Tuesday: that's laughable. She was in highschool.

rod03801: The strategy is to put out the racist charge enough and hope it sticks.

Artful Dodger: of course. It's how many of them operate

rod03801: I don't think it's been happening on this board but it clearly does "out there." I posted a while back that race would be used by the left to vilify and marginalize the opposition. I could easily post many examples of this very thing happening from the left.

Though, I would add, I'm not sure I've seen too much of that on this board. Which I think is an important thing to point out. I stand to be corrected, though.

Artful Dodger: I have to agree. It seems that ever since Obama has entered the picture it's constantly the democrat/libs who are accusing anyone who doesn't agree with something the anointed one does, is racist. It's weak.

Tuesday: examples please

Tuesday: Wanna bet? Tell you what. YOu come up with examples of those on the right telling people how to eat etc and show examples of the Right using the race card and I'll do the same for the Left. we'll compare

I'll win

(V): UK Obesity Statistics

Trends in Overweight and Obesity

About 46% of men in England and 32% of women are overweight (a body mass index of 25-30 kg/m2), and an additional 17% of men and 21% of women are obese (a body mass index of more than 30 kg/m2 ).

Overweight and obesity increase with age. About 28% of men and 27% of women aged 16-24 are overweight or obese but 76% of men and 68% of women aged 55-64 are overweight or obese.

Overweight and obesity are increasing. The percentage of adults who are obese has roughly doubled since the mid-1980's.

V: "Aye"

aye? what are you, a pirate now?

Artful Dodger: ......... Aye.. I can see it now. Rolling back years to' days of ketchup being a vegetable.

Quite honestly with the obesity level in the USA... a little education on eating well might be a jolly good idea. One point from history on what we eat recently was looking at how habits have reversed.

... The rich use to eat meat and junk, get fat and die, while the poor ate semi vegi and seasonable -- a diet now the rich eat and live more healthily.

Soon.. it'll be coca cola time with Santa in the company colours

Tuesday: Exactly. Those on the left telling people how to eat and it's also the left that is currently playing the race card over and over again.

Bwild: I saw man vs food last night.. that as standard restaurants can serve such as foot long hot dogs is mad!!

Being fat I guess Michael Moore knows some of the pitfalls.

Artful Dodger: I'm guessing he can spell"eathing"!!

does he know how to spell obese?

Tuesday: Why don't you just bookmark it?

The trouble with the right neo's that they go crying "unfair" every time someone points out they are not telling the truth.

Until the right neo's and the Tea party supporters start being honest then their claims the left are lying all the time is about as valid as a nine bob note.

Michael Moore: McDonald's at Ground Zero Killed More People Than 9/11 Hijackers
from NewsBusters.org - Exposing Liberal Media Bias by Noel Sheppard

Schlockumentary film producer Michael Moore on Friday said the McDonald's that's two blocks from Ground Zero killed more people than the nineteen hijackers involved in the 9/11 attacks.

Don't you love it when folks that are so overweight they're probably considered obese point fingers at others for their poor eating habits?

Honestly, does this look like a man that should be making McDonald's jokes:

http://media.eyeblast.org/newsbusters/static/2010/09/Moore.jpg

Michael, people who live in pants the size of tents shouldn't throw Big Macs!

DoJ investigates itself

<span>Clarice Feldman




Reviewing
the Department's handling of the Black Panther case and the news that
the IG is looking into the work of the Civil Rights Division, Jennifer
Rubin, writing in the Weekly Standard concludes:

[D]espite
the Obama team's best efforts to stonewall and the mainstream media's
indifference to an abuse of power in a Democratic administration, the
notion that the New Black Panther party case is "no big deal" is
crumbling. We know that a high ranking political appointee presented
misleading testimony under oath and that multiple witnesses would
testify to the Obama administration's hostility to the equal enforcement
of our civil rights laws. Now an internal investigation is exploring
those issues. In a Republican administration that would be front-page
news.

Many believe that a bipartisan majority would approve the
across-the-board approach today if Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid (D, NV) would permit a vote.  It ought to come quickly,
before the November elections, so voters will know where everyone
stands.  And our economy could get some much-needed good news.


But

we won't see this happen because the lying libs want to create a crisis and blame it on the Conservatives.  Why?  They want votes.  That's their plan.  They are going to lose big in November so they want to minimize losses.  And they don't care that you will get hurt in the process.

President
John F. Kennedy in 1962 called for “across-the-board top to bottom cut
in both corporate and personal income taxes” to end a recession. It passed and it worked.  The YouTube video of JFK’s speech is worth watching.

But the lying left will spin away from this one anyway:

The
top 10 percent of earners already pay 71 percent of federal income
taxes; the top 1 percent of earners carry 40 percent of the burden.
If anyone isn’t bearing their fair share, it’s certainly not them. 
Trying to make the wealthy bear an even larger burden than they do now
will hurt the entire economy.

Like it or not, those who can spend more freely provide a wealth of jobs
for everyone else.  Punishing them ends up punishing blue-collar
people.  The classic example was the 1990 luxury tax imposed on jewelry,
yachts, private planes and more.  Congress repealed it after thousands
of layoffs occurred in those industries and the added unemployment costs
exceeded the luxury tax revenue.

Obama wants to bring down the rich (those that create jobs) simply because it can make him look good.  He knows this will hurt the economy and will stop job creation in its tracks.  But he doesn't care.  Obama's plan is simple:  Expand the power of the Federal government and micro manage all aspects of American life.  Liberals are lemmings.  They just follow him off the cliff because that's what lemmings do.  

