRA boss....he is an american that was bought over here to get telstra up and running....it is only about 3-4 years and has made for himself (trying to remember) 1st year 15 mil, 2nd year, 12mil, and so on and so on. Is leaving with a farewell bonus of 3mil.

Now Im not sure on the exact figures as I cant spell his surname to check it up....His christian name is Sol .......??

2. Mars 2009, 03:08:08

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modifié par Papa Zoom (2. Mars 2009, 03:09:43)

Bernice:They are cartoons by Aussies but not necessarily about Australia. Maybe you can help.

adios

This one is related to the above

another

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2. Mars 2009, 02:56:56

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Artful Dodger: yes please to the aussie cartoons....I will explain if I can ROFL..........

2. Mars 2009, 02:29:12

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anastasia: That's always been my view too.

2. Mars 2009, 02:28:18

anastasia

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Artful Dodger: passionate yes,some things that make ya go hmmm,sure..but to convince me that this whole 9-11 thing is one big consperacy is just not gonna fly with me...it was a tragic historic event and alot of lives were lost and all changed forever.. some sick people attacked the USA on 9-11,NOT our government

2. Mars 2009, 02:14:36

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Bernice:Hey I found some political cartoons from Australia but can't understand them all. I think you have be be an Aussi to get them. Wanna see a few?

2. Mars 2009, 01:43:40

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anastasia:He's passionate about it.

Some of the things brought up does make one think. I'm afraid that some of those in the conspiracy camp hurt their own cause by their telling as opposed to simply putting stones in our shoes. I prefer the latter.

2. Mars 2009, 01:24:24

anastasia

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The Usurper: I appreciate your comments, but can't agree with the reasons for your conclusions.
as I can't agree with your babbling on and on and onnnnnnn about this thing......my GAWD already....

2. Mars 2009, 00:57:25

Except that cartoons like this one are on topic.

2. Mars 2009, 00:24:51

Mort

http://incontemptcomics.com/comics/2008-05-30.gif

2. Mars 2009, 00:21:18

Mort

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Artful Dodger: Ahhh but I was bringing some balance.... Seeing as alot of cartoons regarding your current Pres are being put on this board.

Are they really needed?

2. Mars 2009, 00:18:57

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(V):That's old news. Who cares. Not even funny as he's out of office now. Mines funnier.

2. Mars 2009, 00:17:44

Mort

http://www.caricatures-ireland.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/george-bush-cartoon.jpg

2. Mars 2009, 00:16:32

Mort

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20040613/cartoon20040613.gif

1. Mars 2009, 23:43:03

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/drsanity/LENT.jpg

1. Mars 2009, 22:02:21

Mort

Especially since the advent of TV has democracy gone down hill, with budgets spent on campaigns now being more important then capability.

1. Mars 2009, 21:59:07

Mort

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The Usurper: Aye.. I've heard similar. In the end it's best not to elect a man in charge of the country who wants to be in charge, but someone fit for the job instead.

How many western leaders have we had that have proven to be less then honest... and how many leaders world wide have to proven to fall short of the mark.

Most.

1. Mars 2009, 21:49:46

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(V): It is possible that governments in general develop psychopathic tendencies of self-preservation, and become ruthless predators to accomplish this. They become beasts apart from the people they rule or ostensibly represent. We know that it is often people who seek power, who rise to the top of the political-economic chain. And those are the worst kinds of people to be in charge. That is why Plato said it would take a Philosopher-King (a man who didn't want the job) to establish a truly just society. He also said democracies inevitably devolve into oligarchies, then tyrannies. Looks like he may have been right.

1. Mars 2009, 21:35:24

Mort

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The Usurper: Aye.. we moaned about the bombing of London, etc.. then did the same to the axis countries.

1. Mars 2009, 21:32:01

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(V): It might have been "all of the above." Like the firebombing of civilian targets, it was unconscionable, whatever the strategic purpose(s).

1. Mars 2009, 21:27:29

Mort

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The Usurper: Mmmmm so many rumours over the A bomb drops on Japan. Some say it was to end the war quickly, some say it was to see the actual consequences of the use of such devices for future reference, some say it was to frighten the Russians.

1. Mars 2009, 21:23:34

Mort

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Czuch: Fear and terror like certain leaders have used before can give them the right to get away with murder.

Terrorism has been with us for years, some independent, some supported by certain governments in order for them to enjoy playing their stupid power games.

If 911 was not Osma Bin Laden (as the FBI now seem to be saying) then who?

1. Mars 2009, 21:21:22

Sujet: Re:One word on why the buildings had to come down: "Shock and Awe"

Artful Dodger: Gotta catch a snooze while you can. :o)

It's snowing cats & dogs here! Whoopedoo! (rare in GA)

Yes....to create terror.

