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Sujet: Re: Well any of our so called "shady" actions have nothing to do with our economics directly..
Czuch: and we pronounce it "sarkee" I also have friends that have a chinese restaurant, I rang them and asked (they are chinese) and they pronounce it the same.... but I guess if you have a plum in your mouth you would pronounce it "saw-kee" kinda like being a snob.
Sujet: Re:When people are born into poverty and hopelessness, and their government does nothing to improve this situation, these are the people who end up resenting and hating and who get recruited into blowing themselves up
Pedro Martínez: I agree with you....I was talking about something quite remote from what Jules was trying to change the subject to.......
Murder in the suburbs/schools, not children bullying, but I will stop now because he cant see past the end of his own street. ...........subject closed............
Sujet: Re:come on..most don't have fathers in the house and the mothers have children by different men
(V): ***Just in your case I would imagine you'd have to go through alot of hoo haa to get it sorted and lose money in the process.***
no hoo haa to go through here....if something is broken I get the proper person to fix it and I PAY FOR IT.....I don't live under priveledged, I own my spot on this earth.
Sujet: Re:come on..most don't have fathers in the house and the mothers have children by different men
TheCrazyPuppy: and yes.......I remember you saying that you thought you and Jules lived in a different country.....perhaps he is one of the idle rich and doesn't have to worry about things.........NOT......he knows what it is like to live in an under priveledged (sp) area, having admitted they are still trying to clean his currently living area up.....
as I said down the board.....there are none so blind as those that cannot see.
Sujet: but you havnt a clue what is going on in mine
TheCrazyPuppy: yes he does LOL....because in the past if Jules has said something it is gods honest truth...
and I agree with you that drugs, guns and knives are part of everyday living.....there is no use hiding under a rock and pretending it doesn't happen which is what I believe him to be doing.......turning a blind eye as such
Sujet: Re:come on..most don't have fathers in the house and the mothers have children by different men
(V): ***I mean.. over here in the UK before the gun rules changed, if someone wanted to own a gun they had to be approved, and also the storage at home had strict rules.... eg one locked secured box for the gun(s) and another for the ammo and firing mechanism***
Well all of USA will have to go to England then seeing as it is so good over there........ Stop the kids getting hold of guns and knives......yeah right, these "kids" you are talking about are young adults and they do have minds of their own.
I wished We all lived in such perfect places as you appear to do....is there nothing wrong with the UK? your opinions are always "UK is best" when we all know that your living conditions are no better than anywhere else. Your rates of crime are just as bad and in some cases even worse than other countries.
***And as for the subject.. As normal with any subject, people digress. I thought you would have gathered that by now!!*** I understand people digress but YOU are an expert at changing the subject.
My god....you have no idea what I'm talking about here......no bullying would be great except the kids at the school I'm talking about carry guns and knives...if they only bullied it would be great.
I dont agree with bullying either but kids should learn to stand up for themselves, by saying just the right thing in the right place......the power of the word is great.
Im talking murder not bullying..........stick to the subject
Sujet: Re:come on..most don't have fathers in the house and the mothers have children by different men
GTCharlie: yes there must be some way to get your children away from the hate/murder/ tactics that are being used in the High School I was speaking of.
As one of the teachers said, I think she was an english teacher, "It just isn't cool to be top of the class" some of those kids had more brains than any of us on here but were reluctant to use them because of the terrorising they would get from their "friends"
GTCharlie....it is the old story....there are none so deaf than those that will NOT hear...
Artful Dodger: Thank you for your information and comments. I wanted to hear from someone that had ACTUAL experience in the schooling field, and not from someone that was just guessing.
The doco that I watched was horrific and parents didn't know if their kids were going to survive the day at school or not.
We are very lucky here that we dont have the "gang mentality" that other countries appear to have AS YET.
I have just finished watching a horrific doco about "Walter Cohen High" in New Orleans.....why would parents sent their kids to a school like that where they dont have any guarantee that they will even live out the day?
Is this a true representation of school life in America?
Czuch: we get our first $9828 tax free......I dont have the exact tables in front of me....but if you earn $1000 per week your taxation is only about $190 per week taxes.
I can get a copy if you wish....I dont really have a lot to do with taxation as such so cant really comment on australian taxes.
But obviously (v) knows it all when it comes to UK taxes so let him give you exact figures on income and taxes on specific figures :)
Czuch: the reports Ive read put him as a homeless alcoholic...(V) says he was going home, so I guess he could be going home to the Homeless shelter.....god who would know... lol
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Sujet: Re:The english are world reknown for their "want" to demonstrate at the drop of a hat.....they even travel in large groups to football matches both home and overseas.
(V): smart ----. I used "Ian Tomlinson" with quotes.
There is no use asking you questions.
WHERE DID YOU GET THE IDEA HE WAS GOING HOME TO WATCH FOOTBALL.............so he was a Millwall fan.....how did you know he was going home to watch footy?
(V): you have misinterpreted again.....I wasn't querying the "going home", I was asking you how did you know he was going to be watching football?
Each report I have read (english reports) have said he was a chronic alco and living in a homeless shelter....if your press can't report correctly, not my problem.
Yes I have read he was a newspaper seller....over here young boys of about 12-16 years old sell newspapers .....was he working in a shop? or standing on a street corner?
Your report says he was confronted by lines of riot police....to me (looking at the vid) he actually walked into them. He appeared to be nowhere near the main group of demonstrators.
The english are world reknown for their "want" to demonstrate at the drop of a hat.....they even travel in large groups to football matches both home and overseas.
(V): can I ask how did you know he was going home to watch the football? I havn't seen that written anywhere or is it just supposition?
He was living in a homeless shelter and was a chronic alcoholic so that would account for the staggering walk wouldn't it...I mean it was after work and he probably had a couple...again supposition.
I must also say that it did look like an unprovoked attack, although why did the cameraman take his filming from the main crowd and pan around onto this poor fellow.....was there some indication of an impending skuffle?
Snoopy: it appears he was hit on the leg with a baton and then was pushed by the same officer....Ian Tomlinson tried to talk to police and then got up and walked away only to collapse further down the street where he subsequently died.
Artful Dodger: one of the news reports say he was hit with a baton before he was shoved....if that was the case what did the damage? I agree he shouldnt have been shoved.
as Jules said there was ONLY 122 arrests LOL....rather minor really