Obama’s selective approach hurts the very group that creates the jobs we
need; the entrepreneurs who are holding back from expanding and
creating jobs due to Obama’s impending higher taxes and heavier
regulations; the 5 per cent who are credited with 37 per cent of
consumer spending.  As
The Wall Street Journal reports, “According to new research from
Moody’s Analytics, the top 5% of Americans by income account for 37% of
all consumer outlays.”

The problem with the "fear monger" defense the liberals use is that it distorts the truth. While there is ZERO evidence that the Tea Party is racist (actually the evidence is to the contrary, they are very inclusive) the liberals put out the false charge off racism. Why? To create fear and garner votes. It's all about votes to the lying left. They will do anything to get votes. And lying to the people is at the top of their list.

Case in point: Obama. He's nothing but a liar. He campaigned on centrist values. But he governs hard left. He promised transparency. But he makes deals behind closed doors. He promised that passage of Obama Care would NOT cause a rise in health care premiums. On average they have gone up over a thousand dollars a year. He said he would not tax people to pay for Obama Care. But that's exactly what he is NOW saying he will do. There is nothing good about that man as president and the sooner he is neutered, the better for all of us. Where's Jimmy Carter when we need him?

Tuesday: Nahhh It's interesting to see what rubbish people will believe without question!!

Bernice: No.. I'm not nit picking.. I'm trying to fair and reasonably accurate.

As to $420k .. no, the ones getting the jobs will not get that much. You having done bookkeeping should have a basic idea of the in's and out's of how a business works.. If you've done business accounts that is.

(V): that would make you want to go to work, wouldn't it?

Not a bad wage....

The chief of the Commonwealth Bank here in Aus, is now being paid 16 Million Dollars per year....no one is worth that.

DPW has received $70.65 million and created or retained 45.46 jobs, though they are expected to create 238 jobs overall (the fraction of a job created or retained correlates to the number of actual hours works). LADOT has been awarded $40.8 million and created or retained 9 jobs, though they are expected to create 26 jobs overall. Overall, the Departments have received $111 million in federal stimulus funds out of the $594 million the City has been awarded so far and created or retained 54.46 jobs.

“I’m disappointed that we’ve only created or retained 55 jobs after receiving $111 million in ARRA funds. With our local unemployment rate over 12% we need to do a better job cutting the red tape and putting Angelenos back to work,” said City Controller Greuel. “While it doesn’t appear that any of the ARRA funds were misspent, the City needs to do a better job expediting the process and creating jobs. We’re going to continue to audit how these funds are spent, to ensure that they are expended quickly and correctly. I’m pleased that since our auditors completed their field work, the Departments have begun to implement the changes we identified to help get this money out the door faster.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/16/great-news-111-million-in-stimulus-money-to-l-a-produces-54-jobs/

So that's 264 jobs created out of $111 million.. which works out at $420K per job.

Bernice: I did.. you didn't.

Politics (Artful Dodger, 2010-09-18 02:07:12)

This post does not include the "so far"

The Col: come on! Bipartisan to democrats is vote our way. This is EXACTLY what Pelosi told the Republicans.

Bill Maher: Obama Would Be A Better President 'If He Was Fully Black'
from NewsBusters.org - Exposing Liberal Media Bias by Noel Sheppard

Bill Maher on Friday said that Barack Obama's problem is that he's only half black.

He'd be a better president "if he was fully black."

In the season premiere of "Real Time," while chatting with former Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich, the host said, "Isn't Obama's big problem is that he does everything half-assed? Maybe it's because he's only half black."

Maher continued, "If he was fully black, I'm telling you, he would be a better president."

As if that wasn't enough, "There's a white man in him holding him back because everything is half-assed"

What's really hysterical about this is earlier in the program, Maher accused members of the Tea Party of being racist.

I guess it isn't racist to say there's a white man inside the president holding him back.

On the other hand, just imagine the uproar if Maher said Obama's problem is that he was half white and that "there's a [black] man in him holding him back because everything is half-assed."

It seems a metaphysical certitude the panelists and his audience wouldn't have laughed at that, nor would HBO's management.

In fact, Maher might be looking for a job tomorrow for saying something like that.

Interesting double standard we have today, isn't it?

Artful Dodger: I think in a nutshell you have provided a microcosm of why there is so little bipartisan work accomplished in Washington.There is nothing to be gained by working my lil stubby fingers to the bone trying to find a common ground,so why bother

The Col: And that is precisely the problem with liberal thinkers such as yourself. One would think that with such huge amounts of money, there would be more to start. That's barely a medium size business. And what will liberals like you say when that number stays under a hundred? That's still a million dollars of tax money for only one job.

Historically, lower taxes, smaller government, responsible spending, and a tighter reign on entitlement payments meant more jobs. Obamacare has killed more jobs than the stimulus will create. And Obama is so arrogant that he's talking about spending more? The nation is against him and he ignores it all. He's incompetent and so are your liberal heros that are about to find themselves on the unemployment line.

An unemployed worker can make more on unemployment than they can at an entry level job. So why work? This is absolutely the case. It's why extending unemployment benefits was a bad idea. Unemployed workers have admitted that they won't take a job if they can make more money on unemployment. That's BS. Get two jobs then. And that's exactly what they'd do if they didn't have unemployment to cuddle them through.

It won't matter. There is a landslide coming and Obama will be a lame duck way before his time.

Artful Dodger: . Actually, to be precise, the money produced 54.46 jobs SO FAR

There’ll be a party come this November

Where we’re gonna set things straight

All good people gonna gather ‘round

Gonna show what made this country great

We’ll run off the schemers and back-room dealers

So the Red, White and Blue will prevail

When we’re holding the hammer

When we’re holding the hammer

When we’re holding the hammer

Every one of them looks like a nail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfH46DTAkxo&feature=player_embedded

holdingahammer.com

"The Hammer Falls November 2, 2010."