Also consider that the perpetrators (if the U.S. Government) were in charge of the crime scene & the investigation, not to mention they control the corporate media. And small-scale false-flag operations had already been tried & tested & proven doable. 9/11, then, would be the biggie, the one they'd been aiming for, to bring about their major objectives. In this scenario, the main reason they thought they wouldn't get caught would have to be....Hubris.

(I'm writing to Art here but also trying to answer some of Czuch's objections)

1. Mars 2009, 20:19:38

Sujet: Re:One word on why the buildings had to come down: "Shock and Awe"

The Usurper:To create terror?

1. Mars 2009, 20:17:19

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The Usurper:lazy, it's the afternoon (I'm still in my PJ's tho) ;)

1. Mars 2009, 20:17:15

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Czuch: One word on why the buildings had to come down: "Shock and Awe"

This phrase, incidentally, comes from the Romans.

1. Mars 2009, 20:14:50

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(V): You're doing yeoman service while I sleep. Just got up to peek.

A good book on Dresden is Vonnegut's "Slaughterhouse Five." He was there, a prisoner of war. We also firebombed cities in Japan before dropping the big ones.

"Remember, remember, the 11th of September...."

1. Mars 2009, 20:03:19

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Czuch:

1. Mars 2009, 20:01:27

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Artful Dodger: Sheeple.... (and no Tuesday its not anything to do with females)

1. Mars 2009, 20:00:35

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Czuch:Totally. I like the sheep touch in the photo. A fitting statement.

1. Mars 2009, 19:56:35

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Artful Dodger: GW is not the only one rolling over in his grave.... millions of our vets are too

1. Mars 2009, 19:54:19

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Czuch:

Check this out:

1. Mars 2009, 19:52:02

Hey, I have a plan..... we dont like dealing with the idiots in Iran.... lets send a nuke into the heartland of the US, kill millions of people, then show some fake evidence that iran did it!!! Yeah, yeah, thats the ticket.... then we can blow the living crap out of Iran, and have the blessing of the whole world behind us, maybe even get someone else to do it for us! Brilliant!!

1. Mars 2009, 19:48:03

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Czuch: and my point is that the US government did not have to use such an elaborate scheme to promote the fear and anger they needed to help implement more of their imperialistic urges...

really, just blow up one WTC, and blame some terror group from the middle east, that would have accomplished the same results, without near the risk of being caught at it as what they supposedly got away with

1. Mars 2009, 19:44:13

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(V): No, your original point was that it was not needed except to promote more fear and terror....but not really necessary to win a war.

1. Mars 2009, 19:42:06

tyyy

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Artful Dodger: Thats my fault

1. Mars 2009, 19:41:58

Mort

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Artful Dodger: Nope, I was sticking to the point, just using examples. Everyone else started going off on one.

1. Mars 2009, 19:40:50

Mort

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Charles Martel: Did I say evil? I said a mistake, not needed. An error down to humans thinking badly.

1. Mars 2009, 19:40:18

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(V):See what I mean? Because you couldn't stay with the point, we're now discussing the bombing of Dresden!

1. Mars 2009, 19:39:04

tyyy

So maybe Dresden was not a good example of pure USA evil

1. Mars 2009, 19:38:17

Mort

Sujet: Re: maybe because I've different perspectives being British and as Czuch keeps saying "a liberal" then to a repub. To me it's clear, not a dance.

Artful Dodger: I did.

1. Mars 2009, 19:37:32

Mort

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Charles Martel: I'm not sure.... but it had to be guarded for a while as much hatred in the forms of graffiti was sprayed on the statue.

Some modern day people consider him a war criminal due to his policies.

1. Mars 2009, 19:36:55

Sujet: Re:It's like when the USA bombed Dresden (sp) with fire bombs, it was not necessary but they did it.

(V): Maybe it wasn't Bush

Well according to Usurper, it was not just Bush but most of the government and now including Obama, and how many more that are backing it and not one leak yet?

1. Mars 2009, 19:35:52

Sujet: maybe because I've different perspectives being British and as Czuch keeps saying "a liberal" then to a repub. To me it's clear, not a dance.

(V):If it's clear, it should be simple for you to clarify and explain.

1. Mars 2009, 19:35:28

Mort

Sujet: Re:It's like when the USA bombed Dresden (sp) with fire bombs, it was not necessary but they did it.

Charles Martel: I know loads were used.... including 1000 bomber raids.

But from what I have read it looks like a lack of intelligence or the giving of such to Harris was a significant point. As he had not the clearance to know about ULTRA.

1. Mars 2009, 19:34:54

tyyy